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So at the middle post of the real year, the ever-changing scenarios that are closers continue to fire on.  This week I am going to speculate on some popular names that have been bantered about in trade rumors so far and add in some of my own because that’s what hippies do, we give. This week marks the return of Chris Perez and Rafael Betancourt, soon to displace Rex and Vinnie, so sad. It was so much more fun writing their names than the dog smokers and the pride of Isaac Newton College (True statement — go look it up). Now both of these guys may be coming up later in my trade speculator, because I think they are a good mix of hot garbage and tradeable commodity.  Sorta like a great combo of mayonnaise and milk…yum. This year I have a gut feeling there will be a glut of trades involving current teams’ closers making the waiver wire a cavalcade of shenanigans. If nothing else, it leads to some good conversation, some yelling and maybe some new-un-found friendships.  So shall we get on with the speculating..I think we shall.

Huston Street – Makes entirely way too much money for a small market team to sustain, though the Padres are still in a race, only being 6 games out of the wild card. One bad stretch and it’s a punt on 2nd down.  Dale Thayer or a promotion of the ice devouring sex tornado know as Kevin Quackenbush will be save mongers in the city with all the seamen. Trade prediction: Texas

Chris Perez – I hate this guy.  If you read my stuff you know this already.  If you don’t well thanks for stopping by today then. Perez is going to be 3rd year arbitration eligible next year and is more trouble than he is worth. Only problem is I think he becomes a set-up piece for a contender. Trade Prediction: Atlanta

Bobby Parnell – I think the Mets cash in on Parnell having a great year, and take a nice offensive piece back in return.  The Metropolitans have a closer in waiting, or so they think, in Jack Leathersich.  If you have a minute go check out his numbers.  Parnell will most likely go and split duties with a team that has a committee closer. Trade Prediction: Boston

Jonathan Papelbon – Now, the Phils aren’t in complete punt mode yet and they have some fairly big names that could be had this trade deadline (Utley, Young, Lee). The Phils need to get younger, and fast. Trading the top closer available, IMO, is the way they should do it.  Papelbon is set to make 12 million next year and with their TV contract coming to end, the Phillies are expecting a Dodger-type TV deal. Lot’s of zeroes to start over in 2 years. Trade prediction: Tigers

Jose Veras – The Astros’ Jeff Luhnow is a volume trader and is building a strong farm system based mostly off of trades.  This year figures to be more of the same.  Veras is a veteran arm and will grasp onto any role, because he has had them all before.  Will be a nice add on to a bullpen that has been killed by injury or in desperate need of a veteran RH. Trade prediction: San Francisco

Kevin Gregg – The other more pigmently challenged KG has gone from the street to valuable top 20 closer.  Some say he draws his strength from his glasses; others say from a mysterious vegetable drink he calls “The Crush.” Either way he is going to make the Cubs look great by getting a fairly decent prospect back, only problem is he won’t be closing where he is heading.  Trade Prediction: Orioles

Francisco Rodriguez – Hopefully he goes somewhere where domestic violence is welcomed.  He got his milestone in Mille-walk-a, and should net them something usable for the future, nothing great. I am preemptively ruining where he is going by saying, has anyone noticed how awkward Cincy’s bullpen looks without a healthy Broxton or Marshall?  Well now you know.  Trade prediction: Cincinnati

Steve Cishek - He might be traded for a new fish montage for the promenade that Miami will be building.  Playing for a losing team never helps motivate anyone, and it hasn’t helped him in the least.  Could be a great late inning piece, but I don’t see him closing unless an injury occurs to the team acquiring him.  Is going to be a popular name for teams that lose out on Street and Papelbon.  Trade prediction: Toronto

60 Responses

  1. Ron says:
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    Since you seem to have the pule on closers….

    1) Would I be crazy to trade Dexter Fowler to get Holland or Perkins?

    2) Who do you prefer of those two closers?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Ron: Perkins twice

    • stumanji says:
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      @Ron: I wouldn’t trade Fowler for a closer.

  2. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    I heard russell is also on cubs block. Who closes if both get moved?

    Who closes in houston and miami if the closers get moved?

    Puffing on some nice chem dog today…here’s to you smoke dog

    • xtremehulk says:
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      @Jack Full of Hate:

      I also happen to own about half the shmoes on this list and was wondering the same thing!

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Jack Full of Hate: Russell prolly gets moved first. Keep an eye on Frank Bautista in minors now showing good stuff for closing capabilities.

      Houston it will most likely be Ambriz or josh Fields as none of their kids are ready yet.

      Miami its going to be a committee thing with Dunn and Aj ramos most likely.

      Lastly. Nice. Thanks for the invite. I got five on it.

  3. DrEasy says:
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    I don’t see Cishek going to Toronto. If anything, the Jays have a surplus of bullpen arms.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @DrEasy: I don’t know about surplus but they have a lot Guys going to set career highs in innings and appearances that’s worrisome when in a playoff push. Loup, Delabar and Cecil are nice, and when Santos err gts going yea thy will be nicer. I think they need a decent piece in the back end whether it be Cishek or someone else.

  4. Jay

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    Its Oliver Perez after last night, yeah?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @jaywrong: it has to be everyone else has puked on the chances.

  5. GT says:
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    Jack Leathersich is 0 for 55 at the plate. SMH

    For real though, this guy is going to produce some tantalizing Razzball nicknamery.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @GT: the gimp is my nickname for him already

  6. The Dredd Pirate says:
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    When would you suggest to maybe start stashing some of these guys I’m in desperate need of some SAGNOF! plus my league is ridiculous about closers.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @The Dredd Pirate: if big rosters now, if smaller than wait til injury or lack of decent streamer fill in, hope to catch lightning in a bottle. Deadline is coming up

      • The Dredd Pirate says:
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        @Smokey:
        Well I already had ratio guys that I can switch them out for my RP are
        Pestano
        Craine
        Axford
        Rosenthal

        Plus a dropable porcello and possibly wheeler after his next start.
        And do you have a ranking for most likely to get traded or best replacement?

        • Smokey

          Smokey says:
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          @The Dredd Pirate: id hold who you have as they are helping you in ERA and WHIP, Porcello is droppable for me right now so if any suitable guys are available grab away. No order, tough to sayas teams value guys more than others in real life.

  7. The Dredd Pirate says:
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    When would you suggest to maybe start stashing some of these guys I’m in desperate need of some SAGNOF! plus my league is ridiculous about closers.

  8. Goose says:
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    Don’t forget about Wilhelmsen – Bartender could have some value, and looks he may be righting the ship just in time to get dealt.

    Also, I’m calling Street to the Braves – with Beachy coming back, doesn’t a Street for Maholm trade just make too much sense for both sides? Malholm is like the dream Hodgepadre!

    And someone above asked about Cubs post-Gregg/Russell. Just read something about this guy Blake Parker – done well so far since he’s been in the bigs, looks he might become more prominent with Marmol now gone. Someone to keep an eye on.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Goose: Don’t think they would trade him yet due to him still being cheap for at least next year.

      Streetto the ATL makes some sense I could see it, they are def looking for RP help and someone with alot of experience is what I am reading they are looking for

      I like Parker, he profiles as more of a set-up guy long term, but the Cubs will try anyone and see who sticks

  9. Nate says:
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    what’s your take on Grili/Mel with Grili not getting the save call last night?

    Think Wilhelmsen get his job back in Seatle, or do they go with a committee ROS?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Nate: Grilli is safe, just overworked. Tom should factor in later I mean Oliver can’t last forever as a closer option….can he?

  10. Thoughts on Axford apparently having his shizz back in order & possibly reclaiming his roll after K Rod’s 300th?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @zombie: i have preached about Axford too much, but I don’t see the Brewers killing his value by having him be the 7-8th inning guy

  11. Rags says:
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    Mets fan and Parnell owner here, so I have my own biases, but I’d be surprised if the Mets traded Bobby. He’s well-liked and cheap for the team, as well as fairly well proven at this point. I don’t think other teams are going to be willing to offer enough to pry him from the Mets.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Rags: Cheap for this year, 2nd year arb next year and looking at a raise into the 4-5 mil range. If someone offers the Mets a OF nice prospect OF bat and a lower level P they would be dumb nit to jump on it. They have so many power arms in the minors to replace him.

  12. Brian Cashman says:
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    I never target this guy during drafts, obviously.. I don’t think anyone has ever said, “yeahhh, I really want Chris Perez this year.” But I’ve ended up with this guy every year for the past 3 years as one of my last draft picks for $1. Pretty decent for a guy with job security who’s positively perceived by his team.. It’s another story though for how Indians fans and the fantasy community sees him. But… the Indians are in the playoff hunt and I just don’t see them trading their “All-star” closer.

    Chris Perez might not be the best closer in the world, but SAGNOF yo.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Brian Cashman: Oh absolutely, He closes plain and simple. Indians are in a playoff hunt right now, Talk to me in 3 weeks when that stout pitching staff of Masterson, Kluber and Ubaldo and their team SP ERA in the mid 4′s comes back down to earth. I would love for the tribe to get in the race I just don’t see it.

  13. Men-in-Cleats says:
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    I’ve been trying to get a handle on whom the most likely candidates to end up getting a closing gig in the next month but not coming up with much. Tempted to stash Crain for my ratios and hope he ends up in Detroit and am considering grabbing some guys like possibly Bastardo, Dunn, Gregorson or Thayer, etc. that might get closer roles. Got lucky last year with guys like Holland, Perkins, Frieri at around this time last year.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Men-in-Cleats: Def stash Crain. Bastardo is the lone sole in teh Philly BP that I can see getting anything save related if Paps gets traded.

  14. Jon says:
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    Would you own Gregerson, Thayer, McGee or Blake Parker over Tazawa?

    If it makes any difference, I own Street

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Jon: I would order them how you have them, I think Gregerson might get traded also this month. I would hold Tazawa fr now until you start hearing more significant whispers about trades around AS break.

  15. Barker says:
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    12 team money league trade

    I give reyes and jennings i get kinsler and greinke

    I have segura at short and i am rocking rendon and kelly johnson at second base
    My starters are moore latos maholm kluber liriano lyles jacob turner dl halladay (recently picked up not drafted)

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Barker: Id want the Reyes side personally, maybe try a different combo as I think you can do better

  16. evilsquirrel says:
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    10 Keeper league. Injuries have killed me after finishing 3rd last year. Pretty much out of playoff contention already. Starting to think about next year(and beyond). Been offered R.Braun(9th round) and B.Lawrie(10th) for N.Cruz(11th) and Donaldson(20th).

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @evilsquirrel: 2 steroid linked guys and the better player is coming to you.

  17. Red says:
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    Ugh, I own 5 of those guys. Currently 4th in saves. Any general advice?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Red: Prey the ones that you own that get traded still garner some saves if they get traded, this is purely/mostly speculation so don’t fret yet.

  18. Wake Up says:
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    Who is the closer right now in MIL and SEA?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Wake Up: ollie Perez and K-Rod with a dash of Henderson

  19. Chris says:
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    Any keeper hitters to target? You had some great posts on that a month or so ago…
    Thoughts?

    • Chris says:
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      @Chris: I forgot the word “new” or “speculative”… Thank you

  20. Sniff Test says:
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    Is Henry Rodriguez going to see saves once all the relievers are gone in Chicago? He could be Marmol Jr. Also, who will be closing Aaron Hernandez’s butt hole in prison?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Sniff Test: maybe. The Cibs bp is a sea of endlessness. Haha.

  21. GB says:
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    No chance the Orioles trade for Gregg…he was a steaming pile of you know what there before. For sure one of the other names though.

  22. SteveNZ says:
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    Hey Smokey – what’s your take on Neal Cotts? Seems to be getting Hold opps behind Scheppers (who I also own), good Ks and ratios and has won a few games…

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @SteveNZ: I like him. Good story to get back to majors. Hides ball well and just dominates lefties.

  23. los locos says:
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    I have Holland, Romo and Jansen and someone just dropped Garza, who should I drop or should I just hold?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @los locos: do you need a sp more than a rp. Is it toto or h2h

  24. Clint says:
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    Forgive me as this is the first season I’ve stumbled upon the awesomeness of Razzball’s advice but as the deadline gets closer, do you do some kind of ranking of the potential new closers that will come out of the deadline deals Smokey? I’ve already been eyeing guys like James Russell, Pestano, and Rondon (assuming the El Tigres don’t get Pap smeared & bring him up) vs hanging onto a guy like Brothers, just wondering when to pull the trigger and on whom.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Clint: Pestano is a great stash. No rankings it’s sorta like dominoes. When one goes they all start to go

  25. Pefacommish says:
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    Who closes for the Mets if they trade Parnell?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Pefacommish: Lyon, leathersich

  26. JDawg says:
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    If Veras is traded, who is the speculative add? Cisnero?? Thanks Ashy Larry, I mean Smokey.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @JDawg: cisnero is in the convo. Ambriz and Josh Fields could get a shot also

  27. John Olerud says:
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    can only pick up 1

    Ollie Perez or K-Rod

    For the record, I hate both as a Mets fan…bring back Armando Benitez

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @John Olerud: k rod. Ollie isnt the answer for the Mariners let alone a fantasy roster.

  28. Jacks says:
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    There’s always talk of trading in situ closers around the stove mid-season, but it rarely happens, correct? How many got shipped last year mid-season? I believe only one, Broxton, despite the incessant speculation. And the year before?

    Be shocked if more than one of these gets exchanged.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Jacks: both guys i rode till mid july last year, myers/broxton. But i stashed Holland about 2 weeks before because of Razzball. it was nice.Drafting in a league early, picking Soria 2 days before his tommy john injury wasn’t. Also rode Cishek and Clippard last year.

  29. goodfold2 says:
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    addison reed on hot seat yet. got busted up yet again.

  30. 2 Cups 1 Braun says:
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    Is it time to lose Henderson for KRod? Seems like Henderson is working only the 8th and sucking ass at that.

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