Comments on: Closer Look http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/ Fantasy Baseball Advice Fri, 25 May 2012 10:44:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Pat http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97873 Pat Sat, 09 Jan 2010 04:28:20 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97873 Grey, I don't get how Andrew Bailey is so high on the list. Specifically, I think Brian Wilson deserves to be rated above the ROY. Wilson isn't perfect, but he's got a great k-rate, a fo-hawk, and some how parties with celebrities in Beverly Hills! Grey,
I don’t get how Andrew Bailey is so high on the list. Specifically, I think Brian Wilson deserves to be rated above the ROY. Wilson isn’t perfect, but he’s got a great k-rate, a fo-hawk, and some how parties with celebrities in Beverly Hills!

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97734 Grey Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:18:46 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97734 @<a href="#comment-97729" rel="nofollow">DrEasy</a>: Hoffman was great last year, but I have a hard time believing in a 42 year old closer who can't throw over 85. Change or no change. Frasor added a split-finger fastball. @DrEasy: Hoffman was great last year, but I have a hard time believing in a 42 year old closer who can’t throw over 85. Change or no change.

Frasor added a split-finger fastball.

]]> By: big o http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97732 big o Fri, 08 Jan 2010 05:52:28 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97732 soria doesn't get enough saves to warrant being ranked 5th . soria doesn’t get enough saves to warrant being ranked 5th .

]]> By: DrEasy http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97730 DrEasy Fri, 08 Jan 2010 05:22:53 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97730 @<a href="#comment-97729" rel="nofollow">DrEasy</a>: In fact there were some rumors of a Frasor trade to the Cubs (he's from Chicago originally) a week or two ago. @DrEasy: In fact there were some rumors of a Frasor trade to the Cubs (he’s from Chicago originally) a week or two ago.

]]> By: DrEasy http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97729 DrEasy Fri, 08 Jan 2010 05:19:54 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97729 In your closer rankings you've always ranked Hoffman pretty low. Is there something I'm missing? I was very happy with him last year. Jason Frasor has become a much more effective pitcher since he's added a new pitch to his arsenal (can't remember if it was a slider or a change). He was a great waiver pick-up for me last year when Downs got hurt for a while. I guess there's just some uncertainy as to who the closer is for Toronto. Plus, with their crappy team this year who knows how many save opportunities they'll get anyway. He could also be trade bait if someone is desperate for a closer or reliever (and so would Downs, in fact). Wow, a Miranda July reference on a fantasy baseball blog? In your closer rankings you’ve always ranked Hoffman pretty low. Is there something I’m missing? I was very happy with him last year.

Jason Frasor has become a much more effective pitcher since he’s added a new pitch to his arsenal (can’t remember if it was a slider or a change). He was a great waiver pick-up for me last year when Downs got hurt for a while. I guess there’s just some uncertainy as to who the closer is for Toronto. Plus, with their crappy team this year who knows how many save opportunities they’ll get anyway. He could also be trade bait if someone is desperate for a closer or reliever (and so would Downs, in fact).

Wow, a Miranda July reference on a fantasy baseball blog?

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97728 Grey Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:10:26 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97728 @<a href="#comment-97727" rel="nofollow">sean</a>: Nah, SAGNOF makes it saves are saves are saves. Names don't really mean anything. If Coco's undervalued then he's fine. Or anyone getting saves. @sean: Nah, SAGNOF makes it saves are saves are saves. Names don’t really mean anything. If Coco’s undervalued then he’s fine. Or anyone getting saves.

]]> By: sean http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97727 sean Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:01:19 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97727 @<a href="#comment-97696" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: I just feel much better about forgetting about guys like Bell, who will be drafted early based on one good season, and focusing building my relief staff on guys like CoCo or Wilson who seem to do it every year. Is that just being a label whore in a SAGNOF world? @Grey: I just feel much better about forgetting about guys like Bell, who will be drafted early based on one good season, and focusing building my relief staff on guys like CoCo or Wilson who seem to do it every year. Is that just being a label whore in a SAGNOF world?

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97717 Grey Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:01:10 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97717 @<a href="#comment-97714" rel="nofollow">Doc</a>: That's dirty. @<a href="#comment-97715" rel="nofollow">quimmy</a>: Kemp 5 year, Upton 3. @<a href="#comment-97716" rel="nofollow">Mark</a>: They might end up there by February. @Doc: That’s dirty.

@quimmy: Kemp 5 year, Upton 3.

@Mark: They might end up there by February.

]]> By: Mark http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97716 Mark Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:56:21 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97716 Joel Zumaya will be hurt and Leo Nunez won't be good. Put them in the next tier over Grey! Joel Zumaya will be hurt and Leo Nunez won’t be good. Put them in the next tier over Grey!

]]> By: quimmy http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97715 quimmy Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:55:47 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97715 I have a decision to make in my keeper league that I am sure most would be envious of. If you could lock up one player for a 5yr contract and the other for a 3yr who would get the 5yr between JUP or Kemp? I have a decision to make in my keeper league that I am sure most would be envious of. If you could lock up one player for a 5yr contract and the other for a 3yr who would get the 5yr between JUP or Kemp?

]]> By: Doc http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97714 Doc Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:49:48 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97714 @<a href="#comment-97712" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: ))(( @Grey: ))((

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97712 Grey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:41:41 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97712 @<a href="#comment-97711" rel="nofollow">Doc</a>: Like Miranda July? @Doc: Like Miranda July?

]]> By: Doc http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97711 Doc Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:39:23 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97711 @<a href="#comment-97705" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: It's avant-garde @Grey: It’s avant-garde

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97710 Grey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:37:32 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97710 @<a href="#comment-97708" rel="nofollow">Eddy</a>: I think that's just because people have no idea that he's set to be the closer as of right now. Once the spring starts and people get hip to him, he'll be drafted. Valverde's in talks to go to Detroit too so that would kill Zumaya. @Eddy: I think that’s just because people have no idea that he’s set to be the closer as of right now. Once the spring starts and people get hip to him, he’ll be drafted. Valverde’s in talks to go to Detroit too so that would kill Zumaya.

]]> By: Eddy http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97708 Eddy Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:35:33 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97708 In your Zumaya post you said he'd be overdrafted, but believe it or not he has not been drafted ONCE in ANY of my mock drafts. I guess he'd been out so long people flat out forgot about him. Looks like I found my 20+ round closer! In your Zumaya post you said he’d be overdrafted, but believe it or not he has not been drafted ONCE in ANY of my mock drafts. I guess he’d been out so long people flat out forgot about him. Looks like I found my 20+ round closer!

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97705 Grey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:23:54 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97705 @<a href="#comment-97700" rel="nofollow">Doc</a>: That's probably very funny, but I don't get it. @Doc: That’s probably very funny, but I don’t get it.

]]> By: Doc http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97700 Doc Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:13:04 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97700 @<a href="#comment-97699" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: Yes, but they were disguised as fat coaches, Mangini-corns. @Grey: Yes, but they were disguised as fat coaches, Mangini-corns.

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97699 Grey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:02:06 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97699 @<a href="#comment-97698" rel="nofollow">Doc</a>: There were no donkeycorns over at Football.Razzball? @Doc: There were no donkeycorns over at Football.Razzball?

]]> By: Doc http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97698 Doc Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:58:52 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97698 I think this is the first time I actually read and registered what the hell a Donkey-Corn is. I want one! I think this is the first time I actually read and registered what the hell a Donkey-Corn is. I want one!

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97696 Grey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:57:32 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97696 @<a href="#comment-97695" rel="nofollow">sean</a>: Who do you see above them? Hoffman, Wagner and Fuentes? @sean: Who do you see above them? Hoffman, Wagner and Fuentes?

]]> By: sean http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97695 sean Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:53:30 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97695 @Grey: I'm a little concerned about the value being placed on closers with such a short track record, especially those toward the top of the donkey-corns (Bell, Bailey, Aardsma, Franklin, etc.). I guess your position is more like don't overpay for saves than it is don't pay for saves, but I'm still on the fence as to whether I could trust my team to a threesome or foursome like the one listed above... @Grey: I’m a little concerned about the value being placed on closers with such a short track record, especially those toward the top of the donkey-corns (Bell, Bailey, Aardsma, Franklin, etc.). I guess your position is more like don’t overpay for saves than it is don’t pay for saves, but I’m still on the fence as to whether I could trust my team to a threesome or foursome like the one listed above…

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97691 Grey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:36:33 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97691 @<a href="#comment-97689" rel="nofollow">Jo</a>: Probably won't be that late of a pick once he signs, assuming it's before spring training, which it should be. @Jo: Probably won’t be that late of a pick once he signs, assuming it’s before spring training, which it should be.

]]> By: Jo http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97689 Jo Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:30:50 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97689 @Phil @Cory: According to rotoworld Valverde currently has 4 offers on the table... he's bound to take 1 and be a pretty good late pick closer next season. @Phil @Cory: According to rotoworld Valverde currently has 4 offers on the table… he’s bound to take 1 and be a pretty good late pick closer next season.

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97687 Grey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:25:22 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97687 @<a href="#comment-97686" rel="nofollow">royce!</a>: Nice digression. @royce!: Nice digression.

]]> By: royce! http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97686 royce! Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:14:40 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97686 It saddens me that I will have to pass on Broxton, as he was one of the few highlights of my 2009 team. Oh well, he was insane at home (.40 ERA) but did a pretty good Lidge impersonation on the road (ERA over 5). My weekly team probably won and lost based on the Dodgers schedule. I think Bell can easily take his place on my roster. He's at least one of the few guys who could fit into his clothes. Wait, nevermind. Borxton's got at least 40 lbs on Bell. Bell in Broxton's clothes would look positively emo. But I digress... It saddens me that I will have to pass on Broxton, as he was one of the few highlights of my 2009 team. Oh well, he was insane at home (.40 ERA) but did a pretty good Lidge impersonation on the road (ERA over 5). My weekly team probably won and lost based on the Dodgers schedule.

I think Bell can easily take his place on my roster. He’s at least one of the few guys who could fit into his clothes. Wait, nevermind. Borxton’s got at least 40 lbs on Bell. Bell in Broxton’s clothes would look positively emo. But I digress…

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97682 Grey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:40:06 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97682 @<a href="#comment-97681" rel="nofollow">Charlie</a>: They're double fisting on Cust, huh? Weird move for them. It sends Fox into the outfield until Beane sees him play, then he moves all around the infield. It's not great, but he'll still get 400+ ABs. @Charlie: They’re double fisting on Cust, huh? Weird move for them. It sends Fox into the outfield until Beane sees him play, then he moves all around the infield. It’s not great, but he’ll still get 400+ ABs.

]]> By: Charlie http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97681 Charlie Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:37:50 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97681 Cust Kayin in Oakland for another year. What, if anything does this do to the Fox's playing time/position? Cust Kayin in Oakland for another year. What, if anything does this do to the Fox’s playing time/position?

]]> By: Grey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97680 Grey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:35:53 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97680 @<a href="#comment-97670" rel="nofollow">Phil</a>: @<a href="#comment-97676" rel="nofollow">Corey</a>: Valverde turned down the Astros' offer. He's unsigned. @<a href="#comment-97672" rel="nofollow">Simply Fred</a>: Doesn't mean that at all. You listed Thornton so I didn't list him too. @Phil: @Corey: Valverde turned down the Astros’ offer. He’s unsigned.

@Simply Fred: Doesn’t mean that at all. You listed Thornton so I didn’t list him too.

]]> By: Corey http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97676 Corey Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:13:19 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97676 Am I just missing Jose Valverde? Where is he? Am I just missing Jose Valverde? Where is he?

]]> By: Simply Fred http://razzball.com/closer-look-01-4-10/comment-page-1/#comment-97672 Simply Fred Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:03:04 +0000 http://razzball.com/?p=9192#comment-97672 @<a href="#comment-97668" rel="nofollow">Grey</a>: Does that mean you think Jenks will be relatively solid and Thornton unlikely to move up? @Grey: Does that mean you think Jenks will be relatively solid and Thornton unlikely to move up?

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