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Francisco Liriano went four innings and gave up seven runs against a team that absolutely kills lefties in Fenway.  Let’s run down his 3-year averages for the months of the season, starting with April: 6.93, 1.99, 1.51, 2.31, 1.13 and 4.36.  You think he might need some time to get going?  His April combined ERA for the last 3 years, not including this year, is almost 7.  His combined May through August ERAs are under 2. Are you kidding me? Heffin’ hey, trade for him! This might be the best buy you find right now.  Anyway, here’s what else I saw yesterday in fantasy baseball:

Kurt Suzuki – First HR of the season yesterday.  He hit one HR through the middle of June last year.  What is everyone doing at Yankee Stadium?  Is it the Macarena?  The Electric Slide?  No, it’s The Jetstream!

Justin Verlander – 5 IP, 7 ER.  It’ll get better, but it’s not going to get much better to make him a buy candidate.

Joe Saunders – 5 IP, 5 ER.  Take out the Liquid Paper; more corrections to come.

Andre Ethier – Hit his 5th HR yesterday.  Frankly, sometimes I’m wrong. (17% of the time!)  I had my doubts about whether he would produce this year, but he’s doing it.

Hunter Pence – 4th homer, 3rd steal in yesterday’s game.  Marching towards 25/15 and top 30 outfielder status.

Francisco Cordero – 6th save, 1.29 ERA. Member he was a mess in spring training?  Uh-huh.

Kevin Gregg – 1 IP, 1 ER, 6.43 ERA.  Member he was a mess in– Oh, wait.

Johnny Cueto – 7 IP, 0 ER. 2.55 ERA on the season.  In the preseason, I said I was higher on Cueto this year than Volquez.  I wasn’t joking.

Milton Bradley – 0-for-4, 3 Ks.  Batting .043 so far this season when he shows up healthy and it’s not raining.  Cubs fans were booing him yesterday like he was Bartman and a goat’s love child.

Willy Taveras – 0-for-2, batting .268.  Wait, he’s no longer batting .400?  Ah, dim the lights in Ted Williams’s freezer for one more year.

David Purcey – 5 1/3 IP, 3 ER. Still burping.

Omar Vizquel/Ian Kinsler/Andruw Jones – Is there anyone not batting over .400 on the Rangers?  Oh, Salty B. Davis.

Jair Jurrjens – 7 2/3 IP, 0 ER.  1.42 ERA on the year.  I really like Jar-Jar this year.  I don’t think his ERA stays anywhere near where it is, obviously.  But he can keep it around 3.75 with some Ks.

Adam Dunn – 0-for-4. Oh, well. .300’s in the rear view.

Scott Baker – 4 2/3 IP, 6 ER.  Someone’s having a bit of a problem with the long ball.  If you had to ask me if he’s going to rebound in May like CC last year, or if he’s going to become completely unusable like Gorzelanny.  I’d take Gorz and June as the under.  I think Baker’s headed for the Disgraceful List. You don’t give up 7 home runs in 8 and two-thirds and just suddenly say, “Hey, you know what?  I just realized I was supposed to be throwing the ball harder.  And in better locations.”

Brian Bannister – Maybe he just likes pitching in April.  Pumpkin’s ETA is one week.

Josh Fields – HR, 3-for-5, batting in the 2 hole.  If this sticks, and, with Ozzie, anything’s possible, this could boost Fields’s value a lot.

Carlos Villanueva – Back as the setup man.  Only he was setting up Todd Coffey.  The Baron, frequent commenter/guest poster, pegged Coffey as an out of nowhere closer that gets 30 saves this year as Hoffman continues to get injured.  Not as crazy as it sounds.

Chris Young – 7 IP, 6 baserunners, 0 ER.  I like him; you know that.  But it sure don’t hurt when there’s only one guy in the opposing starting lineup hitting .300.

John Danks – 7 IP, 1 ER.  I feel like this guy isn’t getting the respect he deserves.  So far I’ve mentioned him in two of three Fantasy Baseball Buy/Sells as a Buy.  I put him as a starter to target in the preseason.  What do I have to do?  Help me, help you.

John Maine – 5.2 IP, 5 ER.  Outdueled by Joel Pineiro.  I just vomited onto my wall and it reads, “Punt.”

B.J. Ryan – 1 IP, 3 ER. Downs wasn’t much better making this a save situation in the first place by giving up a run.

Rafael Soriano – Got the save yesterday.  It was a tied game and Cox brought in his lefty closer into a tight game to face a tough lefty.  Don’t need to read too much into it.  Soriano’s 2nd in line, we knew that already though.

LaTroy Hawkins – Joey Valgreen’s decomposing right before our ojos – bad back, ankle, and calf.    We have no faith whatsoever in Hawkins but if he asked us to the SAGNOF dance, we’d accept the offer.  If you’ve got Valverde, go buy yourself some LaTroy Handcuffs…

Jay Bruce – Another HR.  This time I had him in my lineup.  Bruuuuuce!

Jeremy Guthrie – 6 IP, 5 ER.  Gotta know when to hold ‘em and know when to fold ‘em.  His team gives him no chances for wins, he faces the top offenses in baseball all the time, he doesn’t strikeout that many guys and he’s only a 4 ERA pitcher to begin with.   You win, world of Guthrie haters.  Are you happy?

Melky Cabrera – 2 HRs yesterday.  4 HRs in 23 ABs this year.  Everybody, come on!  We’re doing The Jetstream! (What? Trying too hard?)

  1. Mark says:
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    Thoughts on Wakefield?

  2. Bob From Germany says:
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    I’m not sure at the moment, what sucks more:

    Having Prince Fielder in your lineup every fu**in day or having Pablo Sandoval backing him up?

    Really, i should bench them both. But as soon as i will do this, Prince will hit them to the moon.

    I still think they both will have good seasons, but these idiots will be both red hot at the same time.

    One Question: Does anyone think i should bench Liriano as long as he pitches like Barely Ziro (and Barry Zito is pitching like he’s Liriano)?

    sorry for my bad english btw, i’m from germany…

  3. Emporers Monkey says:
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    Great article as usual. I had Jurrjens and Danks rolling today and then BlowJ Ryan had to come in and poop on my stats. Thats the last time that beak-nosed balding piece of crap ever graces my lineup. I would rather finish dead last in saves than to watch his greasy ass come in and sweat buckets as he gives up walks and homers. He has to win ugliest closer now that Turnbow isnt around anymore.

  4. Steve says:
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    Love me the sound of some cheap Liriano. Team in my H2H 12-teamer that has him also has Baker and only one closer, so needs some pitching help.

    My starters worth mentioning are Haren, Bills, Wainwright, Wandy, Wolf, and Lowe. My closers are Qualls, F-Cord, Franklin, Percy and Sherrill – what a line-up!

    What’s a good combo to offer up? Wandy and Sherrill? Lowe and Sherrill?

  5. ButchHuskey says:
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    after Gregg imploded again on me last night traded Vazquez straight up for Francisco Cordero and Picked up Hawkins, dropping Calero. (saves and holds are categories) I feel like the Nationals rebuilding my bullpen in one day.

    No one is buying Gregg and I am sure he will be picked up if I drop him but can I cut bait anyway? I hate this guy and even though I got him with my last pick I wish I would have drafted my name sake instead.

  6. Aneil says:
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    Pence has been solid, but have a deal where I move him and and Atkins – afraid of the decline – knowing it’s still very early, but what do you think of the following:
    Atkins/Pence/Volquez
    /for
    Chipper/McCann/Peralta
    -Risk with Chipper and McCann’s unknown eye thing, but with his interest in Volquez – seems right?

  7. Tony says:
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    Kemp went 0-4 last night do you think I could trade a bag of nickels thats actually a bag of dirt to an owner for him?

    HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA can’t wait to see how many posts start like that today….

    Threw JAR-JAR and Haren who FINALLY got 2 runs of support lastnight. Plus My relieft crew of F-CORD (who an anxious owner dropped one week before the season began and i “blew” my waiver priority on, thanks grey) Qualls, and Hanananranhan have 8 SAVES this week. 23 innings pitched, 4 runs total, my whip and ERA are a hair over 1.00 nastYYYYYYYYYYY….. Only need 32 innings on the week, and i gots 23, with shields going tonight, MONEY….

    now if my hitting would take off their blind folds

    another SONOVABENCH on Bruce for this guy….

    Eithier is beasting it up, Torre seems to like him to since he actually bats in a good spot EVERY night, not once a week like KEMP.

  8. Tony says:
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    Bannister was solid last night, but he’s always solid vs. Cleveland. Somehow KC is always solid vs. KC the past few years! That and you don’t know if the Tribe is going to show up. They’re my team and they’re either putting up 24 runs or they’re getting BLANKED!

  9. vinko says:
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    How long is BJ’s leash in Toronto?? Wondering who might replace him if he is demoted. Seems like Cito prefers Downs in the 7-8, so does it mean Jason Frasor might get a shot?

  10. southernsampler says:
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    Should I drop Hudson Street or Dan Wheeler to pick up Todd Coffey? My pitching staff is Haren, Lowe, Vazquez, Cain, Randy Johnson, Edwin Jackson, Soria, Street, Ziegler, LaTroy Hawkins, Dan Wheeler

  11. Hardcore Midget says:
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    Raffy Soriano, Frasor and Coffey are all available in my league. Which one is most worth picking up? I’d probably dump Giambi for one of them.

  12. Eric H. says:
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    Would you trade Brett Myers for Francisco Liriano or is that assinine? Be brutally honest. Thanks.

  13. gleeksquad says:
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    huge cueto fan here, considering where he was going in most drafts a K per IP guy who can hover near 4.00 is value baby.

  14. Teef says:
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    @Eric – wouldn’t even think twice about it

  15. re: Coffey. He could also be one of many schmohawks the Brewz march out to get pounded, while Hoffman stays injured.

    But did I add him. Yes I did. Waiter — Coffey please!

    @vinko: I think Downs is next in line in T.O. He handled caddy duties last year while Beej was injured.

    Aw, who remembers the old Caddy Duty Time show? [sings] It’s Caddy Duty time! It’s Caddy Duty time!

    @Hardcore Midget: Take Soriano. But remember: Bobby Cox is not a friend to the save-chasing fantasy fan.

    @Eric H.: Not assinine. Grey might say its apples-to-apples, and he’d likely be right, but Liriano does have a much higher upside. Get Liriano.

    @Tony: I also benched Bruce against Lilly. Didn’t figure he’d donk in the 9th off a reliever. Such as Gregg. Who I own. BINGO!

    Ah well, at least he’s heating up. Better to have guys go 2-4 on your bench than 0-4. I’M LOOKING AT YOU, BRANDON PHILLIPS.*

    *In fairness to him, he also went 2-4 on my bench last night. In fairness to me, he’s been sucking hind teat since April Fool’s Day.

    @ButchHuskey: Normally I say don’t trade for saves but I like this trade. Vazq is the most overrated sleeper of the season. He is what he is.

    If you own him, I recommend pretending you’re down on him, and selling for a middle-round OF or something. Like Pence*! That way, the other owner thinks, ‘Ha! I’m selling high on Pence and buying low on Vaz!’ While you think, ‘That’s what you think!’

    *No one loves Pence. It’s true. Not sure why, but I challenge anyone here to show me a single owner who’s apeshizz over Pence. I know I’m not. Which is weird, b/c he’s good.

    Lastly: CUETO? Pick him up? Has he turned a corner? Can I get a projection? Better than Edwin Jackson? WHO I LOVE?

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    @Eric H.: If you could find an owner who would even think of agreeing to that, yes. Yes. And, yes.

  17. Bonus question: Drop Dukes, pick up Fields?

    I’ve got Dye, Bruce, V. Wells in the OF. Don’t like Wells; also don’t like playing roster roulette.

  18. Eric H. says:
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    Just want to double-check before I do this, but I’m the one receiving Liriano. If you guys are cool with it, I’m pulling the trigger.

  19. @Eric H.: Yes, do it. I should have been more enthusiastic. BUT I’M MORE ENTHUSIASTIC NOW!

    As John Travolta said to Dennis Farina in that one movie:

    GET LIRIANO!

  20. Tony says:
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    @Eric H.: I’d deal Myers for Liriano, i wouldn’t accept Myers for MY LIRIANO. Again check the splits above, he’s just a bad april/march pitcher….

    but they pitch in a dome? hahah i dont get it….

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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Got a dude in my league that loves PENCE, had him as a rook, drafts him every year in the past 2 since…..

    Owners get their hooks in guys when they’re young, they develop a puppy love for them, who knows….

  22. Tony says:
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    @Eric H.: Yeah if that deals on the table PULL THE TRIGGER, myers won’t keep it together, and LIRIANO will turn it around down the stretch, much more upside….

  23. Emcobra says:
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    All you need to know about Verlander is to read his comments after he pitches. “I had great stuff” “Guys just made plays” “I was rolling untill” The guy has all the stuff in the world but needs to take a humility pill and realize he’s not the greatest pitchers on earth. If he’s do that he might start to place pitches and work on what he needs to suceed. but right now he just thinks hey two men on I need to throw this fastball 98 instead of 95 and no one will hit it.

  24. Emcobra says:
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    Damn I’m glad I took all those English classes.

  25. Tony says:
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    @Emcobra: maybe you needed “keyboarding” haha

    verlander was such a bust last year at least people (hopefully) were taking him late this year and he’s not such a bust if he repeats 2008. I just dont know how it goes so bad so fast with guys that were clicking 100 mph on the gun? Its crazy.

  26. mc serch says:
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    I picked up Cueto yesterday to be my last SP (I got Shields, Joba, Gallardo, Bedard, Slowey and Wandy in a hypercompetitive 12 teamer). I dropped H. Blaylock (who was only on my bench because I figured I should have one Texas Ranger hitter on my squad) to get the deed done. I think Cueto’s got tremendous upside and last year was a bit of a learning curve for him. We’ll see. He’s been prone to some wild swings but when its on its great (you know, like that crazy bitch you just can’t stay away from but should). Besides, Grey once said that Cueto’s the mother-effing butterfly flappin his wings in Bali or some shizz like that. It was a great organic, surreal metaphor (my suspicion is Grey was on shrooms when he wrote it). I think the point was that Cueto’s got transcendent potential.

  27. Paulie Allnuts

    Paulie Allnuts says:
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    Todd Coffey pitched an old-time 2 2/3 inning save against the Mets last week. Villaneuva didn’t even warm up.

    Punt Maine? I have already punted Pelfrey, and will never own Ollie again under any circumstances. I have seen too many games where Perez has pitched five perfect innings with 8 K’s, and then gives up five walks and six runs the next inning. When Livan is your most dependable starter after Santana, the Mets are in a peck of trouble.

    Yankee Jetstream? Supposedly, wind tests were done, and there was no difference between the new and old stadium. Maybe they are heating up the baseballs? One thing to consider – almost all of the Yankee home games thus far were day games. Perhaps the effect will diminish at night. I did notice that one of my league managers picked up Melky. If he hits 25 dingers, that would be proof positive.

    @Grey – Are you also suggesting to punt Baker? I did so yesterday, disregarding my rule to wait 24 hours before releasing a player whom I am p.o’d at. But you seem to justify my hastiness today. So if he pulls a C.C., I can say Grey made me do it, right?

  28. willclarkismyhero says:
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    Please rank: Fields, Lowell, Reynolds. Notice I put them in alphabetical order so you would have no idea which way I am leaning.

  29. Just wrangled Liriano for KRod in a 5×5 league of an owner I thought was dead money. Deal…good, bad, ugly?

    Staff is now Santana, Hamels, JJohnson, Wandy, Davies, EJackson, Baker (ugh), and Liriano.

    Closers is a daily dumpster dive, but I have Corpas and Hoffman, both who have been gleamed off waivers.

  30. @Tony: Good point. It’s important to keep track of the man-crushes in your league. That way you know how to extract max. value in trades.

    I am hoping to work this magic in my league with Brandon Phillips. I have to wait until Phillips gets over .200, however.

    Am I going to regret taking Slowey over Danks? I am? Thanks.

  31. matt dubya says:
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    who’s more valuable in a standard 5×5…just as an extra hitter: ian stewart or carlos guillen?

  32. Tony says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Yeah I am thinking about trying to snake BPhillips from a guy. Some of these guys are just stubborn, the old “BUY LOW” deal is harder to pull off than it sounds…. if its a prospect sure, they might go for it if the value is decent you’re offering, but when its guys with a track record, most “smart” managers are gonna wait it out….

    I mean you take guys in the 3rd round for a reason?

  33. royce! says:
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    I’m coveting Oswalt and Liriano, and think I might be able to land one or the other (or both) with Choo and/or Hafner. They are one different teams, though, so which bat should I offer for which pitcher, respectively? I’m thinking Choo for Oswalt and Hafner for Liriano.

    I know the chances that the owners will accept might be slim, but my better bats are much better (Sparkakis, Reyes, Votto and Aramis), so it’s all I can think to offer.

  34. Mark says:
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    My starters are Harang, Volquez, Davies, Scherzer, Millwood, Wandy and Lohse. I would like to make a trade offer for Danks to a team that is short on starters – my thought is to offer 2 of mine for Danks. Any possible combos jump out at you. I was thinking Volquez and ??? It’s a 10-team Roto with ERA, WHIP, W, S, Ks as the pitching categories. Also, I could claim Chris Young off waivers or make a bid on Cueto.

  35. Dingo says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Well, I’m one of those fools who reached for Vazquez, but I don’t think he’s necessarily overrated. He’s only two years removed from having a top-15 pitcher season, and when I drafted him, I was counting on two reasons for expecting his stats this year to be better than last year’s:

    1) Not facing the DH
    2) Turner Field is less homer-prone than U.S. Cellular

    So far, his performance hasn’t disappointed. That said, he’s still a likely injury risk, according to Grey’s analysis, so I don’t think a Vazquez for Pence trade would be unreasonable.

    Regarding Cueto vs. Jackson, all of the projection systems like Cueto better, and his peripherals so far look much better (higher K rate, less luck on balls in play, etc.). Both of them are pitching way above their heads right now, but I’d expect Jackson’s eventual regression to be larger than Cueto’s.

  36. Vince says:
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    Would offering my Garza for his Liriano be a good idea? My other SPs are Oswalt, Wainwright, Greinke, Josh Johnson (don’t really want to offer any of those 4 for Liriano…) and Ubaldo (this one’s certainly not enough for Liriano)…

  37. p0rk burn says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: I too have a Pence lover in a league. He’s lurking around these comments somewhere. Yeah I’m talking about you, jerk-face.

    Start Wand-Rod (redundant?) tonight? I don’t like his chances against C. PaysMyBills.

  38. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Mark: Guy who throws a pitch that is completely unpredictable to him and the batters, sometimes to great results, sometimes to awful results.

    @Bob From Germany: Barely Zito! — That’s funny. Not quite what you said, but still funny. So, yeah, you can’t bench Fielder, Sandoval or Liriano. Just gotta ride them out for now. BTW, I also changed your username because Bob was taken.

    @Emporers Monkey: Nice rant.

    @Steve: Wandy and Sherrill sounds good.

    @ButchHuskey: Ha… Yeah, you can’t cut Gregg.

    @Aneil: I wouldn’t do that trade.

    @southernsampler: Great staff, I love when I see guys carrying a half dozen potential closers. Lose Wheeler for him.

    @Eric H.: Get Liriano.

    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Hold Dukes.

    @Emcobra: Yup.

    @mc serch: Shrooms indeed.

    @Paulie Allnuts: Not saying punt Baker, because I think he can get something in a trade, even as an add-on. But I’m not crazy about him.

    @willclarkismyhero: Reynolds, Fields, Lowell

    @naughtandcross: That’s a nice trade. Your starters are so solid though, I’d consider trading away Hamels or someone for a big piece.

    @matt dubya: Stewart

    @royce!: I’d do either of those deals. The Hafner one first.

    @Mark: Scherzer and Millwood? Scherzer and Lohse? Wandy and Scherzer? I’d make sure I got Young though.

  39. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Vince: I’d want Liriano over Garza.

    @p0rk burn: I’d start him.

  40. Tony says:
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    @Vince: garza isn’t enough in a smart owners eye…. if you could flip josh johnson for him? I know the Marlins are on pace to win 150 games, but Liriano was a 7-8th rounder for a reason… he’ll get it together.

  41. Vince says:
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    @Grey: Hey Grey, on another note, I’ve been offered James Shields straight up for my Greinke… Would you accept it? I know Greinke’s on the top 20 risky pitchers list, but I just like his upside so much…

  42. @Dingo: Not a fool at all (unless if when you say “reached,” you mean “drafted in the 3rd round.”)

    Vaz could put together a nice season for the Braves: 15W, 3.75 ERA, 200Ks. Or he could be the pitcher he’s been pretty much since his Expos days: Great stuff, excellent peripherals, homer-prone, frustrating as hell. There’s nothing wrong with betting on him this season. And some of this is colored by my bad experience owning him in ’05.

    My only point is that, if you trade him now, you’re trading the better player that everyone thinks he’ll be, rather than who he actually is. So you’re possibly getting better value. Even if he ends up as that better player, you shouldn’t lose much, since that’s who you traded to begin with. (I know that makes little sense. Damn you, extra-cup-of-coffee!)

  43. p0rk burn says:
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    @Vince: I prefer Shields as long as he isn’t pitching in Fenway.

  44. Ashley says:
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    Come on Grey.. You’re smarter than this. Scott Downs intentionally gave up that run just so he could sit back and watch another 9th inning implosion by BJ Ryan. It sounds like Ryan’s days as the closer are numbered..

    And for whatever reason, Scott Baker believes he’s improving…

    “It was a little better than last outing as far as the mechanics go, as far as getting the ball down … I’m not too discouraged … Physically, I feel great. The stuff is there; I just need to be more consistent.”

  45. Griff says:
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    Tell me what you guys think of this trade:

    I get:
    Pedroia
    Huff

    I give:
    Youkilis
    Josh Johnson
    Corpas

    Foonote: My 2B is jose lopez. Corpas is my FIFTH closer (ten team league, most of my leaguemates’ employers block ESPN fantasy)

  46. p0rk burn says:
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    @Griff: You’re giving up too much almost for the sake of giving up too much.

  47. Schatzi says:
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    Another trade question:
    I was thinking of offering D.Lee,Ordonez,Bedard,F.Lopez and H.Bell
    for Howard,Mauer,Ethier and Liriano

    Is it not enough? his only closer is Morrow. If I did this, my only closer would be Soria, but I’d simply get saves from the FA, like Coffey/Hawkins.

  48. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Vince: I’d want Shields.

    @Ashley: A sassy girl who likes baseball… Have you met my divorced friend, Big Fat Hippo?

    “It’s the strongest I’ve ever felt in my life.” — Random player right before he has an underwhelming long season.

    @Griff: Don’t like it.

  49. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Schatzi: Probably not enough, but you can try it.

  50. Bob says:
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    @Grey – Thanks for preserving the Bob brand name.

  51. gleeksquad says:
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    @Baron: i’m buying 12 W 185Ks 4.2 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP for cueto with a bit of upside on the wins and Ks depending on how many innings dusty leaves him out there for.

  52. Griff says:
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    @p0rk burn: Ya. I consider Corpas essentially worthless except in a trade, because I don’t think he’ll help my ratios and I don’t need more saves. Youkilis feels like a sell-high candidate with Ortiz struggling. Even if Youk does have a good year, I think it will be Pedroia who’s scoring a lot of runs in front of him, so I’m kind of hedged in that respect. Josh Johnson is the only piece of this that worries me.

  53. @gleeksquad: Sadly, in my 12-team mixed league, none of those numbers get the job done, save for the 185Ks….

    @Griff: You’re totally outthinking yourself. Lopez is a fine 2B and Youk’s been great this year. JJ has a chance to emerge as a legit SP stud. If anyone’s likely to see a value drop-off, it’s Pedroia.

    Step away from the trade button. Step… away…

  54. sean says:
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    Drop Beltre for Fields?

  55. Joel says:
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    @Mark: Wakefield is streakalicious.

    He was actually a decent back-end replacement-type pitcher last season (4.13 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 117 Ks) but that’s pretty much the best you’re going to get from him. And it will be in the form of heartburn inducing near-no-hitters followed by 7 ER in 2 inning bombfests.

  56. Joel says:
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    I picked up Nyjer Morgan with my extra slot freed up from trading Ortiz + Sabathia.

    My team is in last place in runs; I have 70 runs this year, and first place has 103.

    When Mauer comes back and I trade him, I drop Denard Span and keep Morgan, right?

  57. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey: Ha! Yes we’ve met. We used to take baths together when we were kids.

    Actually, I prolly have underwear older than her.

  58. bubba chuck says:
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    Drop good face for Nyjer Morgan?

  59. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @sean: Nope

    @Joel: I’d want Span over Morgan.

    @BigFatHippo: Wait, I was joking. You actually know Ashley in real life?

    ***Who knows people here in real life? Cause I only know Rudy.

  60. BigFatHippo says:
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    Somebody loan me a 1B so I can bench the Fat Prince of Mil-ler!

  61. Vince says:
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    @Grey: Do you prefer Billingsley over Shields?

  62. NoonTime says:
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    @Vince: You may as well be asking “Do you prefer the 2009 Cy Young winner or Shields?”

  63. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey: I was kidding. I only know Al K and should have never told him about Razzball. He’s currently in 1st.

  64. Frank Rizzo says:
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    @Vince: Oh hell yah! I own both but it would take more to get Bills from me than it would Shields.

  65. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Vince: I prefer them both!

  66. Zebo says:
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    drop Brandon Wood for Bonifacio? I need someone at SS or 2B, options are these: Fontenot, Bonifacio, Burriss, Tejada, O Cab,

  67. Emcobra says:
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    Anyone else do this? I have 4 teams I’m doing awesome in and 2 that I auto drafted in and they aren’t so good. But I’m having more fun with the auto drafted teams because the 4 I’m doing good in all look the same. Kemp,Billingsly,Quention,Votto ect. The other 2 are way different so it’s a nice change to have players you don’t normaly draft. Even if they aren’t as good.

  68. Zebo says:
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    trade derrek lee for tulowitski?

  69. RT says:
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    FYI.. Blue Jays just placed Romero on the DL with an oblique strain. What the hell are they doing over there to all of their starters.

  70. big o says:
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    @Paulie Allnuts:
    if you know of a good 12-step program , send me the link .
    vascillating between putting a bullet in my head , or choking the shit out of that rat- bastard , ollie .
    NEVER AGAIN . (please , Lord) never again .

    biggest “scoop” of the year (not to be confused with “snipe” , which is a draft term) ===> some clown in one of my 12 teamers just dropped granderson ….. i had to drop anibal , to accommodate … and i was 5th (!!!) on the waiver-wire list .

    @Grey:
    charter member of “the world of guthrie haters” … but am not rejoicing .
    we all have our guthries .

    also , do you think that if i bench fielder , it might snap him out of his deep sleep ? seems to be working this week with crawford out in seattle .

    @ ALL :
    so , you think YOU’RE running bad ???
    am considering starting a service , where-in , out of the goodness of your heart , you send me money and i WON’T bet on your team today .
    only win-win situation that i can think of .

  71. Emcobra says:
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    @Zebo I think it’s time to stick a fork in Lee…so yes. a bad 1B for a so far bad SS I’ll take the upside.

  72. Billy says:
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    Samardzija was called up for long RP, Why? Is he going to take Marsh’s spot in the Rotation

  73. Billy says:
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    Does anyone think the Z man will take the closer role away from Rodney?

  74. knighttown says:
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    Trying to buy low from a known dealer carrying both Liriano and Chris Davis.

    Make a package of Cain, Romero, E. Jackson, Choo, Ibanez that allows me to win this deal.

  75. Freak says:
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    Thanks for letting me know about Liriano’s bad Aprils 3/4 of the way through.

    Jerk!

    (Just playin’. Maybe)

  76. NoonTime says:
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    @knighttown: everyone but Ibanez for the pair.

  77. @Zebo: I’d do that. Lee is easy to replace.

    @big o: Please bench Fielder. Somebody. Anybody. I need him to start hitting. See also: Ramirez, Alexei; Phillips, Brandon; Wright, David.

    Though if they all get hot at the same time, I may rocket up to 4th!

    Speaking of Saunders, someone in my league just traded him for Lowell. I don’t really care, b/c I don’t care about Lowell, but how someone flipped Saunders for anything leaves my brain itchy. 8Ks in 25 IPs! THAT’S NOT GOOD! Stop looking at ERA when deciding to make trades, Rest-O-the-League!

    I should talk — I’m in 8th*.

    Hey Rudy — please put up those combined Razz League rankings! My boys killed it last night, led by Scott Baker, Mike Aviles and RazzVP Brian Giles.

    *technically, tied for 9th.

    @Billy: Nope. Or, rather, people have been saying this for 3 years. I’ll see it when I believe it.

    @RT: What an oblique comment.

  78. @Zebo: I have been actively shopping Derek Lee for an upgrade anywhere. In my 12 team league, I feel like his production can be replaced pretty easily via the wire.

    I would pull the trigger on a Lee for Tulo deal if Tulo presents an upgrade for you at SS.

  79. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Billy: Yep, that’s why he’s stashed on the DL. I like the way you think.

  80. NoonTime says:
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    Hamels looking good so far…. hitting spots, fastball @ 90, offspeed @ 71… 5 K in 2 IP… it is the Brewers though.

  81. RedSox says:
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    Team A:

    Dustin Pedroia
    Mike Cameron
    Denard Span
    Ubaldo Jimenez

    Team B:

    Alexei Ramirez
    Andre Ethier
    Willy Taveras
    David Price

    Who wins?

  82. BigFatHippo says:
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    @NoonTime: Sweet!

    On a slow day for most players I’ve got a full roster of hitters and 5 SP going, is this cause I’m smarter? No, just dumb luck. Hamels, Bills, Shields, Wandy, Lohse.

  83. cubbies299 says:
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    Hey, is Arroyo 14 team mixed material? Drop Derek Holland/Chien Ming Wang for him?

  84. NoonTime says:
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    Day Games + MLB.tv + 30″ monitor = RAZZICAL!

    @BigFatHippo: Bills + Wandy = Dueling No-No’s?

  85. Lucky you with the big TV home theater.

  86. sean says:
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    Braun — two-run homer. Prince — infield single.

    Things that make you go hmmmm

  87. wily mo says:
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    i’m nobody, but i’m going the other way on greinke/shields. greinke, greinke, greinke. greinke. his Blue Period put everybody off him for so long that i think most people have forgotten what kind of prospect he was. he put up a sub-4.00 ERA in the AL when he was 20, and he was doing that with location and pitchability. (greinke.) now he has that and also throws 95-97, and has realized that with that kind of stuff sometimes you can just blow dudes away if you feel like it. then other times he goes back to painting the black just to make sure he can still do it.

    (greinke.) he absolutely has the ability to be the best pitcher in baseball, and it seems to be coming together for him. i want that.

    oh, and greinke already had a better ERA and more strikeouts than shields did last year. plus he’s not pitching in the east.

  88. sean says:
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    Uh oh for Hamels owners…

  89. I'm Keith Hernandez says:
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    @knighttown: Hamels hit by a line drive off Fielder’s bat and out of the game

  90. cubbies299 says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: Poor Baron. Wright’s only hitting .302 with meager run production. Tell me your address so I can put you on suicide watch.

    Meanwhilst I think Ianetta went back in time and kissed Casey Kotchman… boy does he look like shit.

  91. I'm Keith Hernandez says:
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    @BigFatHippo: Looks like the shoulder, they are saying it doesn’t appear bad and they took him out for precautionary reasons. Guy is not catching a break.

  92. Grey

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    @sean: Prince is killing me. And Hamels.

    @I’m Keith Hernandez: Thanks for the update!

    @wily mo: I like Greinke a lot. I traded for him last year (Eat it, Rudy!), but his increase in pitches from ’07 to ’08 is troublesome.

  93. Cole Slawed! Good thing they didn’t replace him with a pitcher named Green cuz Prince would’ve collared him.

    @Grey: Yeah, Melky sucked it…i wish i traded you Harang instead….

  94. @cubbies299: I have a player who so far this year has put this line together:

    .202/ 21 R / 3 HRS / 20 RBI / 5 SB

    Not bad, right? Lousy average, but good run production and some steals.

    What player is this? I like to call him Daviprindonexei Wramielderips.

    i.e. The first four hitters I drafted. 3 HRs. Combined.

    And you want me to weep because your upside catcher isn’t panning out? For shame, man. For shame.

  95. NoonTime says:
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    @wily mo: You are not nobody anymore! You are a Razzball commenter now!! Greinke and Shields are close, 20 ADPs apart on ESPN for the most part and it’s probably a coin flip who finishes higher. Track record, injury risk, home division….When it comes down to it though I’d want a Rays pitcher over a KC pitcher.

  96. ron mexico's papi says:
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    @Grey: For my CI spot: Joshua “Strawberry” Fields or Edwin Encarnacionionionionion?

    For my MI spot: Kelly Johnson, Jason Bartlett or Emilo Bonerfacialio?

  97. AL KOHOLIC says:
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    hammels,we dont have to worry about to many innings this year,13 innings threw 3 starts,27 starts=117 innings,hope not,ill be needing him

  98. cubbies299 says:
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    On a scale of zero (Dontrelle Willis) to ten (Johan Santana), how dunzo is Scott Shields? He just got dropped and it’s a holds league

  99. cubbies299 says:
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    Also, what are your current projections for Fields? He looks like he’s wrangling his K’s, but his power’s been meek thusfar.

  100. sean says:
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    And Wright eats it again…

  101. ron mexico's papi says:
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    @Grey: Along those same lines, what do you think of Fields in a keeper format? We keep 4 guys out of each draft class. 26 man rosters, 10 team league. Each year we name a 4-year, 3-year, 2-year and 1-year keeper, so a total of 100 players are kept going into next year’s draft. I got Adam Jones, Joe Mauer, Clayton Kershaw, Derek Jetah, Max Scherzer, Adam Wainwright, Josh Fields (out of free agency post draft), James Loney, Kelly Johnson and Encarnacion all this year in addtion to some schmos I have no intention of keeping (such as closers, for example). Do you like Fields for a year or two better than Kershaw or Wainwright or Loney or Jetah? I’m hoping Jones and Mauer can be by 4- and 3- year guys.

  102. sean says:
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    Oh man, the Prince-man cometh?!?

    First he knocks Hamels out, then he clears the bags!!

  103. wily mo says:
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    @Grey: yeah, i know, the risky pitchers list. you know what? screw that. so he was in the pen for most of 07. i think ability trumps it. most guys of his caliber don’t wind up in that situation, so i’m not sure how predictive it’ll be looking at similarly-shaped track records. don’t get me wrong, i understand the concerns and it’s worth noting, but i think at this point the biggest risk attached to greinke is the risk that he’s this year’s lincecum and you wind up feeling like a doofus for putting him on the risky pitchers list.

  104. cubbies299 says:
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    should I hold Derek Holland till he gets in the rotation? Man was looking filthy last night with a 97 mph heater and control… Piqued my interest, but Josh Fields is on waivers

  105. cubbies299 says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: nah. I feel you on ur other guys, but if .302 is a slow start for Wright, tell me where to sign up. I think I’m gonna trade Ianetta and punt catcher. He’s too exasperating for a position I don’t give a shit about.

  106. wily mo says:
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    of course i’d also rather have garza than liriano, so what do i know.

  107. wily mo says:
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    re: liriano’s monthly averages, and needing some time to get going: just looked this up.

    april this year: bad.
    april 2008: 11.32 ERA in three starts fresh off TJ. didn’t show up in the majors again until august. footnote: lit up in 2 of his last 3 starts.
    april 2007: didn’t pitch all year.
    april 2006: was still in the bullpen, only threw 14 innings all month (3.77, from one horrible 5 ER outing).

    not sure that’s really a clear-cut trend of slow starts followed by may-june surges: in fact, it’s so not a trend, he’s never done that exact thing even once. first he was just good, in 2006. then he had surgery. then he tried to come back with different healthier mechanics, and he was bad. then he took two months off to get his old mechanics back and he was good again. now he’s bad. why? who knows. not me.

  108. Tom says:
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    I have an open spot due to injury. I also havy Salty at catcher, and a slight need for saves. With that said, do I grab

    Andy LaRoche (I like the slight turnaround he’s made), Hawkins (yuck), Jose Guillen (lame), Ramon Hernandez, or wait a day and get Rasmus when he’s off waivers.

  109. elRioCaballo says:
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    so i was told yesterday my pitching is weak, which it is when J.Johnson n Danks r my aces in a 10 team points league. So i’m shopping around and i have some1 willing to give up Lester for my Ethier/GalarRags.. but i’m pushing Cruz/GalaRags instead.

    should i keep pushin, and if it doesnt pan out give in with Ethier??

    and is Victorino enough to get Liriano?

    i have Rios, Kemp, Hermida as my other OF.

    I think i’m addicted to trading..at least 3 more

    I would rant about one of my hitters.. but RIOS is finally coming around..hope i didn’t just jinx myself

  110. Jasonbayniac says:
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    The guy whi is in first place at the moment dropped Liriano to waivers the other day in exchange for Romero!!??? I picked him up and he is now on my bench.

  111. elRioCaballo says:
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    haha..well i guess one of my questions was answered…. the manager came back with Liriano/Furcal for Kinsler/Rios…. should’ve seen that coming

  112. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Tom: Get Rasmus.

    @Jasonbayniac: Nice!

    @elRioCaballo: You don’t want Lester. Victorino should get Liriano.

    ********If your comment isn’t about this post, there’s a new post up.

  113. Dingo says:
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    @Baron Von Vulturewins: I like this game. For my equivalent set, named Josincematimir Reyieldollidero, I get:

    .264/16 R/3 HR/26 RBI/ 3 SB, with a DL stint thrown in for good measure. Times are tough.

  114. Steve says:
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    Hay-soos. Shields gives up a jack to Ichiro. WTF?

  115. yoshinorimike says:
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    @Grey: I like Danks a lot too, but I’d feel a lot better about him if he’s still producing after his BABIP comes up (currently .157, LOWEST in the majors).

    P.S. Edwin Jackson is number two at .163

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