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Looking Back at an Expert League 2008 Draft

November 19, 2008 By: Rudy Gamble Category: Fantasy Baseball Writers League (Brock4Broglio), Rudy Gamble 9 Comments →

It’s easy to look back at a league you just lost in and come up with several ‘What ifs’ that would’ve led your team to victory.

I’m going to take a look at one of my expert league teams that sucked it – coming in 8th out of 12 in a league set up by Brock for Broglio and co-won by Tim Dierkes of RotoAuthority and Tim McLeod of RotorobRotonomics finished a disappointing 10th, obviously hobbled by their Timlessness.

I finished with 57.5 points.  The co-winners finished with 95 points.  How much of these 37.5 points could I have reduced with just a little draft luck.

Below are my picks along with hindsight grades and some info on whomelse was on the board.  Just making three different decisions – all three near coin-flip – would’ve netted an estimate 26 extra points and could’ve put me in contention.

  • Pick #8 – Jeff Francouer.  Swap with Jason Bay who actually ranked higher based on my Point Shares but I moved him down b/c he fucked me with moose antlers the previous year.  Point gain (using Point Shares) is 9.82 points (Bay was +4.11, Frenchy was -5.71)
  • Pick #9 – Juan Pierre.  Swap with Jacoby Ellsbury who went a few picks later would’ve netted 6.09 points (+1.48 vs. -4.61)
  • Pick #14 – Khalil Greene.  Swap with fellow Dhyslexic SS Jhonny Peralta who went a pick later nets 10.29 points (1.86 vs. -8.61).

The rest of the blame would have to go to FA pickups. Of the top 40 most valuable players drafted after #200, I had two (Fuentes and Torres) and traded Fuentes soon after for Rickie Weeks (ugh).  RotoAuthority drafted McLouth (5th most valuable with an ADP greater than 200) and picked up Cliff Lee (MVP > 200 ADP) and Aubrey Huff (6th most valuable > 200 ADP).  RotoRob didn’t score with FA hitters but had Ervin Santana (3rd most valuable) + drafted bargains (Roy Halladay & Mariano Rivera) + a great trade (Johan Santana’s great 2nd half for a crappy 2nd half from Utley – the trade was w/ me BTW…).   (To see a list of the top fantasy bargains of 2008.)

So there you have it.  A draft with four great picks out of the first 6 ruined by an awful 7th-9th, a coin-flip in the 14th, and missing out on just about every impactful FA.  And if the three picks above didn’t suck so much, I wouldn’t have had to trade Johan’s great 2nd half (2.10 ERA in 110 IP) for Utley’s mediocre one (46/8/35 in 247 ABs).

Round Player Grade Explanation
1 (5) Johan Santana A Santana finished 6th in value.  No one could pick Halladay, Sabathia, Lincecum, or Cliff Lee here.  Hanley was gone.
2 (20) Mark Teixeira A- Teixeira finished 29th in value.  Obviously couldn’t take a pitcher here.  The only hitter who was a realistic pick here was Beltran.
3 (29) Adam Dunn C- 110th in value..ugh.  People hated this at the time and they were proven right.  Really wanted Berkman here who got picked 3 picks before.  Webb was high on my list but, again, couldn’t go w/ a starter.  Needed an OF bad.  Realistic better picks would’ve been:  Manny, Abreu, Markakis, Magglio, Corey Hart, and Torii Hunter.
4 (44) Garrett Atkins C 112th in value.  Loved this pick at the time as did a few other drafters.  Manny (11th in value) was picked next.  Ouch.  Chipper was available and a better 3B choice but Atkins projected higher before the season.
5 (53) Dan Haren A- 25th in value.  But could’ve had Hamels (20th) instead.   K-Rod (24th) would’ve been a marginally better pick.  Really can’t complain.
6 (68) Joe Nathan A 36th in value.  Putz, Papelbon, and K-Rod off the board.  This pick is hard to fault.
7 (77) Jorge Posada F I never pick a catcher this high but this was a 2 catcher league.  Mauer and McCann went right before Nathan in the 6th round.  Catchers did prove shallow but this pick shit the bed.
8 (92) Jeff Francouer F 370th in value!  OFs got drafted fast in this league.  I don’t think anyone predicted Frenchy would suck so much.  Kemp went right before him.  The other OFs who were close to ADP that I could’ve taken were Jermaine Dye and Jason Bay.  Picked soon after – Mo Rivera and Lincecum.  You can add an “uck” onto that F.
9 (101) Juan Pierre F 291st in value.  Really wanted Victorino but he went super early (7th round).  Ellsbury (76th in value) went a couple picks later.  J-Bay and Halladay went later in this round too.  Hamilton didn’t go for two more rounds. Crap.
10 (116) Francisco Cordero B 93rd in value.  The only closers who would’ve been more valuable were Lidge and Soria.  Soria went a number of closers later.  Dye and Soto were the only better picks in the round.
11 (125) AJ Burnett A- 89th in value.  Could’ve had Hamilton instead but, otherwise, really good pick.  Most picks were DOA – Gallardo, Towles, Carmona, Hermida.  Billingsley would’ve been a slightly better pick.
12 (140) Johnny Damon A 56th in value.  Best OF on the board by a mile.   The only better players that went in this range are Soria and Lidge.
13 (149) Chad Cordero F Most picks sucked this round.  Could’ve had BJ Ryan instead.  I picked up Rauch to back him up so didn’t really get hurt by this.  But it’s still an F.
14 (164) Khalil Greene F Pedroia went two picks before.  But Peralta went right after.  Peralta finished 67th in value.  Greene finished 458th.  Point Shares estimate this one coin flip cost me 10 points!!!!!!
15 (173) Adam Wainwright B 162nd in value.  If it weren’t for his bum finger, this would’ve proved much better.  Bonderman and Snell went in this round to give you some perspective.  Could’ve had D-Lowe (58th in value) instead.
16 (188) Philip Hughes D- This was set to be D-Lowe only to have him go one pick before.  Harden went next round.  Greinke lasted 5 more rounds.  There weren’t really any other SPs that could’ve been considered here (Volquez?  Who could predict Ervin Santana, Saunders, Gavin Floyd, Cliff Lee, etc.).  At least could dump him quick.
17 (197) Kevin Kouzmanoff C- Got him at a significant discount based on my predictions.  Amazingly, he finished 204th in value so this pick isn’t as awful as it seems.  Only Rich Harden (right before him) really did anything in this round.  McLouth went in the next round.  Adam LaRoche went next round and would’ve been slightly better.  Kevin Youkilis would’ve been WAY better.
18 (212) Kevin Youkilis A 40th in value.  Lucked out here as I had him in a coin flip with Garko who went two rounds later.  The ridiculous part was that this should’ve given me the cajones to dump Kouz since Youk could play 1B/3B but I was a Kouz believer.
19 (221) Heath Bell C Mostly crap at this point.  Benjie Molina was the only valuable pick in this round.  Bell sucked but was worth the gamble.
20 (236) Andy Pettitte D 293rd in value.  Greinke and Beuhrle went next round.  Lester in the 22nd.  Guthrie in the 23rd.  Seemed like a decent gamble but looks bad in retrospect.
21 (245) Melky Cabrera D I cut ties with him pretty soon.  Andre Ethier went around here but no one could’ve kept him while he was benched early in the year.  Milton Bradley would’ve been great.
22 (260) Freddy Sanchez C No 2Bs were really on the board here.  If he performs near his 2006/2007 numbers, it’s a steal.  But he never got over the bad shoulder.  Cut and run pretty quick but fill-ins like Mark Ellis didn’t help.  DeRosa would’ve been the stud 2B pick.
23 (269) Joaquin Benoit D Another potential closer pick.  Cut ties before the season started.
24 (284) Mike Napoli B He hit 10 HRs pretty quickly. Doumit was already gone.  Ianetta would’ve been a decent C pick but can’t fault the Napoli pick.
25 (293) Austin Kearns C- Took a gamble that Washington’s new stadium would be a hitter’s park.  Kearns sucked.  Milton Bradley and Randy Winn would’ve been better OF picks.  Guthrie was the only decent pick in this round.
26 (308) Jayson Nix C- Took a gamble on him when he was the interim 2B for the Rockies.  Not like there were any other great options.  Dropped him before the season started for Eugenio Velez who didn’t pan out either.  DeRosa and Alexei Ramirez would’ve been solid in-season pick-ups.

Rudy’s Expert League Teams – Status Report

April 13, 2008 By: Rudy Gamble Category: Fantasy Baseball Expert League (GreenerontheOtherSide), Fantasy Baseball Writers League (Brock4Broglio), Rudy Gamble 8 Comments →

Given I dole out advice on this site, it is only fair that you see how well I do in my public leagues. I’ll try and provide updates every fortnight or so…

March 25th – April 12th

Fantasy Baseball Writers League (Brock4Broglio) – 12 team mixed league – currently in 8th (63 pts, 16 pts out of 1st)

This was my first draft of the year, all the way back in late February. Aside from compounding the regret I had over taking Juan Pierre in the 9th round, I haven’t been adversely affected by the early draft date (whew on Lackey).

My pitching is doing just fine at this point with about 40 points. This was expected since I drafted pitching higher than most in the league. My offense is sucking in the early going with 2nd catcher Mike Napoli my HR leader at 3 and Mark Ellis my SB leader at 2. I’ve got a number of notorious slow starters like Teixiera and Atkins so I’m trying to stay patient.

Kudos to Tim @ RotoAuthority for his early lead, fueled by a 50 point offense with quick starters Derrek Lee, Nate McLouth, and Rick Ankiel.

Fantasy Baseball Experts League (Greener on the Other Side) - 12 team mixed league – currently in 1st place (91 pts, up by 4.5 pts)

I didn’t think my draft for this team was much different than the BrockforBroglio league and still don’t. The pitching is pretty similar as I have Santana and Haren on both. The difference is that I’ve had a lot of luck so far with early season power numbers. Mike Jacobs was a late round 2nd UTIL slot pick and his 5 HRs are followed by Torii’s 4, and 3 from Francouer and Peralta.

My starting pitching is a bit shallow in this league but I lucked out having the 1st waiver pick so I was able to replace Pedro with Johnny Cueto. But I’m pretty lucky to have 7 wins so far as my bevy of relievers have contributed three (Betancourt, Okajima, Rauch).

Kudos to me for the early lead and here’s hoping for better luck to league host Greener on the Other Side.

Insights, Oversights, and Musings from the 2008 Fantasy Baseball Writers League Draft

February 26, 2008 By: Rudy Gamble Category: Fantasy Baseball Writers League (Brock4Broglio), Rudy Gamble 9 Comments →

There are only three dates that matter to anyone remotely affiliated with baseball prior to Opening Day:  1) The day that pitchers & catchers report, 2) The day that hitters report, and 3) The day of your first fantasy draft (I did say remotely affiliated).

Now usually I pull a Manny Ramirez and wait until mid-March before getting things started but an opportunity arose to enter the Fantasy Baseball Writers League and I jumped at the chance to earn some bragging rights. Chalk it up to Rudy being Rudy.

Below are the members of our league, their draft order, and their first post after the draft (some have done multiple posts).

  1. Eric Hinz, FakeTeams – www.faketeams.com
  2. Zach Piso, Rotonomics – www.rotonomics.com
  3. Knox Bardeen, Crooked Pitch – www.crookedpitch.com
  4. David Chase, Brock For Broglio – www.brockforbroglio.com
  5. Rudy Gamble, Razzball
  6. Tim Dierkes, Roto Authority – www.rotoauthority.com
  7. Kelly Pfleiger, Fantasy Gameday – www.fantasygameday.net
  8. Bob Taylor, Fantasy Hurler  – www.fantasyhurler.blogspot.com
  9. Tim McLeod, RotoRob – www.rotorob.com
  10. Tony Bartlett, Fantasy Baseball Mafia – http://www.fantasybaseballmafia.com
  11. Derek Nelson, Seamless Baseball – http://mvn.com/mlb-fantasy
  12. Edwin Van Bibber-Orr, Seamless Baseball

Here’s how my draft turned out. I’m pretty happy with it.  I feel the Razzball.com team is more well-balanced than most (check their posts to see their rosters) with a very strong pitching staff from 1 through 11.  I’m obviously not thrilled about my 2B/MI spots but it’s a minor handicap that could be corrected by a breakthrough FA or perhaps good fortune (Nix is in line to be 2B in COL – has10 HR/20 SB potential).  I’ll take that over having subpar 1B (3 teams), reaches/question marks in the OF (5 teams), or iffy starting or closing pitching (several).

Round    Pick         Name                       Pos
7               (77)      Jorge Posada               C
24            (284)   Mike Napoli                 C
2              (20)      Mark Teixeira             1B
22           (260)    Freddy Sánchez         2B
14            (164)    Khalil Greene             SS
4              (44)     Garrett Atkins            3B (1B eligible)
17            (197)    Kevin Kouzmanoff    CI (3B)
26           (308)    Jayson Nix                 MI (2B)
3              (29)      Adam Dunn                OF
8              (92)      Jeff Francoeur           OF
9             (101)    Juan Pierre                 OF
12           (140)    Johnny Damon          OF
21           (245)    Melky Cabrera           OF
18           (212)    Kevin Youkilis           UTIL (1B, 3B)
1               (5)       Johan Santana            P
5             (53)      Dan Haren                   P
11           (125)     A.J. Burnett                 P
15          (173)     Adam Wainwright      P
16          (188)    Phil Hughes                 P
6            (68)     Joe Nathan                   P
10          (116)    Francisco Cordero      P
13          (149)    Chad Cordero              P
19          (221)    Heath Bell                    P
20         (236)    Andy Pettitte               P
23         (269)    Joaquín Benoit           P
25         (293)    Austin Kearns            OF

Since my fellow league members have taken care of the play-by-play for the top rounds, I’m going to focus the rest of this post on adding some color to the draft and providing some broader insights that might help you in your upcoming drafts.

Round 1:  The two biggest wildcards in the 1st round seem to be if/when Johan will be picked and who’ll bite on Pujols and his balky ‘Latin 28’ elbow.  (For those unfamiliar with Latin culture, their year has 400 days based on the wishes of an Incan god/aspiring baseball agent.  Cuba added an extra 2 weeks under Castro.)  In this draft, it was #5 for Santana (by yours truly) and #12 for Pujols.  I drew the 2nd pick in the draft but swapped with #5 knowing I could get Santana and avoid being in ‘wheel’ position.  As for Pujols, he’s a bargain if his elbow holds up and an anchor if he goes down.

Round 2 & 3:  These are the easiest or toughest rounds depending on who is left on the board.  Prince Fielder at #15 and Ryan Braun at #18 were easy picks.  In mock drafts, I had no problem snagging Carlos Lee at #20 but RotoAuthority took him at #19 and I was caught off-guard and went with Mark Teixiera.  In retrospect, I’m okay with this pick given there weren’t many 1B left on the board and one player had already doubled up on 1B with Howard and Fielder – setting an unofficial record for most pounds drafted in the first two rounds.  I was rooting for him to take Sabathia in the 3rd round but no luck.  The 3rd round saw great value in Peavy (1st pick in 3rd round) and Webb (2nd to last pick).  If you want V-Mart or Russell Martin in a 12-team, 2C league, be prepared to take them in the 3rd round.  I was lost on my 3rd round.  I had two clear favorites in Peavy and Berkman go off the board a few before me and reached on Dunn as a power OF over Ordonez and Markakis.  If I could do it again, I’d probably have taken Holliday at #1, Peavy #2, and Aramis Ramirez, Justin Morneau or Brandon Webb at #3.

Additional Observation on Rounds 2 & 3:  Here are three common picks in rounds 2-3 that I’m just not a fan of:  Ichiro (2nd round/10th pick), BJ Upton (2nd round/12th pick, Curtis Granderson 3rd round/4th pick).  Why?  Because at these levels, it presumes higher SB totals than what should be expected.  With his below average HR/RBI, Ichiro needs to steal 40 SB (and hit .340+) to warrant the high pick.  If he hits his more likely SB total of 30 (and .315), this is a bad value pick.  Upton is my favorite of the three because I THINK he’s a potental Soriano 30/40 guy.  But the more likely scenario is a 20/20 guy this year with a .270 average.  Unless he blows up, you’ve got yourself a darker Ian Kinsler in the 2nd round.  And Granderson?  What…are triples a category?  A 20/20 OF with 70 RBIs just doesn’t impress me that much.

Rounds 4-6: A lot of middle infield (8) and starting pitching (9) picks.  The value varies for the middle infielders.  Roberts and Figgins (eligible at 2B in Y! leagues) went off the board #1 and #2 in the 4th round.  A little early for me.  I think Figgins is the safer bet as he’s been the more consistent SB guy the past couple of years.  Roberts is less of a sure thing – as likely to get 30 SB as he is 50 SB.  He could live up to early 4th round value but odds are he doesn’t.  I like Carlos Guillen for the mix of HR/RBI/SB if you can get him in Rounds 5 or 6.  I could’ve had him Round 5 but went with Haren instead (over Hamels and Verlander – another ‘gut’ pick based on Haren being in the comfy NL West (vs. Verlander’s AL Central) and being a better bet for 200 IP than Hamels.  Given that Harang and Kazmir lasted until my #6 pick, it might’ve paid to pick Guillen instead.  Jeter went in the 4th round – too high for a guy who is lucky to crack 20 HRs or SBs.  As for pitching, starters move fast.  The top two tiers of starting pitchers near exhaustion by end of Round #6.  For relievers, our league started slow (no Putz or Papelbon until Round #5) but Nathan and K-Rod were snapped up by the end of the 6th.

Rounds 7-9: This is a transition segment when people start factoring ‘need’ into the general ‘value’ equation.  The values in this segment include SPs like F-Her/Dice-K/Vazquez, RPs like Saito/Rivera and OFs like Torii/Hawpe/Delmon Young/Vernon Wells (I just missed out on Torii in the 7th round as Brock for Broglio – whose draft was on autopick for 8 rounds – chose him as his 5th OF at the time.  It was like drafting with Jim Bowden when he GM’d the Reds and would stockpile OFs like they were firewood).  Speed guys jumped into this segment starting with Victorino (7th), Pierre (9th) and Ellsbury (9th).  I don’t love my pick of Pierre here but he’s the only one of the three that wasn’t picked 2+ rounds earlier than projected so there’s some value there.  Be warned if you don’t draft speed in the first 6 rounds – you may need to reach.  While I don’t love the middle IF value, Tejada (7th), Weeks (8th), and Kendrick (9th) all went according to ADP projections.  Hardy in the 8th round was a big reach – especially given that Khalil and Peralta lasted 6 more rounds.  The good thing, though, is Hardy is well-experienced in solving such mysteries.

Rounds 10-12:  Round #10 was a magical round in my league last year with Beckett, Haren, Ordonez, and Hunter all picked.  The only potential money pick in this draft is Liriano who is a worthwhile gamble as a 3rd starter that could end up being your ace.  RPs were still going cheap in the first two rounds – Wagner and F. Cordero in the 10th round, Jenks and Soriano in the 11th – only to become exhausted in the 12th when Hoffman, Streeet, Soria, Lidge, and Capps all came off.  My favorite of that 12th round bunch is Capps.  Street is too injury prone.  Lidge is injured.  Soria’s ok.  Some awful MI picks in my opinion w/ Renteria and Cabrera in the 10th and 11th.  They could earn these spots but projections have them much later.  The ‘speed reach’ continued in this round as Taveras and Bourn went in the 12th round.  On the SP front, if you’re like me and draft two starters in the top 5, these are the rounds you target #3.  I was happy with Burnett at #11.  I liked Pedro and Maine as well but couldn’t stand to root for a 2nd Met starter after drafting Johan.

Rounds 13-15:  You’ve got to consider needs at this point – both fulfilling yours and anticipating those of the other teams.  I was hoping for a bargain price on Kelly Johnson, Polanco, or Aaron Hill only to find them picked close to their value during this segment.  I was very happy to get Khalil in the 14th round to fill my SS spot – I think he’s the best value play at the position given he’s expected to be top 3 in HR/RBI.  There are still some closers to be had around now – I liked Corpas, Chad Cordero, and Izzy in the 13th round.  This is when, ideally, you’re looking for a 4th starter.  If you only have two, I’d draft two in this segment.  Nice mix of value bets (Pedro, Bonderman, Buchholz) and solid pitchers in Billingsley, McGowan, Hudson, Lilly, Penny, Snell, and Wainwright.

Rounds 16-18: Drafts aren’t made in this segment but the better teams will see 2 or all 3 of their picks on their roster (or at least a roster) by end of year.  I was hoping for old reliable D-Lowe in the 16th and had to settle on less reliable, more exciting Philip Hughes.  Love the value on Kouzmanoff in #17 and Youkilis in #18.  Filled my CI and UTIL before the pickings got slimmer.  The ugly and speculative closers starting coming off the board in Todd Jones in #17 and Borowski and CJ Wilson in #18.

Rounds 19-26: It’s just a bargain bin at this point.  I like to get a couple of middle relievers in these rounds and was happy with Heath Bell and Benoit.  You shouldn’t be filling any major positions in these rounds.  I was stuck on 2B and rode it out to take a dirty pick in Freddie Sanchez.  Ugly but do you think his stats will be different than Orlando Cabrera’s other than 10-15 SB?  You do NOT want to go into this round with 3 or less OFs…just saying.  A lot of OF prospects taken – hard to say if any will pan out.  Jay Bruce in round #19.  Cameron Maybin in round #20 (loved him in The Practice), Justin Upton (who actually went in round #17).  I’m quite happy to snag Melky Cabrera in #21 for a potential 15/20 year with decent R/RBI/AVG.  Pettitte provides 15 win potential at a cheap price – cheap enough that I could bench him against Boston and Detroit w/ no hesitations.  A few players took a 4th MI in these rounds – that’s dumb if you ask me.  Stock up on pitchers (I ended up with 11) and make sure you’ve got a 6th OF either in UTIL or the Bench.  I went with Austin Kearns hoping that the new park is the opposite of its predecessor.  Because of the dumb 4th MI picks, I had to reach all the way down for Jayson Nix on COL.  Hoping to catch lightning in the bottle – more likely to catch Barmes.

Summary:
Don’t fall under the misconception that starting pitching is undervalued in 12-team mixed leagues.  It’s only the top 3-5 that are.  I think Santana, Peavy, and Webb all offer 1st round value given their past performance, health, and divisions.  If you want a top 20 starter, you’re going to have to take one in the first 7 rounds.  If you’re banking on 5 starters, you should have it sewn up by round 16 or 17.

The #1 most speculated thing in drafts is speed.  Draft based on realistic expectations.  Reyes getting 55 SB, Hanley getting 40 SB, Sizemore getting 30 SB, etc.  If a guy isn’t a sure bet for 30 SB, watch out.  20-25 SB turns into 10 SB pretty quick – just takes a tender hamstring.  SBs are important but it’s just one category.  Just b/c a guy is 20/20 doesn’t mean you’re not sacrificing R/RBI/AVG by taking them.

1B and OF go fast.  Try and get the best value you can.  Don’t wait too long or you put your team at a big disadvantage.

Middle infield is almost all overvalued after the 1st round.  If you can find good value, invest a top 10 round pick on it.  Otherwise, look for value plays like Khalil, Peralta, Kelly Johnson, etc.  You can do worse than to pick Johnson and Greene at #13 and #14.  And never draft a 4th middle infielder unless you plan on trading one with significant trade value.

No need to rush on closers.  It’s probably best to let Putz and Papelbon get picked if only to ensure you don’t overestimate your league’s appetite for relievers.  Once they are off, I’d target K-Rod or Nathan.  If you can get a 2nd top 10 reliever in the 9th or 10th round, go for it.  If you can get a solid reliever in the 13th or later round, do it.  Relievers are the opposite of new cars – they get more value once you drive them off the lot.

While free agency can help fill in deep slots like 4th and 5th OF, UTIL, etc., you can’t bank on this in a 12 team league.  Going with prospects here isn’t bad but 1st year OFs have spotty track records at best (espec. w/ AVG).  I think I found very good value for these slots with Damon, Cabrera, and Youkilis.

Lastly, go through several simulations and mock drafts before your actual draft.  Determine several scenarios for rounds 1-5 and look for value over assumed need.  Know the slots where you’ll find value in later rounds so you’re not hunting for exhausted positions like 1B and OFs when the pickings are slim.  And, while it’s cliché, try to stay just ahead of the curve and anticipate runs at a certain position.  Hopefully the above info helps in that regard.

Please feel free to post feedback on my team, my advice, or ask general draft questions…