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Carlos Santana is getting a 2010 fantasy baseball rookie post because I know people will ask about him.  See, I’m psychic.  BTW, I wouldn’t bring in the mail today.  Just a bunch of bills and a 20% off coupon for Bed, Bath and Beyond.  Carlos Santana is the catcher prospect the Dodgers traded to the Indians for Casey Blake.  TMZ reported Jamie McCourt did the aforementioned trade because Carlos Santana looks eerily similar to Edward James Olmos, who was Frank McCourt’s reason for watching “every single, goddamn Miami Vice rerun.”  Only later did Mrs. McCourt find out that that was the wrong Carlos Santana.  At 23, Carlos Santana just finished up his best season in the minor leagues slashing .290/.413/.530 at Double-A.  Showing solid plate discipline, he walked more times than he struckout.  He knocked in 97 RBIs and hit 23 homers in 130 games and was named the 2009 Eastern League Most Valuable Player Award after winning the 2008 California League MVP.  (Scouting the Unknown went over Carlos Santana’s minor league numbers in further detail.)  So can Carlos Santana help you in 2010 fantasy baseball?

There’s no reason for the Indians to rush Santana.  His defense is shoddy with a chance of meatballs.  I don’t think we see him until June 1st at the earliest.  If he breaks camp with the team, he’ll be a quality sleeper in mixed leagues, 12 or deeper.  But really that’s only true because of his position.  If he were in the outfield, I’d tell you to ignore him in mixed leagues.  Best case scenario, 60/13/75/.280 in 400 at-bats.  Actually, now that I write that down, that seems pretty implausible.  (Sidenote:  As with most of these rookie posts, I wrote them about a month ago then reread them to make sure they’re still, ya know, gold.  Since I wrote this, Bill James’s projections have arrived.  He has Santana down for 16 homers in 500 at-bats.  Now that seems implausible.)  If Santana starts the year in the minors, he should be ignored in all leagues, except AL-Only and keeper ones.  In mixed leagues, you don’t want to hold an extra catcher for two months waiting for him to come up.  If you think you do, ask someone who drafted Matt Wieters last year.  Game, set, natch.

  1. Steve says:
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    Loving the liberal use of ‘slash’.

    That’s all I got.

  2. Tony says:
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    OH CLEVELAND, always rebuilding, who’s going next? When’s Gradys contract up? Why did i have to be born in OHIO and root for all these god awful teams? oh well, go tribe, lets hope C-Santana is as studly as i’ve heard….

  3. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve: Thanks!

    @Tony: You also got Chisenhall and Carrasco. Keep your chin up.

  4. Tony says:
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    @Grey: wow slow day…..

  5. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Tony: The enthusiasm for Cleveland prospects is at a fever pitch.

  6. sean says:
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    Had a chance to watch Santana play for Akron in New Britain, CT. He’s shorter and bulkier than advertised (5’10/200+). His game management, staff management, and overall defense is really weak. Good thing that doesn’t count in 5×5.

    A switch-hitting catcher with good power and plate discipline is as rare as a Cambodian Forest Ox. He’s worth monitoring, but I think he’ll end up as a C/1B/DH type. The good news is that Cleveland doesn’t have an incumbent guy at any of those positions that can’t be bumped.

    Best result: think Kung-Fu Panda.

  7. big o says:
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    lou marson can actually catch the ball
    and calls a decent game .

    maybe 2011 for santana .

  8. big o says:
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    bill james’ projections should be published
    in comic book form .

  9. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @sean: Yeah, agreed. He’s all bat. But an “all bat” at catcher is definitely worth monitoring, as you said.

    @big o: Don’t think we have to wait that long for him. re: James — ha!

  10. Russ says:
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    Did a mock draft last night. What do you think?

    C-Wieters
    1B-Gonzalez
    2B-Zobrist or Stewart
    3B-Sandoval
    SS-Hanley
    OF-Granderson, Bruce, Dye, Reimold (Zobrist)
    Util-Reyes

    SP-Lester, Peavy, Jimenez, Danks, Sancez, Liriano
    RP-Wilson, Capps, Qualls

    Reyes was my 2nd pick, got him at 23rd overall. Peavy I got at the end of the 8th round.

    What do you think?

  11. Russ says:
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    Speaking of Bill James–he’s got Reimold on par with Ethier, except for SB–which he has Reimold getting low double digits (better than Ethier)!

    Is that even remotely realistic?

  12. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Russ: 12 teams then, huh? Very solid team for that deep. You’re like Mini Me with your choices on pitchers. Very solid on Ks and question marks elsewhere… I like to go that way, as well. Would’ve liked to see one more solid outfielder. Dye and Reimold aren’t terrible, but coupled with Bruce they’re a bit risky. Dye, in particular, I’m not a huge fan of. Overall real solid though.

  13. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Russ: Possible, not realistic.

  14. Russ says:
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    “@Russ: 12 teams then, huh? Very solid team for that deep. You’re like Mini Me with your choices on pitchers. Very solid on Ks and question marks elsewhere… I like to go that way, as well. Would’ve liked to see one more solid outfielder. Dye and Reimold aren’t terrible, but coupled with Bruce they’re a bit risky. Dye, in particular, I’m not a huge fan of. Overall real solid though.”

    –SP and OF I don’t go crazy about–’cause there’s always guys who come out of nowhere. And I hate reaching for closers. Peavy I like at his draft slot ’cause Gallardo and Kershaw went 2 and 5 picks after him. I think they’re a reach in round 8. But peavy could be a steal in round 8. Papelbon, Broxton, Nathan, Rivera and KRod all went by round 8. insanity!

    speaking of…Choo went in the 5th round. that’s crazy. the next OF’s drafted after him: carlos lee, bourn, b.j upton, ethier, manny, victorino, granderson, soriano, abreu, cruz, adam jones, mclouth, pence…just to name a few. that has to be the worst pick of the draft, no? (i know you don’t see the draft, but could you think of a worse pick?)

  15. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Russ: I agree with everything you said re: SPs and OFs. Dye’s a pain in the ass because he’s a big enough name where you wouldn’t want to drop him, but you’re also not going to want to own him. It’s just a mock though.

    re: Choo — There’s 11 to 12 guys out of 13 I’d want from that list before Choo.

    EDIT: Word.

  16. Russ says:
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    @Russ: I agree with everything you said re: SPs and OFs. Dye’s a pain in the ass because he’s a big enough name where you wouldn’t want to drop him, but you’re also not going to want to own him. It’s just a mock though.

    –even if it was a real draft, I wouldn’t hesitate to drop Dye or any my OFs if they had a bad 1st month (or try to trade them for a so-so RP who may become a closer). so many are a dime a dozen, and even the guarantees don’t work out (think of the laundry list of “elite” OFs drafted in ’09 who were injured or underperformed).

  17. airlifting says:
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    mock drafts already? good lord.

  18. matthole says:
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    lincecum cy young

  19. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @matthole: Thanks for the heads up! That makes sense. Wonder if he’ll do the news conference while eating a bag of Doritos.

  20. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    p.s.
    buddy miles MADE carlos santana .

  21. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: And the California Raisins.

  22. matthole says:
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    @Grey: HA! i respect that hes a functional stoner

  23. sean says:
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    After a couple months to mourn, I’m ready to exhume my 2009 fantasy rosters and attempt to identify my mistakes and think about draft day strategy for 2010.

    I don’t have to go any further than my first 10 picks to see what went wrong:
    (3) David Wright, 3B — useless
    (18) Prince Fielder, 1B
    (23) Carlos Quentin, OF — useless
    (38) Alex Rios, OF — useless
    (43) Brandon Phillips, 2B
    (58) Shane Victorino, OF — weak
    (63) Joey Votto, CI — low ABs
    (78) Chad Billingsley, SP
    (83) Stephen Drew, SS — useless
    (98) James Shields, SP — weak

  24. sean says:
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    My middle 10 picks were slightly better. I have to add the caveat that I dropped Reynolds in the first month of the season, and that I traded Ibanez for Kemp in June.

    (103) Raul Ibanez, OF — lucky stab
    (118) Adam Wainwright, SP — solid
    (123) Francisco Cordero, RP — solid
    (138) BJ Ryan, RP — useless
    (143) Lastings Milledge, OF — useless
    (158) Ervin Santana, SP — speculative garbage
    (163) Josh Johnson, SP — solid
    (178) Brandon Morrow, RP — shockingly terrible
    (183) Mark Reynolds, U — looks like I’m the donkey here
    (198) Brandon Lyon, RP

  25. Tony says:
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    @Russ: choo in the 5th is ridiculous, and over the other OF’ers you named, just dumb….

    musta been a cleveland homer, hahah…

  26. sean says:
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    Last 1/3 of the roster looked like, well, the last 1/3 of a roster

    (203) Kelly Shoppach, C
    (218) Jarrod Saltalamacchia, C
    (223) Felipe Lopez, MI
    (238) Leo Nunez, BN
    (243) Aaron Cook, BN
    (258) Carlos Villanueva, BN
    (263) Jeremy Guthrie, BN
    (278) Jose Arredondo, BN
    (283) Colby Rasmus, BN

    I was able to get Zobrist, Wolf, and Stewart off of waivers early. Thankfully, at least I could put a team together because of that. I was consistently carried through the middle of the pack because I had 3-4 guys hot in most months, but ultimately I finished a distant 4th in a 10-team CBS league.

  27. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @sean: Yeah, the top of your draft really killed you. It’s hard to make up that ground when guys that should come around just don’t.

  28. Russ says:
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    Wright was drafted in the middle of the 2nd round in the mock I participated in last night. Even if he only hits 20 homers, that’s a nice value pick, cause the rest of his numbers should still be better than every other 3B besides Arod and Longoria. I’d definitely target him in an auction draft, especially if you can name him a keeper.

    From what I gather, Johan isn’t going for much of a discount (he was the 4th pitcher drafted in the same mock, and it was only the 2nd round). Metco must be keeping people high on him.

  29. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Russ: re: Wright — I’ll need to do a post on him, but I’m not high on him. re: Johan — I found the opposite in my two ‘pert drafts. I actually drafted him in the 5th round in one.

  30. Shmorgie S. Board says:
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    I wonder if the dead writer version of Frank McCourt often/ever confused Carlos Santana with Tito Puente?

    Larry King says, “I saw both Carlos Santana and Tito Puente perform, ‘Oye Como Va?’ and I can tell you they were both right…”

    This is what I got out of the rest of this piece:
    “Blah blah blah punt catcher blah blah blah”

  31. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Shmorgie S. Board: Larry King’s a connoisseur on so many things, I believe it.

  32. big o says:
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    q1
    1

    Nightmare Fuel

    2

    freak

    q2
    3

    oldrungo

    q1
    4

    chata

    q1
    5

    brett.

    6

    REV12

    7

    GopherDay

    q1
    8

    KyleJames101

    9

    Simply Fred

    10

    Dexter

    11

    caveman clubbers

    12

    SteveL

    this are the drafters in the 2nd annual razzball slow mock draft .
    the draft starts @10 pm on the 22nd .

  33. Steve says:
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    I hope the draft doesn’t take as long as it took to scroll through that comment ;-)

  34. big o says:
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    *this = these
    sorry about the cut-and – paste job .

    prior to the start of the mock ,
    draft order will be determined .

  35. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: Cool, make sure to keep me updated.

  36. brett says:
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    Question: Will it be frowned upon if i’m not at my computer on Sunday night? I’ll do my best to queue up two rounds worth of players, but nobody’s expecting to fire through the first five rounds or anything like that, right?

  37. Steve says:
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    @brett: Nah. Just queue up what you can. It’s pretty relaxed. We’ll just talk s*** with each another until your pick rolls round again ;-)

  38. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: Miggy or A-rod?

  39. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @GopherDay: A-rod, but it’s very close.

  40. Russ says:
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    @Russ: re: Wright — I’ll need to do a post on him, but I’m not high on him. re: Johan — I found the opposite in my two ‘pert drafts. I actually drafted him in the 5th round in one.

    –I’m not high on Wright either. My main league, which is an auction draft where every team names four keepers (for the following three seasons) keeping him at 2/3 or even 1/2 of his historical price would be hard to turn down. In a snake draft, I wouldn’t draft him in the 2nd round–so I agree with you there.

    –As far as the ‘perts–that doesn’t surprise me too much, ’cause I think most of ya’ll are afraid of his falling strikeout rate. I think johan still holds a strong allure with the casual drafter.

  41. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Russ: re: Johan — Maybe, but it’s also coupled with most experts refuse to draft pitchers.

  42. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: I will generally stay away from Johan, just because his name value requires a high price. If I can get him later on I’ll pounce on it immediately!

  43. GopherDay says:
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    @GopherDay: Thats what I figured, but it sure is a close call.

  44. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @GopherDay: A-Rod’s steals are what pushes him over the top.

  45. GopherDay says:
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    @Grey: And 1B is much deeper than 3B this season.

  46. brett says:
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    @Grey: So if it’s “very close” are you saying Miggy’s a relatively early first round pick, or is A-Rod falling in your books?

  47. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @brett: I’m saying I like Miggy but A-Rod’s slightly above him if I were drafting right now.

  48. brett says:
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    Fair enough. I’m having a hard time placing Cabrera that high without his 3B eligibility but i guess to his credit he’s about as consistent as they come.

  49. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    i’m sensing more anxious-ness this year , compared to last .
    maybe it’s just that more of these “types” are being attracted
    to your site .
    obviously , i’m not the only one that finds the wait excruciating .
    how do you read the current “state of the union” ?
    are you expert-types rarin’ to go ??
    will this be a shortened holiday-movie season ???
    seems a shame (?) , as thanksgiving day is the grand opening of
    the lastest ninja/killer blood-fest .
    tra-la-la-la-la .

  50. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: I don’t sense any anxiousness, not sure what you mean.

  51. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    rank these 3 , please .
    howard , teixeira , cabrera .

    is there anything , short of an off-season injury ,
    that would prompt you to change your ranking ?

  52. brett says:
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    @big o: No love for Prince?

  53. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @big o: Howard, Miggy then Tex. There’s things that could change that besides injury.

  54. big o says:
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    @brett:
    i also didn’t ask him to rank pujols .

  55. kent says:
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    What do you think about Freese at 3rd base?

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