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Ahh, I remember the Midway, it was fun it was like an air show but instead of crashes there were bullets.  I was just informed by Jay that statement is both wrong and wrong.  Moving on as graceful as Martha Graham.  So  I was actually thankful for a few days off, unhappy I didn’t make the all-star team, but I’m told that poor vocabulary and lack of knowledge of the home row keys are not determining stats that merit all-stardom.  Holds are fun, I don’t care what you say, if that makes me a loser for rooting for a fake stat, then I’m a loser.  This guys help your team though even if you don’t play in a Holds or NSVH league.  I am being serious.  I am the Will I am Tell of the loogy business.  Let’s check out my four up and four down for the closers in the second half, and stay around after that for some set-up news and blues.

Closers I Like For Second Half:

1. Aroldis Chapman

2. Cody Allen

3. Joe Nathan

4. Jonathan Papelbon

Closers I Dislike For Second Half:

1. Huston Street

2. Koji Uehara

3. Zach Britton

4. Jenrry Mejia

  • Hot teams breed lots of children….and by children I mean Holds.  Darren O’Day seems to have pulled together his best Angela Basset.  Over the last 14 days, he is the thoroughbred in holds with 6.  Boasting 10 consecutive underscored upon appearances yielding only 4 hits and a 15/2 K/BB rate.
  • Jordan Walden has looked nice lately.  I mean, if he had a tailored suit and a red carpet to lay out as Kimbrel, like a valet, he would get a raise.  Four Holds in the last 10 games and a decent K rate too boot somewhere north of 13, which I hear is still unlucky except for strikeouts.
  • J.P. Howell has been the glue in the backend of the Dodgers pen. Kenley and the Beard get all the notice, but Howell is quietly getting it done.  Why so quiet because he isn’t a K dominant reliever.  That’s unfortunate because his IR scored rate is sick and 19 Holds on the year is pretty rad.
  • For those looking for a reboot on Holds, look at Brett Cecil, even though the Jays pen is so messy.  He just returned from the DL, and someone needs to step up.  Brett, see that guy over there rooting for you,  it’s not me but it is the whole province of Ontario crammed into one person.

 

Player Holds/BS Appearances with Lead In. Runners/IR Scored
Brad Zielgler 24/4 29 17/6
Tony Watson 22/4 30 8/2
Will Smith 21/5 34 25/6
Tyler Clippard 19/3 25 3/0
J.P. Howell 19/0 25 26/2
Joba Chamberlain 18/2 28 7/1
Wade Davis 17/2 22 5/2
Joaquin Benoit 16/0 22 3/2
Brett Cecil 15/1 22 24/8
Casey Fien 15/1 23 14/2
Luke Gregerson 15/6 29 19/8
Adam Ottavino 15/2 22 24/7
Jonathan Broxton 14/4 25 9/1
Mike Dunn 14/1 17 18/4
Darren O’Day 14/3 28 23/6
Manny Parra 14/1 21 23/6
Jeremy Affeldt 14/1 21 19/4
Adam Warren 14/2 24 21/5
Pat Neshek 13/2 22 23/6

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  1. FBV says:
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    Is Ken Giles going to be “the man” once Papelbon goes West?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @FBV: I would like him to be electric stuff. I think Bastardo gets traded as well. They may go to a committe approach with Diekman, DeFrautus and Giles at first.

  2. Gonzo_The_Great says:
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    Does your dislike of Street stem from the thought that he’s going to be on another team or that he’s play over his head? (or both?)

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Gonzo_The_Great: completely has to do with him going to another team and being a set-up, though he has pitched well for basically a year and three quaters so over his head has gone unnoticed a little bit

  3. Paz says:
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    how do you feel about Joe Smith for the second half? there are an awful lot of rumors about the Halos trading for a closer…

    • doc says:
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      @Paz: just heard on Jay Mohr sports that the Padres are talking with the halos about a deal involving street

      • Pistol Pete says:
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        @doc: Jay Mohr is slightly better at sports talk radio than he is at comedy. I’ll leave it at that.

        But, yes, the Padres and Angels have been trying to work out a number of deals for a while now. Street moving north wouldn’t shock me much.

      • Smokey

        Smokey says:
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        @doc: lol Jay Mohr, prolly doing his best work since the movie Mafia or the early NY days of Opie and Anthony

        • Furious says:
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          @Smokey: I saw Mafia in the theaters, great time.

        • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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          @Smokey: that show he was in was good. Action.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Paz: I think the Angels bring in a experienced closer and Smith and the other guys flip flop for awhile until Scoscia fallas in love with the new guy.

  4. doc says:
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    Just was offered his Harper/Casey jannssen for my Justin Upton/Ziegler. Grey had mentioned in his top 100 that he Upton/Harper is a bit of a toss up. Janssen is clearly an upgrade as he has the closer gig. What are your thought? I could counter for McGee of janssen instead also.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @doc: it’s fair, would rather have Janssen than Ziegler if not a holds league. If holds league I would sit tight

  5. hermit says:
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    is it worth dropping Cishek to pick up Cody Allen? Cishek has struggled a little recently but typically as reliable as they get. Can we predict that Cody’s peripherals will remain strong? Seems like having a closer on a team that is trying to make playoffs is better than the other way around.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @hermit: in all honesty how is Allen on waivers, he should be owned everywhere. Gotta have another drop candidate?

  6. Brett says:
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    Looking to move a closer can you rank joe smith rosenthal McGee Jansen

    Thanks

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Brett: I have Rosey above Smith, McGee, Janssen. Im scared to rank Smith higher then a guy not in any position to be replaced in 2 weeks by a deadline deal for a closer

      • Brett says:
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        @Smokey: smokey would you move smith for someone like gio then? How likely do you think it is smith loses his job? Btw my closers are kanley jansen rosenthal McGee smith

        • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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          @Brett: of course move a possibly job losing closer for a SP as good as Gio.

        • Smokey

          Smokey says:
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          @Brett: heck yes act fast

  7. Teddy Heater says:
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    Smokey,
    Always love when you throw down the holds guys! I have Benoit, Walden and newly acquired Boxberger, dropped W Smith because he’s been getting shelled. Should I grab Smith up again, Cecil, Varvaro or what about Giles?

    • Smokey

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      @Teddy Heater: Thanks, Benoit and Walden are def roster keeps for ya. Smith is an intriguing guy he has the most appearances of any non-closer in baseball, i know it’s an under-rated stat and one not many people look at but that’s where his stats are. That and K’s. If you dropped him mid 9 ER in a week debacle then goos, I still think he has a ton of value for a team streaming towards a division title.

      • Teddy Heater says:
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        @Smokey: Thanks mang! Any take on Giles? Grey thinks he might be moving to close if Papelbon gets moved and his stuff looks nasty. Looks like they moved him up to 7 & 8 inning duties couple holds in the last week.

        • Smokey

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          @Teddy Heater: Yea I have said the same, though I think Diekman and Defrautus will get some immediatre looks before Giles settles in

          • Teddy Heater says:
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            @Smokey: I like the confidence you have in Allen, but in the infamous words of my man Trevor Bauer says it best…. “Cody Allen turn the heat up!

  8. Troy says:
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    Is Cotts the go-to guy for holds in Texas with the Frasor trade?

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Troy: It’s Cotts, Tolleson and Feliz for holds ownability there for me right now. Feliz could gain some value if he pitches well though

  9. Joeg414 says:
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    I have both Britton and Mejia -so I hope your wrong. I’m trying to deal for a third Closer: maybe Nathan or Casilla. Both prices seem high. If I can’t do a deal which two free agents should I pickup: Feliz , Tazawa or Mujica ? Or maybe all three( if I can fit them)? 6×6 mixed roto

    • Smokey

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      @Joeg414: Feliz for sure. I am hearing mixed things on Uehara being dealt and I don’t think he does.

  10. fausto says:
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    Should I be grabbing benoit Sunday when I get my weekly moves? In case Street is traded.
    Also own joe smith, any chance grilli takes that job?
    Just prepping myself for a weekly h2h league went all rp added giles and betances last week took sv 13-4 and had 0.64era 0.76 whip.(This was my only move bc his sp is topps in the league. ) took 3 of 5 pitching cats
    4 of 5 hitting.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @fausto: Benoit yes, Grilli no. I think the Angels are bringing in someone street nor papelbon so Grilli’s value drops

  11. J Boy says:
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    Who would you drop – Balfour or Giles? Note, I have McGee. Other option would be to dump Estrada or Cuddyer assuming he’s going to be fairly useless this season?

    Thanks

    • Smokey

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      @J Boy: Balfour. Rather go with expected saves not blown saves.

  12. Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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    1. who’s best 3 names for saves or holds? petricka/ziegler/boxberger/jepsen/fien/rondon/dunn/miller/joba/ramirez/shaw/vic black.
    i already have petricka/ziegler/perkins. i could either go 3 RP and 8 SP like i am now, or 4 RP and 7 SP. this is H2H so i’ll likely keep the 8 SP. since this is 16 team league saves might be harder to come by, if so winning them would be easier, and if that’s true, then rondon/perkins with 1 hold guy. but either way i’m thinking most total holds/saves will overall be better.
    2. 20 team H2H dynasty (keep up to 25 per year forever) with holds/k to 9/ and RW as categories. i have Cotts/Putnam as 2 of 7 RP. If Cotts gets traded i’m worried his value goes down, and putnam’s value may be shrinking as we speak.
    If those 2 things come to pass, who’s best replacements. saves in this league too.
    brach/j.diaz/leclure/ondrusek/marshall/surkamp/duensing/burton/swarzak/hardy (new name to me, along with jumbo, good stats so far)

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @Montezuma’s Revenge… right now:
      1. Ziegler Fien Jensen. Lots of good options in there tho. Love Vic Black for second half.
      2. I think Cotts value goes up depending on trade spot. Mostly a list of 2nd to lower third options. I actually like what I have seen from jumbo and hardy so far. Need to see then in more advanced leverage situations

      • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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        @Smokey: 2.yeah, since this is keep forever, and Cotts sticks with value, i’m supposing fairly soon here it’ll be Putnam who’s the drop. his stats suck and not too long Lindstrom back anyway.

        in #1. i may have phrased question wrong. saves and holds are separate categories here but we don’t have very many total bench spots to be able to have both a decent amount of SP and RP. so i have Perkins for saves, and currently ziegler/petricka in addition. so it sounds like keep ziegler/perkins, but should i go with 2nd closer (rondon or petricka), or 2nd holds guy (looks like fien or jepsen if so)?

          • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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            @Smokey: fien and rondon got sucked up since i last posted. hold jepsen or go with one of
            boxberger/dunn/miller/joba/ramirez/shaw/vic black.

            • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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              @Montezuma’s Revenge… right now: i got leagues mixed up on this question. in this one i have petricka/perkins/ziegler, so it would be petricka or one of those holds guys. and i still can stash lindstrom in that league. it is still saves/holds choices to replace petricka are jepsen/peralta/joba/walden/gregerson/farquar/vic b./ramirez/miller/shaw/boxberger, not that list above.

  13. baseball says:
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    14 team h2h. I have j smith and jepsen who got 5 saves and 4 holds last week. If they get street or Pap, should I hold smith for holds and will jepsen still be involved or dump him? Or try to move smith now bc my league values closers more for some reason. I have Rodney and Mcgee.

    • Smokey

      Smokey says:
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      @baseball: don’t drop Smith yet. Jepsens value takes a hit. I would sell Smith quick.

      • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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        @Smokey: they probably value closers more since there are way fewer of them at any given time.

  14. Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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    NL only with RW and holds and net saves.
    i have ramirez/chapman/fear the beard/walden/dunn as my RP. just added dunn when i saw gregg got hurt. hold or drop one of them for wil smith, who was just dropped for somebody to pick up quakenbush, even thought smith plays for a winning team and gets holds (a lot of them). smith’s been bad lately but he was really good before that and i’ll take the holds.

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