Comments on: Brandon Phillips, 2009 Fantasy Outlook

By: Grey

Grey — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:27:16 +0000

@big o: Didn't think it needed a response. It sounded like you were making a statement.

By: big o

big o — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:49:29 +0000

@Grey:
come on now.
just trying to provoke a response.

hello ?

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:46:15 +0000

@BaronVonVulturewins: Hey Baron - it's been awhile...

By: Grey

Grey — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:01:07 +0000

@Freak: You're totally right. Adding it now.

By: Freak

Freak — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:48:34 +0000

There should be a “draft” subforum.

By: BaronVonVulturewins

BaronVonVulturewins — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:57:33 +0000

@Rudy Gamble: You won me over with Carlos BuyerBewarega.

By: big o

big o — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:01:08 +0000

@Grey:
i’m sure there’s a sign around here , somewhere , that says not to feed the wild animals .
but , here goes ===> exactly what is your problem with short pricks ?
peedy has shown that his balls can dwarf the tallest of monsters .
does that not satisfy you ?
does not your cup runneth over with shots from this little squirt ?
no one’s asking you to be head towel boy , just recognize the mammoth size of his potent bat .

durability makes him the 1st 2nd baseman off the board this time around.

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:43:11 +0000

@Anyone who is interested: There’s a new installment of Steve & Hippo’s Excellent Adventure in the forum.

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:32:13 +0000

@Grey: New glossary term for you - Pedroia Paranoia: Fear that a middle infielder coming off a great year is bound to regress horribly. Also known as the Bret Boone Swoon or Carlos BuyerBewarega.

By: Rudy Gamble

Rudy Gamble — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:25:48 +0000

@Grey: Marcel projections say Pedroia is more valuable than Phillips. CHONE says Phillips. I’m waiting until i finish up the Point Shares in February to officially make the call but

I’m leaning towards Pedroia b/c the only given b/w these two is that Pedroia will crush him average (the Marcel and CHONE Point Shares are saying that in a 10-team league, their average difference would equal 1.8 points – that’s a LOT of points…). Add his Run advantage and I don’t think Phillips will make that up in HR, RBI, and SB….

By: Grey

Grey — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:19:54 +0000

@Tony B.: It's all good.

By: Tony B.

Tony B. — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:18:52 +0000

Why the hell did I not post this in the Forum? I’m sorry Grey, I don’t know what I was thinking here…

By: Grey

Grey — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:18:46 +0000

@Tony B.: I'd send Howard back and keep Alexei. Then if you wanted to grab a 1st baseman, I'd grab Adrian Gonzalez, Votto, Davis or Lee, in that order. If you just wanted to go for the best overall player, I'd grab Carlos Lee.

By: Tony B.

Tony B. — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:12:20 +0000

Grey:

I currently have this option in my keeper league:

Keep Alexei Ramirez 2B/SS/OF Round 23

Keep Ryan Howard 1B Round 1

Simple rules… you keep that player in that round, you get no pick that round during the draft…

My other definite keepers are:

Sizemore Round 2
Longoria Round 21
Holliday Round 3
Lincecum Round 6
Billingsley Round 12

I was originally leaning all day to Ramirez but when looking at my league, if I chose to let Howard go back, I would have no chance at re-drafting him as I have the 5th and last pick of round 1 if I let him go back. In our league’s round 1, only 5 owners have picks (10 teams overall). In round 2, 7 owners have picks, in round 3, 6 owners have picks, and my next pick would not come until the 1st pick overall of round 4. These are the types of players available if I chose to send Howard back:

Derrek Lee
Adrian Gonzalez
Chris Davis
Joey Votto
Aramis Ramirez
Manny Ramirez
Carlos Quentin
Ichiro
Carl Crawford
Carlos Lee
Vladimir Guerrero
Alex Rios
David Ortiz
Carlos Pena

Keep Howard or keep the White Sox Swiss Army Knife of Eligibility?

By: Grey

Grey — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:32:33 +0000

@bfadds: Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I agree. A pick of someone like Nick Markakis is better than Phillips.

By: bfadds

bfadds — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:26:12 +0000

@Grey: I never said Phillips was a "bad" pick. I'd just rather fill in the position later. I can't cite MDC's ADP because it looks like everyone's tripping acid and/or are slamming their skulls into the keyboard while drafting (Phillips' ADP is ahead of both Uggla AND Ramirez), but if I can find a more consistent bat still on the board in a deeper position (OF), then I'll take the consistency before rolling the dice rounds later on a 2B like Robinson Cano w/ a Stewart/Baker as insurance later in the draft.

By: Grey

Grey — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:10:47 +0000

@bfadds: Stewart and Baker *are* good value later on (assuming they are eligible in your league), but that doesn't mean Phillips is bad value. Phillips had a freak injury last year, where's the risk? Kinsler's lost '07 and '08 and has yet to play more than 130 games and his BABIP in '08 was a bit obscene considering his upper cut swing. Kinsler's average will come down and he is better Phillips, but not by that much. EDIT: Typo, cuz.

By: bfadds

bfadds — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:01:38 +0000

@Grey: He's probably more like the 5th off the board. I know Alexei Ramirez is the ChiSox SS for the start of 2009, but he's still eligible in a majority of fantasy leagues. I agree that you put Uggla above him, but I also believe Kinsler (20-20 with the average Phillips is missing) and Utley fit in above Phillips. Also, as I mentioned the other day, the Rockies have two guys (Ian Stewart and Jeff Baker) who'll be eligible at 2B in most fantasy leagues that I would rather take a look at later on in drafts than wasting a pick on a risky player like Phillips or a Rickie Weeks earlier on.

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:46:34 +0000

@Grey: Yeah, Couchmanagers:

http://www.couchmanagers.com/mock_drafts/index.php?draftnum=15967

It’s quick – I’ve set it up so that it’s 2 mins per pick.

It’s not that we don’t like MDC – it’s just that CM is easier from some (me!) to access.

By: Grey

Grey — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:43:10 +0000

@Steve: At Coach (Couch?) Managers? It's a fast or slow?

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:35:02 +0000

@Grey: Yup - 10. Be warned, though. It's scoop or be scooped.

By: Grey

Grey — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:33:14 +0000

@Steve: That's great value at 39. He seems to be getting lost in the Pedroia hype so I felt the need to highlight him. No worries, how many people are in it right now? 10?

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:29:54 +0000

He was the 4th 2B taken in Steve & Hippo’s Excellent Adventure, at 39 – after Utley (11), Kinsler (14) and Pedroia (17).

BTW y’all (and sorry to lurch off-topic, Grey), but there are still two spots left in the Second Razzball Commenters’ Draft that kicks off at 9pm Eastern.

Details in the forums.