Comments on: Best 2009 Fantasy Baseball Draft

By: Taylor

Taylor — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:22:43 +0000

Lineup:

LF – Alfonso Soriano
SS – Derek Jeter
1B – Albert Pujols
3B – Alex Rodriguez
RF – Ryan Braun
2B – Chase Utley
CF – Grady Sizemore
DH – Hideki Matsui
C – Brian McCann

Bench:

MI – Hanley Ramirez
CI – Mark Teixera
UOF – Brett Gardner – Speed
UIN – Mark Derosa
UC- Joe Mauer

Starting Pitcher Rotation:

SP1 – Roy Halladay
SP2 – Johan Santana
SP3 – Brandon Webb
SP4 – CC Sabathia
SP5 – Tim Lincecum

Bullpen:

MR – Johnathon Broxton
MR – Heath Bell
LR – Zach Greinke
LR – Josh Beckett
SU – Francisco Rodriguez
C – Mariano Rivera

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:19:24 +0000

@Dean: Your hitting looks okay, but it's near the bottom of the league in average. Your pitching looks solid, if maybe a bit risky.

By: Dean

Dean — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:39:57 +0000

C – Iannetta
1B – Votto
2B – Kinsler
SS – Hanley
3B – Chris Davis
CI – Alex Gordon
MI – Mike Aviles
OF – BJ Upton
OF – Nick Markakis
OF – Krispie Young
OF – Shin-Soo Choo
OF – Dukes
UT – Cust

P – James Shields
P – Gallardo
P – Vazquez
P – Grienke
P – Baker
P – Carpenter
P – Devine
P – Qualls
P – Joakim Soria

Bn – Hermida
Bn – Ian Stewart
Bn – Meche

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:37:09 +0000

@James: Tulo and Hardy are fine, Jeter and Young are bleh.

By: James

James — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:38:37 +0000

Yes, I haven’t got a chance to think about this, but I am leaning towards that side. However, Tulo, Young, Hardy, and Jeter don’t get me excited. Plus, I plan on taking other players at their ADP. Hopefully I can get Rollins or Alexei falls to me at 50.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:30:56 +0000

@James: I don't know who else will be on the board for you to choose from, but 31 is a bit early for him.

By: James

James — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:23:20 +0000

@gleeksquad and Grey – First, I love that Alexei nick name. Second, I obtained some intel today that Rollins might be picked before me in my draft. As a result, I am going to have to either reach, by using my 4th round pick (31), for Alexei in the 30s or miss out on him totally due to my draft pick. By the way, this is a keeper league, which makes the 31st pick really the 36th overall pick.

I am concerned by his free swinging ways, and don’t want to reach on a player that could regress when pitchers figure this out. What do you guys think about this concern?

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:07:08 +0000

@Paul Nebenfuhr: I'd want one more solid OF, maybe instead of Youuuuk, but overall it's a solid team. I like the F-Her pick a lot. I was trying to get him on my team, but it became impossible. @TBone: I hear ya, but I look at Broxton like this. The worst case scenario is he only gets 20 saves and has great Ks, solid WHIP and good ERA. He's been on of the top middle relievers for the last 3 years so I'm not too concerned with him. Team him up with someone like Brian Wilson and you have solid numbers and the saves you need. In the end, saves are had to predict.

By: TBone

TBone — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:58:47 +0000

One problem I see with many of the fantasy fantasy drafts, I see a lot of managers pulling for Broxton in round 10ish. First, he’s a Dodger (enough said). Although point one is sufficient to meet the burden of proof necessary to convince someone not to draft Broxton at round 10, point two: Kuo is waiting in the wings. I know Kuo has DL issues and is a lefty, but I think its conceivable he steals 5-10 saves from Broxton. Also, Kuo could arguably steal the closer’s role from Broxton, especially if Broxton continues his plight at maintaining a 4.00 ERA in the 9th and somewhat inability at nailing down lefties (I think like a 270avg). I’d go with BJ Ryan over Broxton, who you can grab somewhere around round 12 or 13. Broxton is young and could certainly prove to be the Soria of 2008, but I feel the risk a bit high given the round you need to grab him in. Obviously I’m bias given his Dodger status.

I’m also apprehensive of Clement, especially after the Griffy signing. Its seems like the Mariners don’t have a flipping clue on a forward-looking plan. Then again, when did they ever?

By: Paul Nebenfuhr

Paul Nebenfuhr — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:54:31 +0000

I’ll give it a shot…preparing for the Commentor league, and a life-time supply of Taco-Bell

C- Sandoval (14, 156-168)
1B- Chris Davis (7, 72-84)
2B- Uggla (5 48-60)
SS- Reyes (1, 1-12)
3B- Youkilis (4, 36-48)
CI- Zimmerman (10, 108-120)
MI- Aviles (18, 204-216)
OF- Beltran (2, 12-24)
OF- Bruce (8, 84-96)
OF- Milledge (12, 132-144)
OF- Ethier (13, 144-156)
OF- Choo (16, 180-192)
UT- Theriot (23 264-276)

P- Peavy (3, 24-36)
P- Lidge (6, 61-72)
P- F. Hernandez (9, 96-108)
P- Cain (11, 120-132)
P- Cueto (15, 168-180)
P- Capps (17, 192-204)
P- Arredondo (19, 216-228)
P- Parra (20, 228-240)
P- O.Perez (21, 240-252)

BE- C. Ray (22, 252-264)
BE- Lowrie (24, 276-288)
BE- A. Cook (25, 288-300)

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:47:50 +0000

@Frank Rizzo: He really is. I wrote a Votto post already:

(http://razzball.com/joey-votto-2009-fantasy-sleeper/)

The ADP for him has gone up since I wrote that, but the rest holds true.

@gleeksquad: Yeah, totally.

***There’s two new posts if people want to check them out. Or stay in this post, you guys know how to handle yourselves.

By: gleeksquad

gleeksquad — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:32:39 +0000

@Grey:Ya i copied your list and replaced mine to be all institutionalized like i know you like it. But i did double up JJ. I hear ya on Maybin b/c i’m already high on speed and upside OF.. but in the 145-156 range i took best available more then best fit.

But i do agree i could have supplemented a bit better. Again, thats why i found this so fun, u can really see where guys might fall and then think in the back of your alternatives in later rounds to complement early picks.

By: Frank Rizzo

Frank Rizzo — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:30:45 +0000

@Grey: Checked Votto's ADP for Yahoo on Mockdraftcentral and he was #81 this morning with Derek Lee being #72. Just checked it again and now Votto was #77 while Lee was #73. Also, Garrett Atkins is at #71. I'm not making this stuff up. I'm a little over a week until my draft. Is Votto really a value in the 6th/7th round?

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:24:56 +0000

@gleeksquad: Thanks for the kind words. Well, there is the RCLs where one person will be crowned the winner out of everyone. Hope you’ve joined that.

re: your team — You had me at Alexei so Sexei. Nice, solid team. Small quibble, I like Maybin too, but I think he’s more of a complement for a team that is a bit slow. Don’t think your team has that trouble. Like if you had Hardy and Uggla in the middle, then Maybin maybe. Oh, and I like Josh Johnson too, but you can only draft him once.

EDIT: Typo. Word.

By: gleeksquad

gleeksquad — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:20:25 +0000

@Grey: this was a fun exercise.. big fan of your site since i just discovered this recently.

too bad we can’t make some giant league and see who’s lineups end up on top using the every 12 picks format.. it’d be fun.

By: gleeksquad

gleeksquad — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:16:16 +0000

So I went through this, and instead of guess or being close i stictly took players based upon every 12 picks. So i stuck with 100%:
1-12;13-24;25-36;37-48;49-60;61-72;73-84;85-96;97-108;109-120;121-132;133-144
145-156;157-168;169-180;181-192;193-204;205-216;217-228;229-240;241-252;253-264;
265-276;277-288;289-300

Just did 1 run through the top 300 and came up with

C:Salty
1B:Votto
2B: Alexei so Sexei
3B:D. Wright
SS: Rollins
MI:Theriot
CI:C.Davis
OF:Kemp
OF:Bruce
OF:Milledge
OF:Maybin
OF:Cruz
UT: Elijah Dukes

P: Lackey
P: King Felix
P: Fuentes
P: Gallardo
P: J.Johnson
P: Josh Johnson
P: Gonzolez
P: Corpas
P: S. Baker

BENCH:
P: C. Ray
P: O. Dotel
OF:S. Choo

By: Nick

Nick — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:12:29 +0000

Since you guys are hyped about Votto I hope this dude accepts my Pena for his Votto. If he doesn’t know much about Votto he will probably accept. Ranks are very close and Pena’s #s were better last season for the most part (exception:average)

By: emporers monkey

emporers monkey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:36:12 +0000

I will bring the cookies, you bring the punch.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:33:24 +0000

@Tony: BTW, meant to tell you, I like your clay trophies. Especially the Amish Buggy one. Hehe... @emporers monkey: Yup, I got it bad for Votto too. We all might need to meet weekly at the community rec center.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:30:27 +0000

@ABell: Beltran side, assuming they need all of those parts.

By: emporers monkey

emporers monkey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:30:27 +0000

Yeah, Im super high on Votto this year. I think I might have to go to Votto rehab once the season begins. Most of the drafts Ive done so far he has been undervalued. Hopefully the guys in my cash league feel the same way. Actually considering reaching a few rounds early on him unless someone else is there that I can pass up.

By: ABell

ABell — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:28:48 +0000

Who gets the better of a reyes, hamels, and shoppach for beltran, soto, johan and peralta trade? 12 team H2H.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:24:06 +0000

@Josh: Extremely solid, only questionable pick is Maybin. When you have Reyes already, he seems unnecessary. Also, your starters are a bit risky. With no true #1 guy. Finally, I feel like Volstad and Maholm may be good, but they're probably just as easily on waivers. All in all though, it's solid.

By: Josh

Josh — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:15:54 +0000

C- Jeff Clement (20, 228-240)
1B- Joey Votto (5, 48-60)
2B- Brandon Phillips (2, 12-24)
SS- Jose Reyes (1, 1-12)
3B- Chris Davis (7, 72-84)
CI- Derrek Lee (6, 60-72)
MI- Stephen Drew (9, 96-108)
OF- Carlos Quentin (3, 24-36)
OF- Shane Victorino (4, 36-48)
OF- Jay Bruce (8, 84-96)
OF- Cameron Maybin (13, 144-156)
OF- Adam Lind (25, 288-300)
UT- Adam LaRoche (17, 192-204)

P- Brian Fuentes (10, 108-120)
P- Aaron Harang (11, 120-132)
P- Javier Vazquez (12, 132-144)
P- Chris Young (14, 156-168)
P- Johnny Cueto (15, 168-180)
P- Brian Wilson (16, 180-192)
P- Chris Perez (18, 204-216)
P- Scott Baker (19, 216-228)
P- Oliver Perez (21, 240-252)

BE- Dan Wheeler (22, 252-264)
BE- Chris Volstad (23, 264-276)
BE- Paul Maholm (24, 276-288)

I reached for a few guys towards the end, but I think this is how my ideal team would look. Not sure about my closer picks after Fuentes, but Wilson and Perez both have a chance for 35+ saves if they keep the job all year.

By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:07:32 +0000

Sign me up for VOTTO over derek lee anyday. He’s going to steal more bases and hit for more power and probably more average in 2009. One’s rising, one’s on his way DOWN, which would you want…. VOTTO. And Davis over Atkins is a no brainer to me as well. Atkins has been regressing for 3 years straight. Time to move on.

I agree Chris Davis, Alexie, and Votto are all getting way too hyped, but what are you going to do?

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:59:05 +0000

@emporers monkey: That team is insane.

By: emporers monkey

emporers monkey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:52:08 +0000

Here are the results to a real fantasy mock draft that I did a few days ago. I can safely say that it is definately a fantasy of mine to end up with a team like this.

10 team, yahoo mock.

1. David Wright (NYM – 3B)
2. Ryan Howard (Phi – 1B)
3. Alfonso Soriano (ChC – OF)
4. Carl Crawford (TB – OF)
5. Curtis Granderson (Det – OF)
6. Dan Haren (Ari – SP)
7. Chad Billingsley (LAD – SP)
8. Félix Hernández (Sea – SP)
9. Derek Jeter (NYY – SS)
10. Joey Votto (Cin – 1B)
11. Robinson Canó (NYY – 2B)
12. Carlos Mármol (ChC – RP)
13. B.J. Ryan (Tor – RP)
14. Nelson Cruz (Tex – OF)
15. Heath Bell (SD – RP)
16. Pablo Sandoval (SF – C,1B,3B)
17. Chris Young (SD – SP)
18. Joey Devine (Oak – RP)
19. Elijah Dukes (Was – OF)
20. Randy Johnson (SF – SP)
21. Frank Francisco (Tex – RP)

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:23:28 +0000

@Baron Von Vulturewins: Lime zest takes care of that.

By: Grey

Grey — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:22:43 +0000

@IowaCubs: Nice! See, punting 2nd longer than I did still makes for a very solid team. You might be a little weak power-wise at 1B and CI.

By: Baron Von Vulturewins

Baron Von Vulturewins — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:20:52 +0000

@Grey: Yeah, I wasn't trying to draft the Whitney Houston All-Stars, I just liked each guy better than whatever else was left. And once you get to rounds 5 through 7, even the established guys have caveats.* I had a girlfriend who gave me caveats once. Itched like hell for weeks.