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Welcome to the brand new series called Bear or Bull. In this series, we will be talking about animals and how they relate to baseball players. No, really, we are. Otis Nixon is a cheetah! No, not like that. More like, if by animals I mean market trend descriptors. Yes, that totally makes much more sense. No, not really. Basically, I’ll be spotlighting players every week and creating a framework of where they are trending, a big picture analysis type of thing. Think Sky’s Creeper of the Week, but for multiple seasons, mixed with a hint of Grey’s Buy/Sell with a touch of my manly musk and prowess. We’ll do some light bio work, have some lol’s, make some GIFs, and assess where this player is and where this player is going. In the end, you’ll learn whether or not I’m Bearish (not zesty) or Bullish (yes please) on the player. Personally, I’d always want to be the bear. A polar bear actually. All I would do is hunt for seals and fish, drink a bunch of Coke, and never fear anything. Well, except global warming I guess. And maybe acid reflux.

Edwin Encarnacion was drafted by the Texas Rangers in the 9th round, 274th overall in the year 2000. Traded a year later, with Ruben Mateo, to the Reds for Rob Bell, he made a steady climb through the minor leagues, hitting well at every stop. In 2005, he hit 314/388/548 in 78 Triple-A games, which spurned a promotion to the Majors, but only for a quick cup of tea. Its healthier than coffee, so there. Considered one of the top prospects that the Reds had since Adam Dunn and Austin Kearns, he was given the everyday job in 2006 after the Reds traded Joe Randa to the Padres and a strong performance in spring training. He finished the year with a solid slash of 276/359/473 with 15 homeruns, but also committed 25 errors at 3B. 2007 began disastrously for Encarnacion, as he hit 221/294/260, leading to the loss of his spot in the lineup to, of all people, Ryan Freel, who then eventually vacated that spot to Josh Hamilton. Sent back to Triple-A with the ire of then manager Jerry Narron, Encarnacion’s 2008 saw the return of steady, yet unspectacular production. He hit 251/340/466, but still was considered a defensive liability at 3B, committing another 23 errors. The talent was always there, or so everyone always said. Encarnacion, by most scouts measure, was an 80 power guy, with good pitch recognition and maybe a 50 hit tool. And to his credit, many Cincinnati fans felt he had been mishandled and not given enough of an opportunity. That showed as much in 2009, with Dusty Baker’s toothpick starring as the new sheriff in town, and Encarnacion quickly starting the season hitting .209 with just 5 homeruns, he was promptly shipped to Toronto for Scott Rolen. Here’s what GM Walt Jocketty had to say: “He (Rolen) brings leadership. He’s a veteran. I think he’ll add a lot to this club. He’s a good RBI man and a Gold Glove at third base.” If you need help deciphering that, they basically wanted a mature, productive guy who could field. Rolen proved to be a pretty good player until injuries took their toll in 2011. But the trade was perhaps the best thing to ever happen to Encarnacion.

Lucky enough to be one of the few that gets a nickname with both letter(s) and number(s), like RG3, or myself, JW1, E5 has been around for quite some time, as I just illuminated. (Though the creation of said nickname was not formed out of adoration. Just look-up scoresheet terminology if you aren’t getting it.) But he really only gained notoriety with last season’s campaign of ‘ef that ball out of the park’. So what differentiates the young 3B who was once thought of as a top prospect, but because of mismanagement, or never living up to expectations, or perhaps even being mislabeled, who settled as a 20 homerun and nothing else guy, turn into a 1B that outproduces Albert Pujols? Well, I’m glad you asked. But first, give me a minute to cure the carpal tunnel syndrome I just got from typing such a ginormous run-on sentence.

It’s all about the swing baby. Is that a saying? No? Well, it should be. Since GIFs and me are like this, and for those of you who can’t see what I’m doing right now, which is all of you, I’m twisting my middle and forefinger together in a toight like a tiger manner. Let’s take a GIFiculous journey of what exactly Encarnacion’s swing looked like pre-awesome (2011) and present-awesome (2012, 2013).

Edwin Encarnacion’s Swing, 2011

Edwin Encarnacion’s Swing, 2012

Edwin Encarnacion’s Swing, 2013

A human representation of what that baseball felt when coming into contact with Edwin Encarnacion’s bat.

 Also a human representation of failing at life.

See anything different? I certainly do. If you didn’t that’s fine. If no one told you, I also write stuff around these parts. Two elements of his swing changed. First, he now keeps both hands on the bat through the entire swing, including the follow through. According to reports, this change was taught by Luis Mercedes, a former OF big-leaguer, not a southern luxury sedan, during Toronto’s 2011 spring training. Mercedes thought this action would help shorten the swing, which was, according to him, too long and undisciplined. With a more compact swing, you can gain more control in the zone, especially with pitches on the inner-half of the plate. That’s what I say. I get credit for that. Second, and most noticeable, is the progressive elimination of his long, almost Karate Kid style leg kick. As you can see in his 2011 swing, Edwin had that large and stuttered leg kick thing going, that began right at the start of the pitcher’s windup. In 2012, he starts his kick later, and comes down faster as the bat moves towards the plate. Also, the stutter doesn’t last as long. Now, in 2013, it’s almost been completely completely phased out. Less time to start hip-rotation allows a cleaner and quicker travel distance to the plate. By shortening his swing, he’s allowing additional amount of time to read the pitch, valuable to any hitter. With both of these changes, it’s reasonable to conclude that the swing is easily repeatable as well.

All of these changes show up in the stat-sheets, lest you think I’m just going to drop anecdotal evidence on you. In 2012, Encarnacion posted the lowest overall swing rate of his career (41.6%), while still holding his career average contact rate (82.1%). He also raised his pitches seen per plate appearance  from 3.74 in 2011 to 4.19 in 2012. Mix all these things into a bowl, add some Caesar Dressing, because there simply is no other rational choice, and you have a player who ended up hitting 16 more home runs then his previous career high, and hitting those homeruns 15.8 ft further (413.2 ft total), on average, than his career number of 397.4 ft. By the way, the speed off the bat, which yes, is a real stat, I didn’t make it up. If I did, I would have made a Jennifer Lawrence stat and called it a day. But the SOB has been trending up as well. Suffice to say, everything, power wise, is heading in the right direction. And in this ruthless game of fantasy baseball, I so now declare immunity to normal regression! And +5 to magic missile. Basically, the amulet of +23 to father’s love you acquired after slaying/waiving Colby Rasmus three turns ago will not help you.

There are certainly good examples of players blooming late in their careers, one only needs to look over Encarnacion’s left shoulder to see Jose Bautista standing there as a prime example. You can tread cautiously if you want, but I’m going all in. There is just too much evidence to show last season was not a fluke, and while this won’t last forever, nothing great ever does. Given E5’s improvements in both plate discipline and power from legitimate adjustments, combined with hitting in the middle of a pretty gnarly lineup, I think the baseline, bare minimum if healthy, for this year, should be 85/35/95/270/5. But I think he’ll hit closer to 100/40/115/275/5.

Big picture wise, while he’s not on the right side of the aging curve, turning 30 is not the end of the world. But the future does get fuzzy and more worrisome for sluggers past the age of 30. We could go over the fall of Richie Sexson, Mo Vaughn… even Albert Pujols doesn’t make it rain like he used to. It is a risk, no doubt. But everything in fantasy baseball is a risk. I like the plate discipline, which often helps older players adjust to aging curves. I like that Toronto has opened a window to compete for what should be at least two more years. And I like the fact that Encarnacion’s health has been stable for his entire career. And, obviously, he’s open to making adjustments if need be. Moving on from 2013, for the next couple of years, I could see the baseline being slightly downgraded to around 75/30/90/265/3, which is still pretty darn good in today’s run environment. And remember, this is just a baseline. I’m still expecting at least 110 homeruns over the next 450 or so games of his career, health permitting of course. And multiple 40+ homerun seasons are not as unfathomable as you think.

Most importantly and conclusively, I declare this new and improved E5 is here to stay, at least in the mean time. Last year was not a fluke. And this year will be just as special. So sit back and enjoy owning him. If available in trade, pounce on him. And if you are in a keeper, love him. So what say me?

Final Verdict:

From Around The Web

  1. G Money says:
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    Really? Really After I trade him away yesterday you go and do this? A whole article dedicated to E5. bastard. well it was a bit early but like you said yesterday I felt I got good value for C Davis and I think Adam Jones is a cheap man’s McuCutchen or like KC Rib Pirate http://whatproswear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/adam-jones-all-star-wristbands.jpg Not sure if you saw that last year at the HR derby but my friends and I were laughing saying the who keeps eating the ribs in the TV shot and smacking their lips. None other than Adam Jones and he wouldn’t leave just keep going back for me it was hysterical.
    Thansk for the feedback I like my team’s offense alot and when Headley comes back they are really going to rake. BTW I picked up Rasmus today and are also considering Carter too for depth at Utility.

    -G Money-

    • G Money says:
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      @G Money: *back for more not me that would just be gross

    • Jay

      jaywrong says:
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      @G Money: Heh, I still think you’re okay with that trade.

      I like both Rasmus and Carter for power only. If you can, maybe play match-ups.

  2. Nico

    John Stamos says:
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    Might I ask where you were able to dig up the pitches per plate appearance stat? I’m either whiffing on it at Fangraphs, or looking in the wrong place.

      • Nico

        John Stamos says:
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        @jaywrong: Get out of town! Seriously, out!

        Would you give up a guy like Pence, Alex Gordon or Cruz right now to buy low on Encarnacion for the rest of the season? Grey’s rankings have E5 about 40 spots higher than the other 3, however, the stats aren’t strikingly different so I was wondering if it’s worth it.

        Thanks in advance!

        • Jay

          jaywrong says:
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          @John Stamos: I know, right? Usually, ESPN is like 15th on my list of stat look-up sites.

          And yes, I would try to nab E5 at those prices.

          • Nico

            John Stamos says:
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            @jaywrong: I’m trying to see how many times we can indent this comment section… seriously, last question, I promise.

            I currently have Danny Espinosa as my starting 2B, Altuve on my bench. The team with E5 has Scutaro as his 2B, and no replacement. Would you advise a trade as follows:

            Altuve + Cruz for E5 + Scutaro

            The idea is Scutaro would be on my bench for emergency purposes only.

            • Jay

              jaywrong says:
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              @John Stamos: No worries, that’s what the comment section is for.

              Yeah, I’m comfortable with that trade. Are you going to be okay on speed?

              • Nico

                John Stamos says:
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                @jaywrong: Cruz is actually a bench OF for me. So I would have to think about putting E5 in for Gordon or Pence (Util), and that could be a wash on steals. If E5 hits the 30 projected HR’s, he’s only hitting 3-6 more than Pence or Gordon. I have the feeling you think he’s destined for greater things, which could bump my power up further. I’m set in most offensive categories, so this is more of a cushion trade for 2 guys on my bench. I WILL lose OF depth, however. I would have 3 rakers at 1B w/ The-Artist-Formerly-Known-As-Fielder, Goldy, E5…

                …. So looking at it that way it might not be worth it.

                • Jay

                  jaywrong says:
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                  @John Stamos: You raise good points. Trades are always context based.

                  I actually think he’ll hit 40 again, but I like stating a baseline, people never need helping dreaming on something, ya know?

  3. Sky

    Sky says:
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    So is an Emo Bull good or bad? I 100% bet that El Toro there listens to My Chemical Romance.

    • Jay

      jaywrong says:
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      @Sky: Good!

      But sadly, emo bull has already cut his wrists while listing to dashboard.

      Who’s hungry for a burger?

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        I’ll take one with a side of AFI fries, please.

        BTW, you’re smoking! Love the work you’ve been doing. You really are re-GIFulous, my friend.

        • Jay

          jaywrong says:
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          @Sky: It burns!

          Thanks bro. Coming from you, well, it doesn’t really mean much.

          Hah!

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            Ha! Yeah, probably not the best groupie to have. There’s like 5 girl readers now, though, so you have a shot at upgrading. Until then, I’m sending you instagram pics of me flashing you.

            • Jay

              jaywrong says:
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              @Sky: We have 5 girl readers now? Screenshot or it didn’t happen!

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                I said ‘Tits or GTFO’ to all of them and am awaiting responses.

                • Jay

                  jaywrong says:
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                  @Sky: Yeah, that’s my line. And it works all of the time, zero percent of the time.

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    Well, I blame the Sex Panther.

                    • Jay

                      jaywrong says:
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                      @Sky: Well, I blame you.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I told you I was a terrible wing man! And it’s also not my fault she looked like her eyes were crossed all the time. How could she get mad at me for staring at her tatas the whole time? Felt less rude than trying to figure out which eye to focus on.

  4. shibboleth says:
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    Ahghh I’m still laughing at this post. Thanks, made my day. And I’m curious, what the hell is Scotty holding in your profile image? Any significance to the image?

    • Jay

      jaywrong says:
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      @shibboleth: Thanks! And like all things in life, the answer is always whiskey.

  5. JoeC says:
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    “What do polar bears fear?”
    I’d say an Eskimo with a rifle.

    • Jay

      jaywrong says:
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      @JoeC: Naw. There are no such thing as Texas Eskimo’s.

      Real Eskimo’s concentrate on kisses and whale blubber.

  6. JoeC says:
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    “which *spurned* a promotion to the Majors”

    “Spurned”, JayWrong? Your English teachers are rolling over in their future graves (I’m an optimist, so I assume they’re still alive, since you are relatively young!).

    The word is “spurred”, my Trekkie friend. If you’re spurning someone, you’re definitely not promoting them.

    Yes, I am a Grammar Nazi. I just do it for the uniforms.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I think Jaywrong should both spur and spurn you for this comment. Heil subject before predicate!

      • JoeC says:
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        @Sky: Sky, you know I only have eyes for you. I have to say, your articles are usually first-rate when it comes to grammar. This may just be luck, as the sample size is still relatively small (TWGCS).

        Looks like my Mariners wild-card pick is in the dustbin of history with that Michael Saunders injury (I haven’t checked the news on it, but it looked pretty bad watching it last night. Dude left an imprint in the outfield wall). Doesn’t look like Jesus has progressed much from last year and Ackley is lost. Tough times in the Emerald City.

        Not to mention that the A’s are looking stronger than I thought they’d be, bitch-slapping the Angels like a bunch of cheap hos. God I love it when tiddlywink teams serve it up to the tuxedo teams. Some feel sorry for the Yankees now, but I revel in their demise. I still remember all the pain the Yankees have caused me (well, that and Jeremy Giambi’s inability to slide!).

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          I owe all my debt of gratitude to my editors and my hundreds of ghost writers. And what you mean small, son! What with the 20+ team previews this year, the sleeper picks and my Oregon Nut Cups articles from the past – not to mention the football side – I’m pushing well over 100 posts over here! Sounds like you talk a good game but have been read-cheating on me!

          Yeah, the only thing that’s going to change for the Mariners is when they bring up the young guns. Beavan/Maurer are not going to get us anywhere. Joe Saunders is a great Jason Vargas replacement but Houston has only lit up three guys so far this year: Matt Harrison, Mauer & Beavan. Not really a list you wanna be on. We finally have a solid 3/4 hitter but 5~8 has been a wasteland. They don’t even need to be amazing, just doubles and singles with a .260~.270 average overall would push the line in their favor. Hopefully Erasmo/Hultzen/et al are up sooner rather than later or it’s gonna be a long summer…

          There were a few guys on the A’s I believed in – Yoenis/Moss/Lowrie – and a few that I didn’t – Reddick…ok mostly Reddick – but I figured they’d be solid. Their rotation just makes them so much harder to beat and their platoons with their hitters are borderline magic. A lot is owed to the hitting coach, whose name escapes me right now. Brandon Moss once played in Texas and did nothing and looks like a 30 HR candidate. Crazy stuff. Angels arms were terrible before the season started and with Weaver out, I’m thinking they’ll push the Mariners up to 3rd in the division. Houston, of course, still finishes last. The Rangers are really gambling on being close enough for Lewis and Feliz coming back to matter, in my opinion. That staff is a mess without those two but is still better than then LAA or HOU’s. Probably on par with the Mariners right now, actually.

          As a Mariners fan, I never feel bad when the Yankees lose. They get to experience just a taste of what we’ve got for the last 35+ years!

          • Jay

            jaywrong says:
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            @Sky: I’ll let that tl;dr speak for itself.

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              @jaywrong: Just as long as it’s not Carlos Quentin speaking for you, I’m good with this.

              • Jay

                jaywrong says:
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                @Sky: Honestly, I don’t see what’s wrong with blaming both.

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  @jaywrong: For serious time ~ Grey is sad about losing his ace…am I the only one that kinda is enjoying $200 million going to waste on the Dodgers? I mean, I don’t hate LAD but they’re like the Yankees PST now. And Greinke is…how should I put this? Oh yeah, kind of an asshole.

                  • Jay

                    jaywrong says:
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                    @Sky: I own him in plenty of leagues.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Well then I do feel sorry for you, too.

                  • Jay

                    jaywrong says:
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                    @Sky: Just means his elbow will be more healthy. I guess that’s something.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Exactly. Always look on the bright side of life *walks away whistling to himself

          • JoeC says:
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            @Sky: Oh, I know you haven’t REALLY produced a small sample size of articles. You’re the OG as far as non-Grey/Rudy articles are concerned. Maybe Smokey was here before you and certainly Stephen (may he rest in peace), but you’re the most prolific. I just wanted to make a “small sample size” joke. And, just for the record, I think we should officially replace “TWSS” with “TWGCS” (That’s What Grey’s Cougar Said). I think Grey would feel honored by this alteration (it may also be an alliteration, but I’m too lazy to look up if I’m using that big word correctly).

            Anywho, the Mariners looked like cooked potatoes in the series against the LAstros. Pretty embarrassing to give up as many runs as they did. FHer and Iwakuma are solid, and Saunders is a competent #4, I think, but they desperately need a few more quality starting arms. And their bullpen has been strangely bad as well. The hitting… well, perhaps it will improve as the weather warms up! :) The A’s do look mighty good right now though. That lineup is sort of stacked like an IHOP breakfast.

            At least my KC pick is not looking bonkers-crazy. Detroit is a pretty tough nut to crack, but what if MCab retires to concentrate on drinking (ala Ricky Williams retiring so he could smoke weed!)? Maybe KC will have to settle for a wild card, but they’re a serious team to contend with now that they have real, actual major league pitchers starting for them.

            Jose Reyes going down REALLY hurts what is shaping up to be a nightmare season for Toronto. I guess the O’s slip into that top spot? Or a revitalized Boston? I think it’s only a good thing that Lackey got injured again. I really do hate his fat face (it’s like him and Beckett are related or something… they both have those petulant, bloated, billboard faces that you just want to bonzai karate chop with a brick). Although I did read somewhere that people with fat faces make better baseball players (“fat” was probably not the word they used, ‘course).

            I still say the Razzball Convention is an idea whose time has come. What would be better than getting all these men together who routinely mention that they’re not wearing pants? We need to make this happen. Jack Full of Hate has already said he’d host! (sort of)

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              Jack only wants to host if we’re not wearing pants…

              Ha, yeah. What can I say, I love writing about this stuff. If only I could quit my job and do it full time but Grey said he’s already letting 4 or 5 writers sleep on his one couch and it’s in the alley behind a Burger King nearby. Don’t think the wife would like that idea.

              I really thought the pressure would be removed from Ackley and Montero to produce this year with the Morse/Morales moves. Those two are not guys who are supposed to lead your offense and they got that put on their shoulders last year. I think they’ve lost confidence in their abilities, which is sad/scary all at the same time for how young those two are. I gave up on Smoak early last year and haven’t looked back. He needs to go away and fast. Though I don’t think Maurer and Beavan are THIS bad, we have much better options on the farm. The bright side is that if we keep playing like this, it becomes a lost season and we’ll get to see Hultzen/Walker/et al sooner rather than later. Yeah(?)

              Oak-town is in a groove. They lose part of their 1B HR platoon and regain the output at short in Lowrie. Had him as a sleeper in January even before the move. With MI being such a hole this year, offensively, I really didn’t get how a guy with 20~25 HR power in his bat could go as low as he did for a shortstop. The arms are solid and the offense never gives up. Great team to root for.

              KC isn’t BAD, per se, I just don’t trust their starting rotation. Outside of Shields – who’s not exactly a model of consistency himself – there’s Santana, Guthrie, Mendoza and fluff until Felipe Paulino comes back (love that man, hopefully he comes back strong and has a good run down the stretch for them).

              Baltimore is surprising me in that the starting pitching isn’t bad. It’s not great by any means but it’s good enough to win with that offense supporting it. Tampa Bay will turn it on, I still think they take that division. The BJ’s needed a lot to go right health-wise to have a chance this year. Bautista looks like his wrist is nagging him and Lawrie/Reyes DL’ed is pretty much a nail in that coffin. Buerhle is Joe Saunders who is Jason Vargas who is meh. 200 IP of 4.50 ERA…yay. Josh Johnson should get better but I don’t think it’ll matter. I think BoSox and Baltimore battle for second and the BJs struggle to keep up through it all running Maicer Izturis, Mark DeRosa and Rajai Davis out there. Fugly.

              • JoeC says:
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                @Sky: Your continued love for the Rays’ offense is perplexing (4th-lowest total runs in baseball). Are you expecting an early Wil Myers call-up (and production)? Otherwise, I just don’t see where the offense comes from. It’s certainly not gonna come from the likes of James Anthony Loney.

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  I said they’re going to win the division, not that they’d lead the league in runs or anything like that. They’ve got a lot of guys not doing their jobs offensively right now. Luke Scott comes back and they get a bit more pop in their lineup. I think we could’ve said the same thing last year and in the end, they finished the season +120. They’re still a good team, they’re just scuffling right now. Call ups and good pitching will have an effect. Baltimore still needs to prove their staff can support them all season. They were lucky by the numbers to have that record last year and make the playoffs.

                  • JoeC says:
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                    @Sky: I actually hope you’re right, as A) I picked the Rays to win one of the WCs B) I own Longo in my main league and C) I’ve always had a soft-spot for the Rays, as I think they’re a really well-run franchise and Maddon is a great manager.

                    They’re kind of like my A’s in that they’re good despite the fact that they can’t draw because they play in crappy facilities (although I often question whether any franchise, in any facility, could do well in Florida… they just don’t seem to take their sports very seriously).

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I’m rooting for Portland to eventually get their own team. Would love to have the Rays two hours away :)

                      Agree, both teams are smart and well managed. I root for the A’s when the M’s aren’t in it. Which means I’m already rooting for the a’s

              • JoeC says:
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                @Sky: Yes, KC will need Flippin’ Paulino to come back strong in the second half to shore up their starting pitching. My hope is that their offense will continue to be prolific enough to outscore their mediocre starting pitchers and that their bullpen will continue to be solid.

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Indeed. I thought they’d break out last year but Hochevar disappointed as did most of their arms. I don’t necessarily agree with the Shields trade they made but I get why they did it. Probably angered some fans but for building a competitive ball club now rather than always hanging their hat on next year, it was the right move. I don’t think it pays off but they are a better team now than they were last year. I can at least say that.

    • Jay

      jaywrong says:
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      @JoeC: Yeah, not intentional. Sometimes I miss things. I’m actually an English Major, but not really a grammar nazi. If that’s you, and you only found one mistake, I’ll take it.

      • JoeC says:
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        @jaywrong: I also had dreams of being an English major. Then I saw how much people with English degrees earn. I believe it was “zero dollars”. Since I want women, I decided to pursue a different, less parsimonious field. Now I have the money, working on getting the power, and then I suppose the women will roll right in. Right? Right? Bueller? Bueller?

        • Jay

          jaywrong says:
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          @JoeC: Yeah, I’ve never used it once in my life. I make my monies else where.

          • JoeC says:
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            @jaywrong: Hey, bein’ a gigalow is a tough gig!

            • Jay

              jaywrong says:
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              @JoeC: tough on the ladies!

    • Tehol Beddict says:
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      @JoeC: all of us arent intelligent enough to receive full scholarships to Princeton like myself. That being said I dont even check my posts for grammar. I leave that to my intern/sex slave and if they mess up they receive a visit from my giant butt plug. Sky was my editor once…………

  7. Paddyman says:
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    I’d love to get encarnacion. Would shipping Beltre for him make sense?

    • Jay

      jaywrong says:
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      @Paddyman: Depends on the replacement players. Its an upgrade, but adding in positional scarcity, perhaps a small one. However, one guy is getting pretty old… so there is that.

  8. Jay says:
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    think I can swindle an owner into trading E5 for Hosmer?

    I sense a little panic in him after he came out of week 1 1-9.

    worth a shot, right?

    • Jay

      jaywrong says:
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      @Jay: I’d do it.

      Actually, I have Hosmer in a league. I think I’m going to try it too!

  9. The Dredd Pirate says:
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    I have a pretty good pitching staff you think Latos for E5 is fair or too much, Also have ike at firstbase and yonder some extra trading pieces I have are like bruce, cruz, espinoza, segura.
    Maybe Cruz and a closer my league likes closers.

    • Jay

      jaywrong says:
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      @The Dredd Pirate: I think that would be a great deal for you. E5 is a top 30 guy in my mind. Latos, while good, is not. I would actually keep Yonder, I’m pretty high on him, maybe irrationally so.

      Cruz and closer sounds even better for you.

  10. W1ldFire says:
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    Rotation: Gallardo Scherzer Morrow Peavy Harvey Samardzija Bailey Miller RP: Grilli Holland Parnell yea i know very shaky..would u drop any of these pitchers for either Boggs or A.J. Griffin or maybe someone else you like.

    Also would you pick up Matt Adams, Justin Maxwell, Chris Johnson or Juan Francisco over Moreland.

    My team:
    C- Perez
    1B- Pujols
    2B- Pedroia
    3B- Freese
    SS- Simmons
    2B/SS- Rutledge
    1B/3B- Morneau
    OF- Stanton
    OF- Holliday
    OF- Jennings
    OF- Bourn
    OF- Pagan
    UTIL- Moreland
    BN- John Buck
    12 Team Mixed H2H Each Standard 5×5
    I think I have the potential for a good squad although they are starting a little slow especially in the HR/RBI categories. Any suggestions on someone to target or your thoughts on my team? Thanks!

    • Jay

      jaywrong says:
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      @W1ldFire: I might drop Bailey for Boggs, but depends how important saves are. Otherwise, I’d hold tight on the pitching front.

      I take all of them over Moreland, just not a fan. I’d lean Adams then Francisco. I’m pretty sure Kinsler will be manning 1B by the end of the year anyhow.

      • W1ldFire says:
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        @jaywrong: I live in Dallas and im a lifetime Ranger fan so I think it’s more me wanting to have a Ranger on my team since I watch them every night. He doesn’t get enough HR/RBI production, or at least he hasn’t in the past, to justify his lack of production in BA, Runs, and Steals. Thanks for the advice I’ll prob pick up Adams and plug him in when he plays.

        • Jay

          jaywrong says:
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          @W1ldFire: Well, far it be for me to knock being a homer. It gets me in trouble all the time.

          I do some irrational things with my Padres.

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