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It was just a couple of months ago that I discussed Cincinnati Reds’ first baseman Joey Votto, and what his fantasy value would be the rest of the season.

At the time, he was on the DL nursing a quad injury, and had yet to resume on-field activities.  I basically approached the situation this way: if you own him, trade him; if someone else in your league was growing tired of the situation, he may not be a bad guy to target in a buy-low scenario. Flash forward to Monday, and we are presented with a nearly identical question: what do we do with Joey Votto?  And putting him in cement shoes and dropping him in the Ohio River is not an acceptable answer.

Votto is now headed to the DL for the second time this season — and for the same injury.  Folks, that is not a good sign.

The team rushed him back the first time, and all you had to do was read Reds’ manager Bryan Price’s comments to know this was the case.  Back in May, Price said he believed that Votto would not be 100 percent healthy at all during the 2014 season.  As a fantasy owner, that’s definitely not what you wanna hear.  Usually managers take the positive approach when discussing a player’s health.

It’s looking like the quad issue is either more serious than we were led to believe, or it’s fallout from the knee surgery Votto underwent in 2012 (the knee and quad are often directly related).  After all, his numbers this year have been the worst of his career.  And while his stats weren’t good prior to his first DL stint (.257/.410/.449, 6 HR, 12 RBI in 39 games), they’ve been far worse since his June 10 activation (.250/.354/.345, zero HR, 11 RBI in 23 games).  To put that in context, first-base eligible guys like Chris Carter (the same Chris Carter who is hitting .189 on the season), James Loney and Logan Morrison, are all ranked higher on ESPN’s Player Rater over the last 30 days. Whatever the case may be, fantasy owners are put in a state of flux.

In May, when it was looking like he’d do the minimum DL stint, I’d say “for sure, see if you can get him on the cheap”.  But that is no longer the case.  I wouldn’t be touching him with a 10-foot long Skyline Chili dog right now. If you are one of the unfortunate souls who already owns him, I’m sorry to break this to you, but you’re prolly gonna have to just ride it out.  It’s definitely worth it to explore trade options, but if you’re going to do so, don’t be stubborn and value him like a first-rounder, or even a 10th-rounder.  Take what you can, and get out!

 

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  1. Greyismyhero says:
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    Have him in a small 10 teamer with Abreu at first, Belt is on wire….In this scenario it’s a drop right ?? I’ve tried trading him, no takers and no DL slots available…Thanks.

    • Greyismyhero says:
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      @Greyismyhero: forgot to add, non-keeper

      • james says:
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        @Greyismyhero:

        non-keeper, take Belt. They profile as the same type of hitter, only one is coming off the DL, the other is going on. If belt picks up where he left off before the DL trip, they may have similar value.

        I would be dumping Votto in a 10 team non-keeper, even with a return, how good will he be? If there are realistic replacements, then you have to take what you can get (also have to consider bench or DL slot value… with a DL slot i would stash him, short bench he is gone… long bench it becomes a debate as to who you are getting back)

        • SethDaSportsMan

          SethDaSportsMan says:
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          @james: thanks James. How informative of you

          • james says:
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            @SethDaSportsMan:

            sorry, I get crap all the time for writing really long responses to things that should be 2 word answers.

            • SethDaSportsMan

              SethDaSportsMan says:
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              @james: haha it’s all good man

        • Greyismyhero says:
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          @james: Thanks James & Seth

    • SethDaSportsMan

      SethDaSportsMan says:
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      @Greyismyhero: Yes, I’d drop Votto in a heartbeat for Belt at this point

  2. uncdrew says:
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    Dillon Gee coming back tomorrow.

    Everyone should add him, right?

    • SethDaSportsMan

      SethDaSportsMan says:
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      @uncdrew: Yep, definitely

        • SethDaSportsMan

          SethDaSportsMan says:
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          @Alan: I hope so! Been stashing him since he originally hit the DL!

  3. Al koholic says:
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    thanks for the work

    • SethDaSportsMan

      SethDaSportsMan says:
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      @Al koholic: thanks for reading, Al! Ill buy you a brewski!

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @SethDaSportsMan: this might mean my earlier comment that Grey likes Gee more than anyone on here (writers) was wrong.

        • SethDaSportsMan

          SethDaSportsMan says:
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          @goodfold2: Love Gee. Was very patient with his extended absence. Sick start tonight!

  4. james says:
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    What do you think of Votto long term in a Keeper league… Is he going to return to 1st round value next year, top 50, top 100… never be the same again? Who would you rather stash for next season, Votto or Prince?

    • SethDaSportsMan

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      @james: I do not think Votto is a good long term keeper. He’ll never be 1st round value anymore. Top 75 in OBP leagues, maybe, but if you look at his last few years, everythings declined. Hes never gonna be a 25 HR guy anymore and is obviously not getting younger.

      Id rather have Prince in most formats to be honest

  5. Jason says:
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    i just got Andrus and an 8th rd pick in next years keeper draft (which amounts to a third rd pick after keeper rounds 1-5) for Votto.

    thoughts?

    • SethDaSportsMan

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      @Jason: I’m not an Andrus fan at all, but if you have a solid 1B replacement, its a fair deal

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