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I suggest you grab a 3rd baseman before leaving the top 100, but that’s not always possible.  So, if you miss out on one,  this list is guys that can be had later in your drafts.  Look at this as a supplement to the top 20 3rd basemen of 2009 fantasy baseball.  Where applicable, click on the players name to read more about them or to see their 2009 projections.  Anyway, here’s some 3rd basemen to target for 2009 fantasy baseball:

Ryan Zimmerman –  “For today’s game of Jew or Not a Jew… Ryan Zimmerman.”

Pablo Sandoval – He’s not fat, he’s jolly.  I still prefer him more as a catcher, but in deep leagues I could see the case made for Sandoval as a 3rd baseman, especially with the loss of A-Rod.

Alex Gordon – Hey, it’s everyone’s favorite fantasy baseball blogger’s perennial sleeper.

Mark Reynolds – Capable of 30 HRs and 10 steals.  I will call you bizarro, low average, swing-happy David Wright.

Kevin Kouzmanoff – If only he didn’t play his home games in Petco… To paraphrase Bubb Rubb, “Woooooo…”

Joe MatherTroy Glaus’s replacement until Glaus returns (read: May or much later).  CHONE projects Mather for 19 HRs and 6 steals with a .253 average, but that’s in 415 ABs.  Last year in Triple-A, Mather crushed the ball hitting 17 HRs and batting .303 in only 59 games.  Then again, that was in the offense-minded PCL.  Just looking at the numbers, Mather profiles to me like mini-Glaus.  Some pop, low average.  It wouldn’t be surprising to see him hit 25 homers and bat .240 over an entire season.  It also wouldn’t be unlikely to see Glaus stay unhealthy with his old man shoulder.  Act like you know, MC Lyte!

  1. Tony says:
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    scary, glad i got wright as a keeper,with AROD going down (for 6-9 weeks) third is even shallower….

  2. JPH says:
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    Grey,

    Could to be back and posting again. Don’t know if I should post this in the forum but here goes anyway…Just had my draft (H2Hpoints) and I totally panicked and went pitcher crazy…Here is my squad….

    Doumit
    Fielder
    Kelly Johnson
    Aramis Ramirez
    S. Drew
    Sizemore
    C. Young
    Nady
    Mark Reynolds

    CC
    Haren
    Beckett
    Zambrano
    Volquez
    Scherzer
    Jurrjens
    Maine
    Kershaw
    Mariano

    I have a waiver request to pick up Nelson Cruz and drop Jurrjens and somebody just offered me Hanley and Mike Cameron for Sizemore and CC…

    At least I can still take pride in my team name:

    Corey Lidle Flight School…..ZING

  3. JPH says:
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    I meant Good to be back…must have developed some dyslexia in the off-season

  4. agarthered says:
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    @JPH that Hanley trade is atrocious.

  5. JPH says:
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    @agarthered: Oh yeah, I wasn’t planning on taking it…

  6. Kevin says:
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    3rd Base is shockingly shallow this year. I don’t want to be in a position to have to take one of these guys. Give me Aramis Ramirez in the 3rd or 4th round.

  7. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Tony: Yup.

    @JPH: Good to see you again! Yeah, your team is hurting a bit. I like the drop of Jurrjens for Cruz. And… Yeah, that’s not a good trade.

  8. Tony says:
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    @JPH: I would deal CC for a stud OF’er or maybe keep Haren til the All Star break when he usually falls off and then deal him for some offense, might be too late then tho?

  9. Hardcore Midget says:
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    FYI, Matt Berry just got a question about Razzball in his ESPN chat.

    Garrett (Boston): How come you seemed so grouchy during the RB interview? Can you not handle when other fantasy writers criticize you?

    SportsNation Matthew Berry – Talented Mr. Roto: (2:06 PM ET ) I edited your ? b/c I don’t feel like giving that site anymore pub… But, for those unaware, I recently gave an interview and basically, it was sort of an ambush interview. I was doing a whole bunch of interviews in a row to promote ESPN Fantasy – free live scoring, free to play, fully customizeable, auction drafts for free in case you missed it. And I didn’t expect a hostile interview. It sort of took me unaware to be honest. All of the questions were basically “why are so stupid?” And it’s like … how do you answer that? He didn’t have an interest in my answers only in trying to make me look bad and I just didn’t feel like engaging. I’m fine with criticism from anyone – I think all of my work proves that – hell, I’ve printed some during this chat – but only if the criticism is legitimate and not of the “I’m smart, you’re a moron, how do you respond?” type. I was disappointed in the final printed interview as he edited a lot of answers to shine a light on me a certain way and, more importantly, he didn’t mention ESPN fantasy baseball at all – the whole reason for the interview. So not really grouchy but definitely didn’t engage with him… Just thought it was a little minor league and the kind of thing that gives blogs a bad name. For the record, I am pro blog – read many good ones… but those that are anti-blog use examples like this to prove their point. And I’ve spent way too much time on this as is but as someone who has gone out of their way to help guys on small sites / struggling writers it was a disappointing experience to be ambushed like that. The fact that we over four hours in and this is the first question of 10,000 I got about it tells me not a lot of folks read it, either.,.. I was expecting a lot more questions on i

    Annnnnd, he’s still a giant tool, and Razzball is where it’s at.

    Viva la Razzball!

  10. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Hardcore Midget: Oh, and for the record I left out 5 of his 6 yawns. Literal and otherwise.

  11. Johnny says:
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    @Hardcore Midget: What an awesome user name.

  12. Colin says:
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    Razzball’s left pinky toe > Berry’s entire body x 100000000

  13. Hardcore Midget says:
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    OK, now a 3B question for the masses.
    In a 12 team H2H keeper league, our redraft is on Wednesday.

    Each team keeps 5 players, so 60 guys are already off the board.
    Feeling pretty good with Hanley, Kinsler, Hamilton, Berkman and Liriano as my 5.

    I have the 12 and 13 picks in the redraft, and want to go with an OF and a 3B on those picks. Finish up my IF and not have to worry about it.

    3B already being kept are Arod, Wright, Miggy, Longoria, Youk and Davis.
    I’m pretty sure Aramis is going to be gone by my pick.

    Am I crazy to reach for Zimmerman over Atkins at this pick? Or should I maybe lean towards Chipper, and drafting another 3b later in the draft?

  14. Kevin says:
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    He knows Razzball is the best blog on the internet and feels threatened.

  15. James says:
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    @Hardcore Midget – Ha! I am glad Dingleberry felt foolish. I view him as an ESPN creation with no credibility whatsoever. He being a standup comedian only affirms my opinion. I have noticed a trend of different networks, like ESPN and FOX, using random comedians/actors as “experts” in newer formats like fantasy or gambling. For example, Kimmel, Caliendo, Dingleberry and that dude who was in one Seinfeld episode are apparently handicapping experts.

  16. agarthered says:
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    Oh man how glorious!

  17. James says:
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    handicapping/fantasy experts that should read…

  18. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Hardcore Midget: I wouldn’t go for Zimmerman over Atkins, but I would consider skipping Atkins and grabbing Zimmerman later. The problem obviously is someone may grab Zimmerman over you and then you’re without both.

    @Kevin: I think he just realized he came off pretty yawnstipating and was trying to cover for him being less than inspired. ESPN should interview me to and then edit it anyway they see fit. Though I doubt they have the testicular fortitude.

  19. Garrett says:
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    Just asked Berry why he was such a baby during the interview in his “marathon chat.” Funny response:

    Garrett (Boston): How come you seemed so grouchy during the RB interview? Can you not handle when other fantasy writers criticize you?

    Matthew Berry – Talented Mr. Roto: (2:06 PM ET ) I edited your ? b/c I don’t feel like giving that site anymore pub… But, for those unaware, I recently gave an interview and basically, it was sort of an ambush interview. I was doing a whole bunch of interviews in a row to promote ESPN Fantasy – free live scoring, free to play, fully customizeable, auction drafts for free in case you missed it. And I didn’t expect a hostile interview. It sort of took me unaware to be honest. All of the questions were basically “why are so stupid?” And it’s like … how do you answer that? He didn’t have an interest in my answers only in trying to make me look bad and I just didn’t feel like engaging. I’m fine with criticism from anyone – I think all of my work proves that – hell, I’ve printed some during this chat – but only if the criticism is legitimate and not of the “I’m smart, you’re a moron, how do you respond?” type. I was disappointed in the final printed interview as he edited a lot of answers to shine a light on me a certain way and, more importantly, he didn’t mention ESPN fantasy baseball at all – the whole reason for the interview. So not really grouchy but definitely didn’t engage with him… Just thought it was a little minor league and the kind of thing that gives blogs a bad name. For the record, I am pro blog – read many good ones… but those that are anti-blog use examples like this to prove their point. And I’ve spent way too much time on this as is but as someone who has gone out of their way to help guys on small sites / struggling writers it was a disappointing experience to be ambushed like that. The fact that we over four hours in and this is the first question of 10,000 I got about it tells me not a lot of folks read it, either.,.. I was expecting a lot more questions on i

  20. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Garrett: You get a Razzball gold star for asking him. Well done.

  21. agarthered says:
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    What about Beltre? I think he’s worth a look, especially if you leave 3b late.

  22. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Garrett: BTW, he said in the interview he’s never read any other site then ESPN, so I’m not sure what he’s talking about. Maybe he’s like Scott Baio in Zapped with some telepathic shizz.

    EDIT: Typo.

  23. When you type in “Fantasy Baseball” on Google search, razzball.com is #7. So anyone who follows and supports fantasy baseball blogging, how do you not know about Razzball?

  24. Garrett says:
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    He’s such a baby. I’ve read him for a long time, just started reading you guys last year and the content is so much better (and funnier) here. I like a few of the guys over there (Jason Grey specifically) but he is a total waste of space – not funny and it’s obvious he does zero research. And for him to take cheap shots like that is pretty lame – shows how insecure he is. I didn’t think you printed anything that made him look that bad.

    That said, posting the audio is a must at this point.

  25. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @agarthered: I like Beltre a lot. I’d look to grab him after the big name(s) are gone.

  26. Garrett says:
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    Totally missed that you already printed everything… I’m an idiot.

  27. agarthered says:
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    Yeah in a mock draft last night, Zimmerman and Atkins got scooped, so I went with AB in the 14th, and my team turned out to be quite awesome. haha

  28. Grey

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    @Garrett: Also, he doesn’t want to give us more pub when the whole point of the interview was to give THEM pub. Way to help the little guy. This is infuriating. Bad week to quit Tagamet.

  29. Hardcore Midget says:
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    Grey- that was my concern.
    I’m down on Atkins this year, so I’d rather Zimmerman.
    I just figured that if I didn’t scoop Zimmerman at 12/13, he probably wouldn’t be there at 36/37 for me when the snake comes back around.

    We’ll see how it plays out. Would Beltre as a starting 3b be that horrible?

    What do you think of Chipper this year? Aside from knowing he’s good for about 110 games…

  30. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:
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    Dearest Grey…

    Thanks for making me feel two pence more confident about drafting Alex Gordon last night in my first draft, though I still suffer from “NotBelievingTwoShitsInGordonItis.” Symptoms include an add/drop trigger-happy mouse clicking sensation, dry heaves and a four hour erection.

    Tell me there’s a cure! Stop me from picking up Mike Lowell!

    Humbly Yours,
    Disquieted in Des Moines

  31. James says:
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    HM – Beltre was pretty nasty during his last contract year for the Dodgers. Plus, he is still only 29.

  32. Grey

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    @Hardcore Midget: I like Chipper but he’s already tweaked his oblique and we’re still three to four weeks away from real games. Just know you may only get 100-120 games of Chipper. I think Beltre is a good replacement if you miss Zimmerman.

    @IowaCubs: Lowell’s 35, coming off surgery and he hasn’t hit above 21 HRs since ’04.

    @James: Agreed.

  33. agarthered says:
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    @James If I don’t get Miggy, DWright, or Davis, I think I’m just going to hold out for Beltre, unless Atkins and Zimmerman fall super late. I figure you can build a very strong team, and Beltre isn’t going to hurt you at all.

    ps: Is it wrong that i’ve ended up with Peavy in the 5th round of my last 5 mock drafts, I also keep ending up with Gallardo(9th or 10th), Votto (8th or 9th), and Heath Bell in nearly every single draft.

    Grey I think you should be hyping Jason Werth

  34. sean says:
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    Any thoughts on whether Cano is more attractive now with his possible bump up in the batting order into the run-producing spot?

  35. sean says:
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    @hardcore midget: think i heard last night that chipper strained a muscle on a swing last night in the wbc. only a matter of time, i guess…

  36. James says:
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    @agarthered – That is a pretty good strategy. I like Zimmerman, and if you can get him at a discount that is just gravy. Weren’t we all hearing 30HRs for him a year ago? What has changed? Not much – he was hurt last year, but his comeback was good and he is healthy now.

    It really matters what type of players you have in your league. If you are playing with some lamers you need to go by ranks because that is what they will do. If you are playing with some hardcore fantasy brodies you need to be a little more crafty.

    Again, remember you don’t know the players in that mock draft. Peavy probably would go higher, but Gallardo and Votto seem about right.

  37. Frank Rizzo says:
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    @sean: What possible bump? Where is Cano projected now?

  38. James says:
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    @grey – Zimmerman’s HR/FB ratio is pretty consistent, which I assume means his 20 to 25 power is legit. Thus, wouldn’t we expect he could hit more in a full healthy season in their new stadium. Is this a proper analysis?

    I really like Zimmerman, but I know the lamers in my draft are going to see that 60 something o-rank and nab him earlier than he should go.

  39. IowaCubs

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    @Grey: Regarding this Berry business…

    In my previous career, which preceeded my career in coffee, I was a political field organizer and campaign manager for over 20 campaigns, issues and ballot measures. (this explains my time in LA, Seattle, Minneapolis, Chicago, etc).

    As a grunt forced to suck up to the mucky-mucks in campaign life, one of the things I resented the most about my previous life is this bullshit hand wringing and ass kissing of people who think that they are important. I hated having to go to cocktail parties and fundraisers of people who are of no fame of consequence on their own, despite having the ability to write at $5000 check. We would take their money — kiss their ass with promises of whatever; make a political beat reporter feel like they got their story — brownnose some more. It’s what makes politicians and politics in America so vulnerable to corruption and, well, bad democracy.

    It’s a mad life that I’m glad to be free of, and it’s exactly why I read Razzball before I read anything else fantasy related. Just look at the words he used to belittle you, “small sites / struggling writers” and it was “minor league,” etc. “I’ve got 10,000 questions and only one about this interview…” What a “major league” asshole. Any time I feel that someone isn’t humble enough to laugh at themselves don’t deserve my time. These dudes take themeselves WAY too seriously.

    I guess from your perspective with this Matthew Berry character, he’s become so used to getting his ass kissed on all sides, from the check he cashed after selling his site, to his adoring “10,000” questions from fans, that you just completely cocked him one upside his cocky head and caught him off guard. I guess when you feel that you finally “make it” that anything less than what you’ve come to expect from fans is brushed off as “why are so stupid?” If you can’t back up your own fantasy advice and berate the interviewer as “minor league,” well, then, it’s time to leave the cocktail parties for a few hours.

    The point of your interview cocked him upside the head, and you should have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. Bravo.

  40. Hardcore Midget says:
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    Alright, another question. There are a few young 3B who could potentially be hitting the big leagues this year- Gamel, Viciedo and Wallace.

    Anyone have any clue on whether any of these guys might make the Opening Day rosters for their respective teams? Worth a flier on any?

  41. Emporers Monkey says:
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    God, I hope everyone in my leagues drafts as bad as the kids in the Yahoo mocks. My soul actually died a little when I witnessed someone take Derrek Lee in the 5th and followed that up with Jeter in the 6th. This is a 10 team draft, mind you.

  42. James says:
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    @FR – there is talk that Cano would move to the 3 or 4 hole with Arod out. I think this is a real possibility knowing how Girardi likes to challange players. However, he will go back to hitting lower in the order when Arod comes back. Thus, what is the point of drafting Cano higher if we know he is probably going back.

  43. Grey

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    @sean: Cano is who he is. He’s not getting a bump in value, if anything the loss of A-Rod hurts that lineup a bit. Cano’s still a 20 HR threat and a .300 hitter with little to no speed.

    @James: I’d agree with your assessment.

    @IowaCubs: Amen to that, brotha. I was actually worried that I edited the interview too nicely towards him and everyone would think I was ass-kissing. Obviously it had been a long time since someone checked him and he got flustered.

    @Emporers Monkey: Ha!

  44. sean says:
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    @Frank T Rizzo, James: Heard that there’s a chance he bats cleanup between Tex/Posada. Talk radio is all over it today…

  45. IowaCubs

    IowaCubs says:
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    @Grey: Speak Truth to Power.

  46. Emporers Monkey says:
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    Wheeler or Balfour?

    Who has the best chance to pick up saves this year?

    P.S….The sycophantism towards Berry is nauseating. Nice to see someone knock him down a peg or two. The fact that you werent feeding him grapes during the interview probably ruined his day.

  47. James says:
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    @grey: what do you use to understand home run potential? tHR? If so, is there anything else? Or do you use scouting reports?

  48. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @James: All the above and FB rate, LD rate, doubles, minor league numbers, etc.

  49. Matt M says:
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    I really didn’t think Berry came off that poorly in the interview you posted. He seemed a little worried about making sure his answers were “Mickey Mouse”-friendly, but so what? I’d be worried about that too if I worked for ESPN.

    That’s why I was surprised about his reaction in the chat today. He came across like a PR rep getting pissy when a reporter doesn’t write the story exactly the way they want it.

    That said, he’s not nearly as funny or insightful as many of the guys he takes credit for getting started in the business.

  50. rich says:
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    Been reading your site for almost a year, but it wasn’t until the Bubb Rubb and Lil Sis reference that I finally felt I needed to reply. Do they play their games at Petco “early in the da morning”? Woo wooooooooo!
    I will never be able to hear Kouz’s name without thinking about the video. Thanks!

  51. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Matt M: Yeah, he was a bit sanitized. Nothing really that awful. His reaction to it is much worse.

    @rich: Glad Bubb Rubb could incite you.

  52. agarthered says:
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    Just read a post over at RotoAuthority to be weary of pitchers playing in the WBC, so maybe me taking Peavy in the 5th isn’t as great as previously thought.

  53. Christopher says:
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    Grey, you should sweeten the Fantasy Razzball League pot a bit:
    Winner gets you to draft for him next year
    Loser gets Berry to draft for him next year

  54. Grey

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    @agarthered: Yeah, Peavy being in the WBC isn’t ideal, but he didn’t pitch as many innings last year, so I’m still hopeful for him.

    @Christopher: Ha!

  55. John A. says:
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    You don’t think it was a little bush league to not mention the whole point of Matt Berry doing the interview? If you don’t give him a plug, how do you expect him to be happy about it?

  56. agarthered says:
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    @Grey true true. I’ve got two big drafts coming up starting next week, so we’ll see what happens. I’ll obviously be posting my teams on here, after the draft.

  57. @John: The ESPN PR person did not tell us it was to promote ESPN’s new offerings. Matthew Berry’s responses were verbatim. He didn’t tout ESPN’s new offerings. We’re fans of ESPN’s new platform – we’re sponsoring 14 leagues in it this year! (http://razzball.com/razzball-commenter-league-master-standings/, http://razzball.com/fantasy-razzball-league-master-standings/). If they asked us, we would’ve written a question or two to discuss their offering.

    And it’s not like we didn’t give him a plug. We added in a bio and a pic. We mentioned ESPN several times in the post.

    If we could do the interview over, I think we might’ve phrased or sequenced questions differently. We’re not interviewers by trade – we’re monologuists. But ESPN should also recognized they provided inadequate briefing and it helps if the interviewee has actually read our site (he admitted to never having read our site).

  58. Steve C. says:
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    Howdy!

    I already have Mather, whom I can keep for $10 in my deep NL-only league. We use OBP, not BA, so it might not be so bad. =8P
    I also have (sigh!) Geoff Blum who should get a lot of ABs in a decent Astros lineup for $1. Mind you, this is the 3rd year in a row I picked him up for $1, so perhaps I’m missing something here…

    This year, there seem to be a lot of 1B/3Bs available in our league: Howard, Berkman, A.Gonzalez, Wright, Zimmerman, AmRam and a few others.

    Last year, Chipper went for $35, Atkins $33, and Glaus at $24! =8O

    If Glaus comes back soon (I know… a big “if”!), do you see Mather getting enough ABs in the OF to get his 25 or so dingers? With Ludwick, Ankiel, Rasmus(?) and Duncan, I’m weary of the # of Mather’s ABs this year.

    Decisions, decisions…

    Thanks!

    Steve

    “It hurts to be on the cutting edge.”

  59. Steve says:
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    @Steve C.: @agarthered: @Everyone else: I’m going to come off as a total hall monitor (or whatever it is you call them in the US) here, but the best place to post draft/roster/keeper questions is in the forums:

    http://razzball.com/forums/

    where there’s a section for pretty any subject you need. Makes it easier for everyone else to jump in and help too.

  60. Josh says:
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    do you think Josh Fields is worth a stash right now? my deep leagues are all OBP instead of BA so that’s a pretty big plus right there. projections seem to like him despite his poor year last year. pecota (22/9), shandler (19/12), chone (20/10), ZiPS (20/9) all in around 500 PAs.

    fwiw, i thought you were professional and respectful in your interview with Berry. to your point Rudy, if he had actually read just 1 post on this site, he would’ve realized that you two are funny and don’t take things too seriously. plus, i was under the impression that his only redeeming quality is embracing criticism.

  61. @Josh: Those #s for Fields sound about right. But he’ll be an AVG/OBP drain – maybe .250/.310 – b/c of his K rate – and I expect him to be mediocre in R/RBI (because he’ll hit low in the lineup). But he has upside so worth a stash.

  62. sean says:
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    Berry’s doing what any self-righteous ‘pert would do: smear anyone who questions him and cast aside any legitimate criticism as fringe blog vitriol. The ivory tower is mighty tall…

  63. Grey

    Grey says:
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    @Steve C.: I don’t think Mather will get enough ABs in the outfield, but he might get enough at 3rd. It’s tentative though to consider him getting ABs after May. $10 is too much.

    @sean: Yup.

  64. John A. says:
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    @Sean: I’ve been reading Matt Berry for quite awhile and he definitely takes his share of criticism. Much of it is founded, but many of the comments posted on razzball are of the “Matt Berry likes to get his ass kissed” or “Matt berry sold out” variety. Really? If ESPN came knocking on your door to have you write fantasy content for them, you wouldn’t take their offer? It seems that there’s a jealousy component and that many of you need to get off your high horse and quit slandering the guy.

    I’ve never heard of Razzball until I read Matt Berry’s chat and did a google search. It seems to me that RB could use all the good publicity it can get. After reading a few of the articles, I really enjoyed the content. It doesn’t mean that I can’t also enjoy the content on ESPN.

  65. Ashley says:
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    Grey and/or Rudy,

    Are you sure I should add Harang? He’s given up 12 hits in 6.2 IP, 0 strikeouts this spring. His numbers were solid in ’06 and ’07, but last year was a disaster and he doesn’t appear to be off to a good start this year.

    I like Floyd, but your dislike of him has prevented me from adding him. You don’t think he can post similar numbers to last year?

    I left off Manny Parra, Ubaldo Jimenez, and Jonathan Sanchez yesterday.. Will they be better this year? They appear to have good stuff, but no control.

    As you can see, I’m looking for any reason to get rid of Jered Weaver.

    Just rank Parra, Jimenez, and Sanchez please, based on upside/potential/situation… And I’ll drop Weaver for him.

    Or should I trade Weaver for Ervin Santana? Then I can put Ervin on the DL and add one of those guys.

  66. big o says:
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    @Grey:
    did you think i wouldn’t crawl out of the wood-work for this one ?

    ha-ha …. i laugh in the faces of you , ALL .
    atkins — zimmerman — beltre … HAH .
    hah – hah !!

    but , what to expect ? …. as every reader / commenter of this site is obviously afflicted .
    could this be the lunatic fringe ??
    (if not , it’s damn close .)

    and while many rush to wallow in your pyrrhic victory , we all know that our mothers taught us not to make fun of those less fortunate than ourselves . (STOP STARING !!)
    this could have all been avoided , had you , instead , interviewed that guy from “friends” .

    should you have a “hank”ering to apologize for leading the faithful down the path to ruination , (blah , blah , “bla”h) and un-“lock” the key …. please , understand that i want no gold star …. a simply great big(o) “i told you so” will suffice .

    “why can’t we be friends , why can’t we be friends , why can’t we be friends…”
    (not sure , but didn’t the same guy sing ==> “we gotta get outta this place , if it’s the last thing we ever do …”) ?

    anyway , i remain a proud and loyal reader of your work , despite your short-comings .

  67. TEEJ says:
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    where is the love For Aramis Ramirez? He seems to be in the 1st tier limbo and 2nd tier heaven. He slips a little in most drafts I have done this year. I think he is solid anyhow.

    On a side note, Berry is a tool of all tools.

    On a further side note, how can I collaborate my site with yours?

  68. Grey

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    @Ashley: Trade Weaver for Ervin then pickup Parra, Jimenez or Sanchez, in that order.

    @TEEJ: Aramis is above the guys on this list. He wasn’t mentioned because he’s too good. These are guys that would be available in deep leagues, late.

  69. @John: Thanks for taking the minority view. Good analysis isn’t exclusive to big sites or small sites.

    It’s impossible for a site to be everything to everyone and I both envy and don’t envy Mr. Berry’s job at ESPN. He’s talking to a much larger audience that doesn’t necessarily want the snark nor stats that we may produce.

    We have nothing personal against Matthew Berry. I’ve read his stuff and, while it’s not my cup of tea, it is fitting for the broad ESPN audience.

    I didn’t think our write-up of the interview particularly qualified as an ‘ambush’ and don’t revel in being associated by him as the reason why blogs are awful. But we definitely dish it out here so can’t expect not to get it in return…

  70. sean says:
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    @John: Thanks for commenting and for reading. I enjoy this website because it’s an open forum where people with all kinds of questions, ideas, and theories can bounce their thoughts off of one another. Open discourse is glorious, and open discourse about fantasy baseball is even better.

    Earlier, I was commenting about the hypocrisy that is fantasy “expertise” as touted by ESPN and the like. Berry is but one of a generation of overpaid, overglorified “celebrities” hawking tired strategy and snake oil to the fantasy gaming masses.

    For the record, I don’t have any personal animosity toward Berry; I’m just cautiously pessimistic about any corporate-crowned fantasy gurus. I’m sure he doles out some good info; he wouldn’t have a job if he didn’t. It’s just unfortunate that when Berry came into some GENTLE criticism and tomfoolery by the boys here that his response was to bash Razzball and its founders instead of having a sense of humor and remembering that he’s not all that far removed from a blogger himself.

  71. Garrett says:
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    So lame, he can’t let this go. No he’s a martyr for taking the question:

    David(Frisco, TX): Thanks to your earlier post, I became aware of the XX interview. After reading it, it became apparent to me that the ego-maniac running that site is attempting to use the negative pub to garner attention for his efforts. If you read any of his previous work, then it is easy to conclude that he really believes that he is smarter than everyone else. That’s always a sign of stupidity. Also, he has an unhealthy fascination with you and ESPN. It’s obvious that he is jealous of your success. Good. Regardless, kudos to you for remaining profesional in a very unprofessional setting. Whoever posted that question earlier today was either that guy or someone without a clue. Either way, he (it?) didn’t deserve any attention on your board. Now, if XX or whoever thinks you’re God himself then I can understand his anger and resentment. But, you’re just a dude who has worked hard to make the most of your opportunities. And, all you’re really doing is giving us your thoughts as to an inherently unpredictable math problem with a multitude of variables and outside influences. It’s just math or statistical analysis with color commentary. I find it hard to comprehend how anyone can get angry over your predictions. Accordingly, it’s easy to make the necessary conclusions about him(it?). I don’t want you to post this because I do not want XXX to get anymore publicity than he already has. Let’s not reward his bad behavior. I know you don’t need a pat on the back or the affirmations from a stranger to validate your work…but it can’t hurt. Keep up the good job. It’s stuff like this that makes me even more of a fan. I’ll post this a few times to make sure it catches your eye. Have a good one bro.

    SportsNation Matthew Berry – Talented Mr. Roto: (8:04 PM ET ) I edited it. Thanks for the kind words. It comes with the gig, what are you gonna do? But I like to be honest and answer questions I can – even if they are about uncomfortable subjects… not a big deal.

  72. Garrett says:
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    I just posted this, and this was his response:

    “Tell David in Frisco to relax. The dude at Razzball is funny, and has great stuff (already called the Ervin injury, for example). You work in a public forum and should be able to take some criticism. You’re coming off as extremely insecure. If you took the time to read his stuff you’d appreciate it. How did he ambush you when ESPN contacted him? He claims the interview is word for word other than deleting the boring parts, so I don’t get what your problem is with the interview.”

    SportsNation Matthew Berry – Talented Mr. Roto: (8:46 PM ET ) Garrett in Boston: Without getting too much into it, that’s not true.

    PS: I’ve officially turned into a FB loser getting in the middle of an expert quarrel, w 2 dudes I have never met.

  73. Grey

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    @Garrett: Not sure what part isn’t true when I have emails from their publicity department and an audio of the interview. He’s just trying to save face because Deadspin linked to the interview the other day and he probably got crap for it from his buddies.

  74. James says:
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    On a side note – Delmon Young is ripping it up in the spring (homered today).

  75. Grey

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    @James: I like him a lot. Definitely worth a flier in some leagues. Has 20/20 potential.

  76. James says:
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    Dingleberry has fans? I try not to listen to him or anyone of his ilk, but when I do they seem to just state the obvious.

  77. James says:
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    @Grey – I am only playing in a keeper league this year, and I think ill have to get him somehow. Unfortunately, I am having trouble getting in everyone I want at the bottom (Cueto and now Young).

  78. James says:
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    Who do you guys like among Johnson, Slowey, Cueto, and Weaver?

    I can get three out of the four. In addition, keep in this is a keeper H2H league and these are my bottom three pitchers (I am looking for upside). I leaning towards Slowey, Cueto, and Weaver. The main reason I have left out Johnson is his WHIP. I understand that Cueto will probably have the same trouble, but his K/9/upside make him worth the risk in my mind.

  79. Grey

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    @James: I like all four. I’d put them in the exact same order.

    EDIT: Typo. Word.

  80. Colin says:
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    I picked up Sandoval in a deal today for 2 players I’m not keeping. I expect him to hit 20 with 85-90 RBI.

  81. Ashley says:
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    Thanks Grey!

    I offered Markakis, Halladay, Scherzer, and Weaver for Kemp and Billingsley… If it’s accepted I’ll add Parra and Jiminez.

    Is there a reason why you like Sanchez the least? He went 8-5, 115 K’s, 3.97 ERA in 111 IP pre-all star break. And was a disaster in the 2nd half.

    I read the Matt Berry interview, initially I didn’t because I wasn’t sure if it was real.. He definitely doesn’t have a sense of humor.. I went and read a couple of his article and atleast he seems to love Nolasco =)

    But that’s probably not a good thing..

  82. Grey

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    @Colin: I’d expect 17 HRs, but tomato-tomahto.

    @Ashley: Sanchez’s extra innings and he lost himself so much last half that he worries me. I don’t think on the Giants he’s worth the risk. Of course, he’s talented, but I’d take a pass this year and probably will like him next year.

  83. BigFatHippo says:
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    @Grey: Wow, I’m gone a couple days and you’re in a snit with Matthew Berry?

    Too much fun.

    All I got to say is this, Razzball Nation is behind you 99%.

  84. Juice says:
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    And now for something completely different. Can you please advice me on who you would rather own in a points league Ellsbury or Kemp. Votto or Davis.

  85. mc serch says:
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    I’m loving the hip hop style beef. Don’t go to Vegas Grey! I thought the interview was very funny for whatever its worth. Anyway, I’ve decided that I must have C. Davis and Votto this year. Davis seems to be going in the 6th on a regular basis. Is it too much of a reach to take Davis in the 5th and Votto in the 6th? I usu. take all offense for the first 6 or 7 rds. Davis and Votto seem like a nice way to cap that run before turning to some pitching. For example, earlier I drafted, in order: Pujols, Beltran, Phillips, Victorino, Davis and Votto. I guess I’m just finding the options underwhelming in rounds 5-8.

  86. Grey

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    @mc serch: This is like when you and Nice had that beef with Vanilla Ice. I like Votto a bit more than Davis, so I would take him before Davis, but it’s not a crazy reach to take either where you’re suggesting.

  87. Next up in the “Jew or not a Jew” game is Ian Snell.

    (He’s playing for Puerto Rico in the WBC, so there you go. I’d have lost that one.)

  88. Wow I am glad I read the Berry v. Razzball recap here. Brilliant stuff. I think it’s the masturbation joke at the end that made him uncomfortable. Which is ironic seeing as how he comes off (pun) as such a jerk-off in his columns, but whatevs.

    You’re way better, Grey. He doesn’t even have a fuckin moustache!

  89. Bob says:
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    @Grey – In my first Yahoo draft of the year which took place last night, I bagged Chipper at 3B. However, I decided I wanted Chipper insurance, so I made my first trade of the year – I picked up Zimmerman (who was drafted in the 7th) for Brad Ziegler (who I drafted in the 20th as a handcuff to Joey Devine). There’s nothing like misleading stats from last year to help you make these kind of trades early in the year. Yes, I know Devine may be injured and Ziegler might pick up some saves, but, hey, there’s always another crappy closer I can pick up later.

  90. Grey

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    @Bob: That’s a great trade! Well played.

  91. Bob says:
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    @Grey – I owe thanks to you for your thoughts and inspiration.

    BTW, apropros of nothing, Funston just published his “Bigger Board” over at Yahoo. He’s has Zimmerman #65. I don’t know if you bother to read the competitors, but I have to say, without trying to sound to “suck up”, yours is the one I use for my drafts.

  92. Tom says:
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    I sorta punted 3B and ended up with Lowell and Andy LaRoche. Dang it. My life is over. But wait. Everything else looks alright, and I got Felix, Wainwright, Josh Johnson on my staff with some cheap closers. I just feel a little dirty for punting such a huge position, but I got Utley, so I feel like it evens out. Question: When I find myself in the 17th, 18th and 19th rounds after having punted a 3rd baseman, should I start grabbing closers for trade bait, like the clever commenter above? I try not to rely on future trades in the middle of a draft, but I’ve noticed that saves will almost always get you something big. I got Bay for Gagne last year, before the season started. Bay for Gagne! Yes, Bay for Gagne. Someone called me a moron for giving up my saves.

    While I doubt I’ll pull off “Pujols for Percival,” I bet I can find a saves-hungry sucker willing to give up Zimmerman or Gordon.

  93. Grey

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    @Bob: Sweet! Yeah, I don’t read Yahoo.

    @Tom: Always Trade Saves! Always. Percival for Zimmerman you should do that trade yesterday.

  94. DwightEvans says:
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    Cantu and his one good season every 3 or Alex Gordon to break my heart for a third straight year?

  95. Grey

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    @DwightEvans: Break your heart with Gordon two rounds later.

  96. Rob says:
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    I drafted ARod in a deep league and need someone to fill in until he returns. Thoughts on Jed Lowrie or Kevin Kouzmanoff who are available on waivers.

  97. Grey

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    @Rob: I’d go with whoever’s hotter until Arod returns, so Lowrie right now.

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