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Psst!  This post is gonna list 2nd basemen that you should target in your 2014 fantasy baseball drafts.  I’m whispering because you don’t want everyone to see this post.  No, I can’t whisper louder.  Then it WOULDN’T BE WHISPERING!  Okay, gig’s up (or maybe that’s jig’s up), the love I’m about to reiterately (Made Up Word of the Day!) confirm are guys I love later in drafts. Am I drafting any of these guys in the first 12 rounds? Probably not (except for Brad Miller — hello, beautiful! Come here, let Grey massage your balls…The balls of your feet, silly!  Oh, that feels good on my hands.  Can I tickle your toes with my mustache?  Weird?). These are players that you’re looking at later and all of them have ADPs after 200.  Some could be the 2nd baseman on your team, they are more than likely MIs.  This is a (legal-in-all-countries-except-Spanish-speaking-ones) supplement to the top 20 2nd basemen for 2014 fantasy baseball.  Click on the player’s name where applicable to read more and see their 2014 projections.  Anyway, here’s some 2nd basemen to target for 2014 fantasy baseball:

Brad Miller (MDC 195, Yahoo 212, ESPN 299) – I dropped on you a Brad Miller sleeper post and ranked him about 100 spots before any other site.  Haven’t felt the love like I want so I’m gonna go over again why you should love him compared to others.  I’m going to take me out of the equation.  Steamer’s projections have him down for 83/15/63/.267/14.  Cousin Oliver’s projections have him down for 74/17/70/.273/13.  I have him down for 69/14/62/.272/13.  So, I’m not even the most optimistic.  If you believe Steamer (which you should since he had the best projections when Rudy makes the playing time adjustments), and compare Miller to Howie Kendrick’s projections at ESPN (67/12/66/.285/10), it’s not really close.  Miller is much better than Kendrick, and ESPN has Kendrick at 173 overall.  Rudy has Miller down for twelve dollars worth of fantasy value in Yahoo leagues (where he has 2nd base eligibility).  That’s more than Matt Carpenter, Daniel Murphy, Howie Kendrick, Brandon Phillips, Chase Utley, Jed Lowrie and on and on and on.  So, I love him, but you don’t even need to trust me to draft Miller.  Oh, and here’s what my dog Ted had to say about Brad Miller.

Jurickson Profar (Yahoo 192, MDC 217) I almost didn’t include Profar because I’m getting the sense that he’s being overvalued as a sleeper.  I still like him and if you can get him at a discount, then by all means.  I’m worried Profar might suffer from Bernie Williams Disease.  The Center for Disease Control and Prevention lists Bernie Williams Disease as a non-fatal disease that causes a runner to pick ‘em up and put ‘em down without going anywhere.  Colloquially, the disease is also known as GNF (Going Nowhere Fast).  Only real side effect to this disease is a player looks a whole lot faster than they actually are.

Kolten Wong – (ESPN 276, Yahoo 283, MDC 331)  You’re going to get a director’s cut blurb.  Before Mark Ellis signed with the Cards, I wrote this but never posted it, “Now that Kolten Wong gets a full time job, he’ll immediately be mixed league relevant and around a top fifteen option with a chance for more.  He reminds me of Pedroia and not just because both need their tippy-toes to get on a roller coaster.  A 2nd baseman with 10-homer, 20-steal speed and a solid average is legit, but also on the precipice of Whatever.  He comes up short — no comment on his size — and he’s a guy that gives 7 homers and 15 steals with a .280 average and is exactly that — whatever.  This is the nature of what hitting has become.  Goodbye are the days when you were deciding between a 30-homer and a 30-steal 2nd baseman.  Am I as excited about him like I’m a pre-teen girl going to see One Direction?  Nope, but I’m not entirely sure why not.  He’s as cute as Harry Styles, but I think his yawnstipating first dip in the majors is playing a role in my lack of enthusiasm.  If he would’ve played better after his promotion, I’d be slightly more jazzed, bebopping around.  Knowing the Cards though, he’ll probably get 120 runs batting out of the eight hole.  I’m only half joking.  No idea which half, but since girls laugh when I remove my pants I’m gonna say it’s my bottom half that’s joking.”  And that’s me quoting non-posted me!  Then the Cardinals grabbed Mark Ellis and wet-blanketed the heck out of my already waning enthusiasm.  I bet there’s gonna be a moment in the summer when Ellis is hurt and I’m telling people to grab Wong like Pee Wee Herman in an adult theater, but for now, your league has to be deep to draft him.

Josh Rutledge (Yahoo 293, MDC 435, ESPN unranked) Everyone who followed my lead last year got burned by Josh Rutledge, and you might get burned by Nolan Arenado this year, but any time a guy in Coors has a chance to walk away with a full-time job, you have to take the gamble.  Rutledge still has 15/15 potential, and shouldn’t hit .235 again.  He might need to Jeff Gillooly DJ LeMahieu though.  BTW, I have a theory that one of the Daft Punk guys is really DJ LeMahieu.

Scooter Gennett (ESPN unranked, Yahoo unranked) The Brewers said Scooter (hehe) would start at 2nd base, but since they did that prior to trading away Weeks (nice negotiating tactic!), they now have a platoon that doesn’t work.  I wouldn’t be surprised if the Brewers give Weeks away for five cents on the dollar at some point during the year, but until that happens Scooter (seriously, your name makes me giggle) could win a full-time job because the Brewers are so done with Weeks.  If there was no Scooter (c’mon, it’s just silly!), the Brewers seem like they’re so fed up with Weeks they would play a man short before letting Weeks take the field.  It’s kinda like when you dislike a girl so much, you break up with her even if you don’t have a back-up option and you know this will mean a good two years before you have sex again.

Emilio Bonifacio (MDC 332, ESPN unranked, Yahoo unranked) Since I did my rankings, Bonifacio got the boot from the Royals and landed in Chicago.  The Purple Evolutionist supposedly has 2nd base on lock, but he’s a Quad-A player; Malbuena is making 3rd base the Not Corner and the outfield is a jamboree of playing time for players that have never been full-time players and may not know what to do with the job.  Bonifacio could replace any and/or all of them.  He might just platoon with Darwin to be The Evolvo Dinosaurio.  Shoot, let the Cubs go with just Rizzo on the right side of the field and just Bonifacio on the left.  Right now, Steamer’s Projections has Emily Goodface down for 206 ABs, but that feels low.  I have him down for 401, but that feels high.  I don’t hate the late-round gamble that Goodface can get the ABs and steals.

Anthony Rendon – (ESPN 240, Yahoo 253, MDC 268) Before you say there’s no 2nd basemen to draft late, there’s not.  It’s all right; if you follow my rankings, you’ll draft Gyorko much earlier then grab a shortstop for your MI spot.  If you go with a 2B for MI, Rendon might be nothing but a poor man’s Daniel Murphy.  Call him Daniel Burpy.  Rendon doesn’t have big upside with power or speed.  If he has a 10 HR, 3 SB year, it wouldn’t surprise me.  Ugh, I gotta get out of this blurb before I lower Rendon in my rankings.

Dee Gordon (ESPN unranked, Yahoo unranked, MDC unranked) – Alexander Guerrero really only had the unknown thing going for him.  It’s sorta like when a terrible professional wrestler dons a mask or some disguise and is suddenly taken serious, until he’s unmasked and gets pinned in under two minutes.  Alexander Guerrero is basically Doink the Clown.  The Dodgers unmasked Doink in Spring Training and are considering going with Dee Gordon.  I haven’t bumped Dee Gordon up in my rankings yet, because this situation is still fluid.  I have dropped Alexander Guerrero, because when a team that signs him doesn’t even want him, I have my doubts about taking him for my fantasy team.  Right now, I have Gordon down in my top 400 for 250 ABs and 25 steals.  He could easily get 40 steals and be a poor man’s EverCab.  I will call him WhateverCab,

  1. gareth says:
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    Your boy rajai, the king of sagnof, may be in line for more playing time in Detroit. his projected platoon partner (Andy dirks) is having back surgery and will be out three months. The tigers have stated they will use “in house” options to cover the dirks at bats. But Castellanos isn’t seeing any outfield action, and Don Kelly shouldn’t play that much (if at all, if the tigers had any sense). Comerica is pretty much made for Rajai. Hello triples! There’s a good chance hes on base for the kinsler, Cabrera, Martinez and Hunter to drive him in.

    All together now………….

    SAGNOF!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @gareth: Yeah, saw that… Will go over in next roundup…

  2. gareth says:
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    Actual rajai Davis excerpt from this article:

    “davis stole 45 bases last year and stated that he’s actually gotten faster, something which he thinks will allow him to steal even more than last year.”

    Stop the presses! The king of SAGNOF has found the fountain of youth! Hes like Donovan from indiana Jones and the last crusade. “You have stolen wisely.”

    http://www.blessyouboys.com/2014/3/4/5471134/andy-dirks-gone-12-weeks-for-back-surgery

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @gareth: Hope he’s referring to his bat speed against RHP. Career .255 hitter vs them and hit .228 last year. Davis is on the wrong side of platoon splits too often.

      • gareth says:
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        @Sky: the Indians have an all rhp staff so I’ll be happy if they play “rajai” (there – I said it, cram) all the time against them. Hopefully kill some rallies.

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          He’ll probably bat leadoff against lefties would be my guess but yeah, you’re safe from seeing him do much from the 9 spot against your RHP

      • Brett says:
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        @Sky: ha

      • Montezuma's Revenge... right now says:
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        @Grey: that is the coolest thing ever.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha

    • Cram It says:
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      @gareth: Say Rajai again. Go ahead, say Rajai one more time.

      • Jason says:
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        @Cram It: They speak English in What?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @gareth: G3

  3. Bombo Rivera says:
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    Time for my daily RCL plug. Four more titans of fantasy baseball signed up yesterday for the league that drafts this Saturday at 3:30 PM EST. You know you’re itching to do a draft that counts. . . sign up so I can stop cluttering up the comments!

    http://games.espn.go.com/flb/leagueoffice?leagueId=85371&seasonId=2014
    Password: mauerpower

  4. househildzoo says:
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    Grey, this is my third year of fantasy baseball, start of 7th plus league. I (we) haven’t lost yet. Let’s not start this year.

    • James says:
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      @househildzoo:

      if you never lose, then you need tougher leagues. I think i won my first few yahoo public leagues 15 years ago, then i realized private leagues against guys who know what is going on is where it is at. Now out of 4 leagues last year, i won 1, 2nd in 2 and 5th in the other.

  5. Raul says:
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    Whoa wait, you mean to tell me that Rudy has playing-time-adjustment-Steamer-projections? As in, “Rudy has overcome the one G.D. thing a points-leaguer wishes all stupid projections could just be better at”? Is there a link to this treasure trove of statistical analysis???

  6. Yescheese says:
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    Scooter !! Scoot scoot !

  7. centerfield_ballhawk says:
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    All things being equal… would you prefer Miller or Boegarts for your middle infidel spot (assuming both fall to after pick 150?)

  8. Billy Boy says:
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    I want to target Jedd Gyorko!!!

  9. Nimrod says:
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    In my 12 team league Miller is only SS eligible. Do you think he is a top 12 SS?

    • Aero says:
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      @Nimrod: It looks like he has Miller ranked as #10 SS (as shown in the war room spreadsheet).

      • Nimrod says:
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        @Aero: Thanks.

  10. NSA2518 says:
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    Grey,

    Off topic, but I’m in a 12 team keeper league – according to your top 400, Chapman is my fifth ranked possible keeper (out of 7). Do I keep him, or go with a lesser ranked every day player/starter? I’m looking at guys like Cain, Hamels or Lawrie…

    Thanks as always.

  11. de nachos says:
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    Finding it hard to get excited about anybody where they’re gonna go in smart leagues…I’m already pining for Cody Asche at 2nd next season.

    • Cram It says:
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      @de nachos: You can get excited about Kelly Johnson with me!

      • de nachos says:
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        @Cram It: guys with girls’ names are exciting in general. plus, johnson.

        • Chicken Dinner says:
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          @de nachos: Uh……..no.

  12. Malarkey says:
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    Señor Grey, I know here at Razzball we love us some Segura Sandwiches… they are delish… however, I was looking at some of the projected stats and have a question re: value. Would you rather pass Segura in the 3rd rd in favor of a power bat and grab Altuve in the 10th? I know ones a SS and the other a 2B, but speaking purely stats, they don’t seem very far apart:

    Segura – 84/10/51/40/.287
    Altuve- 80/8/63/33/.292

    Any thoughts?

    • jal179 says:
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      @Malarkey:

      Agree 3rd rd seems steep when a Bruce or maybe a Bautista is on the board.

      Anyone else ALWAYS come up short on steals using the war room tool?

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        @jal179: i know i do. im not that worried as my totals are usually in the 70-80% range. seems like to get 100% or higher youd have to sacrifice too much from the other 4 cats to be worth it.

      • Men-in-Cleats says:
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        @jal179:

        The guys I was targetting, including Bautista, went just before my 3.12 in my 14-teamer so looking at my rankings it was either Segura, a couple of pitchers, a couple of guys at positions I didn’t need, or Rios so I took Segura. Would have liked to have had Joey Bats last another two picks but ended up with Rios after the turn at 4.03.

      • Alky Sobrera says:
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        @jal179:

        Same issue as well, but it’s the easiest spot to address during the season, so I try not to worry about it either.

    • Dingbat says:
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      @Malarkey: I’ve been thinking along the same lines. With a cheap 2B/SS like Miller, Lowrie, or Profar, you can really grab either Altuve or Segura and get close to the same stats. In that case, go with the cheaper dude.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Malarkey: Segura has upside on the power, Altuve has downside on his power…

  13. OldMIlwaukeePounders says:
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    Awesome Gillooly reference, Grey.

  14. JDW says:
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    I’m sorta worried about Profar’s mediocre call-up last year, his awful stint in South American winter ball and the fact that he is slated to hit EIGHTH in the lineup. Last year I was in the first year of a deep keeper league. I was so desperate to secure him that I drafted him in the seventh round – about five rounds or more earlier than anyone in the league expected him to go. The sort of pick where the message board lit up with a bunch of “DUDE! REALLY!?? 7th Round!!?? WTF!!!” I thought it SAVVY!! Nope. Stupid. The league was right. This year? Dude is going back in the pool. I’d rather try to get him in the auction than let him take up one of too few keeper slots in our league.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @JDW: I’m concerned too

    • Birdmann says:
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      @JDW: Dee could out perform him for much less.

      • Goose says:
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        @Birdmann: Profar’s “awful” stint in South American winter ball?

        Rangers infielder Jurickson Profar had a productive offseason playing in the Dominican Winter League. He hit .284 with a .439 on-base percentage, .836 OPS, one home run, one triple, five doubles, five RBI, six stolen bases, 20 runs and 24 walks in 25 games for Licey.

        Licey general manager Manny Acta, the former major league manager and current analyst on ESPN’s Baseball Tonight telecasts, said Profar was “the most impressive player down here, alongside Gregory Polanco. … he showed his All-Star potential at the plate and defensively,” Acta said. “Plate discipline and hand-eye coordination were outstanding. … Mature beyond his age, but definitely needs to play every day for his own good.”

        • JDW says:
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          @Goose:

          If 1HR, 5 RBI, 6SBs (with 3 caught stealing) and 5 doubles in 88ABs – in winterball – is what you want from the next great MI, then you can have him. The 20 runs and 24BBs is undeniably sweet, though. Nice to see the plate discipline. I hope I’m wrong. And he’s young. And it’s not his fault I bought into the hype two years too early.

  15. MattH says:
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    If i don’t get Cano it’s gonna be one of these guys i think.
    Great job on the pre-season stuff!

  16. JDW says:
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    “I’m telling people to grab Wong…” haha!! You coulda stopped there – it was already gold. But the Pee-Wee blast burnished it, buffed it, made it shine.

    “sooo shiny it looked like it was painted!” (Taste of Chocolate, BDK, ’90)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @JDW: Ha, thanks!

  17. Corey II says:
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    Keepers question for everyone. NL only, 10 team, 2 C league. Need to pick 5.

    Cashner $4
    Gee $4
    Gattis $5
    Medlen $8
    Bailey $10
    Samardizja $10
    DWright $22

    Thanks! Love the blog!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Corey II: Thanks! Not Medlen or Gee

  18. Are you warming up on Dustin Ackley’s chances this season? If he qualifies @ 2B, is he worth rolling dice on in standard 12 team 5×5?

    • Grey

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      @Danny Machado: I don’t mind him in a deep league… Will probably tell everyone to pick him up once it’s confirmed he’s the everyday guy and batting leadoff…

      • @Grey: Thanks. Yeah, I’ve also noticed that Wong isn’t getting drafted in some standard 12 team 5×5 mocks. I’m thinking that maybe 2B is a position I can hold out on? Between Wong, Gordon and maybe Ackley and others you list, waiver wire and/or late pick in draft should cover 2B

        • Grey

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          Yup, agreed

  19. Sky

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    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Sky: Nice

  20. mymrbig says:
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    Rendon doesn’t have much upside?!? Small sample size (326 PA), but his career line in the minors is .269/.408/.531. Injuries have been an issue, but prorate his minor league numbers to a full season and he has 40 doubles, 12 triples, and 24 homers, to go with a sparkley BB/K ratio. The majority of that is at AA and doesn’t turn 24 until June!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @mymrbig: …”his career line in the minors is .269/.408/.531″ It’s a’ight…

      • mymrbig says:
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        @Grey:

        That is an ISO way over .200, very nice for a 2b (less nice for a not-2b). But how quickly does the power he showed in the minors translate to the majors? THAT is the question! His .262 minor league ISO is higher than any ISO by a major league 2b in the last decade.

        Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he’s going to show that kind of power in the majors. I’m just not sure saying he “doesn’t have big upside with power” is accurate given his minor league production.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          He’s young so it could come, but it’s not just me… I don’t see one person saying Rendon will hit more than 15 homers this year…

    • BTD says:
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      @mymrbig: I’m with Grey. He’s not a power hitter at this point, even for a 2B. If your league has OBP or OPS, then he’s benefits more than others though.

  21. jerk says:
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    all of these 2b seem pretty mediocre. Are you saying you’re avoiding any of the ‘good’ 2b?

    what are your thoughts on Lawrie as your 2b? He seems to have Kipnis-type upside — maybe fewer steals…but he’ll go so much later/cheaper.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @jerk: I like Gyorko a lot as mentioned a couple dozen times… Lawrie’s fine around 140th overall…

  22. Birdmann says:
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    Miller went in the tenth rd in my 14 team, kills me, I wanted him later had to settle on Peralta. I picked up Dee yesterday after watching him make those great plays from second. I have Baez on my NA should be covered up the middle if Dee makes the squad.

    • Birdmann says:
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      @Birdmann: Jedd Gyro is at second.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Birdmann: Is this a question or an observation?

      • Birdmann says:
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        @J-FOH: just a heads up that Miller is going early might not be a good value.

        • willy says:
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          @Birdmann: miller went in the 10th round of a yahoo mock i was in yesterday… 12 team rotisserie standard

          • Birdmann says:
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            @willy: he loses his value that high, I thought 10 in a 14 was high

  23. The Thumb says:
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    I would like to see more of Ted.

  24. Dingbat says:
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    Hi Grey!

    I’d appreciate your thoughts on this team I just mock-drafted. My league is doing an auction for the first time this year, so this was my first practice run – Yahoo format, 12 teams. Aramis and Headley were the result of me trying to get cute and bid people up (I could’ve grabbed Donaldson for $11 instead), and I got a little screwed by auto-draft when I left to walk my dog (grabbed Beltran and Lowrie with money I wanted to spend on pitchers), but overall I’m pretty happy with the team.

    Compared to Yahoo’s values, it looks like Rosario, Abreu, Puig, and Miller are all easy to grab for hitters, and Salazar, Burnett, and Griffin are all easy to grab for pitchers. Other good pitching targets include Fister, Cingrani, Gray, and Samardzija.

    C: Wilin Rosario, $17
    1B: Jose Abreu, $14
    2B: Brad Miller, $3
    3B: Aramis Ramirez, $8
    SS: Jean Segura, $24
    OF: Justin Upton, $27
    OF: Yasiel Puig, $29
    OF: Norichika Aoki, $7
    UT: Billy Butler, $10
    UT: David Ortiz, $19
    BN: Carlos Beltran, $18
    BN: Chase Headley, $3
    BN: Jed Lowrie, $4
    BN: Will Venable, $7

    SP: Cliff Lee, $30
    SP: Mat Latos, $19
    SP: Danny Salazar, $8
    SP: A.J. Griffin, $2
    SP: A.J. Burnett, $1
    RP: Ernesto Frieri, $5
    RP: Nate Jones, $3
    RP: John Axford, $1
    RP: Jim Henderson, $1

    • Cram It says:
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      @Dingbat: Offense looks a little weak in the HR/RBI department. SP is too shallow after top 3.

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Cram It: He’s not that bad off but lots of things need to go his way, the double ?-marks at the corners would be my only concern.

        • Cram It says:
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          @J-FOH: Right, depends how you look at. Upside for sure, but too many question marks (unproven youth/health of older guys) for my liking. I wouldn’t want that team.

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Cram It: what I I would do and what is good are two different things

            • Cram It says:
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              @J-FOH: True. I never take your advice anyway, except for who to handcuff RB1′s with.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Cram It: I haven’t even written a baseball article yet. you know you’re going to be reading my creeper of the week….I have very good creepy credentials

                • Birdmann says:
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                  @J-FOH: creepiest guy I know.

                  • Prez!! says:
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                    @Birdmann: haha nice!

                • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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                  @Prez!!: @J-FOH: you and everybody else around here.

          • Dingbat says:
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            @Cram It: Thanks for the feedback. So what would fix the offense? Would swapping A-Gon, Donaldson, and Gyorko for Abreu, Ramirez, and Miller be enough?

            • BTD says:
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              @Dingbat: Rosario is great and all… but I’d pocket $10-15 of that C money. But C is among the more risky non-P positions.

              Now dump your ‘savings’ in with the $8 and $3 you’ve got allocated for 3B and now you’re talking a legit $20-25 3B player (Zimmerman/Wright-esque).

              You’ve also got $7 of dead weight on your bench. I’m not talking about the value of Venable the player, I’m talking what you’ve given up as an alternative to having that money going toward an SP or another starting slot. (I get your logic with Lowrie and Headley to some extent as a hedge for noobness/age, but I’m sure some would debate that too.)

              I like AJ Burnett for $1. But not a fan of AJ Griffin as your #4. Another few dollars from the Venable savings could probably land you a Liriano or Lester type.

            • Cram It says:
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              @Dingbat: Basically what BTD said. You’ve got way too much money on the bench that could’ve gone to upgrades at other positions.

      • Dingbat says:
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        @Cram It: Thanks! I thought I was okay in HRs, with Abreu, Ortiz, Puig, Rosario, and Upton all projected to get ~25-30 HRs, and Miller, Aramis, Venable, and Butler expected to get 15-20. I agree with you about the RBIs and pitcher depth, though.

    • Alky Sobrera says:
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      @Dingbat:

      I wouldn’t lean too heavily on the mock auctions. From my personal experience, getting salazar around 8, any of your closers at around the price you have them, abreu at 14, and lowrie at 4, is unrealistic. Mocks already tell you very little over at yahoo, the mock auctions are worse yet.

  25. trick dad says:
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    Holds league…do you prefer Boone Logan or david carpenter?

  26. trick dad says:
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    Holds league…do you prefer Boone Logan or david carpenter (ATL)?

    • Birdmann says:
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      @trick dad: ESPN format or innings cap. ESPN where relief innings don’t count Carp, max innings Logan. Carp would often pitch more than one inning last year. I want my holds guys one and done.

  27. Chad Donaldson says:
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    Need some advice with my keepers, listed below are the givens and then need help with the remaining.

    Keeping: Posey, Longo, Hosmer, Desmond, Machado, McCutchen, Jose Fernandez

    Need 1 out of these 3 remaning starting pitchers: Sale, Bailey, G Cole

    Thanks

  28. Kumquat Man says:
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    Miller is available in my 12 team OBP league. Right now, I’m playing Lowrie at 2B, with Tulo/Segura holding down the MI/SS spots. I’ve got Rendon sitting on my bench. Worth dropping Rendon for Miller?

    • Kumquat Man says:
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      @Kumquat Man: Actually, just messed around with your 5×5 OBP player rater, and it seems to suggest dropping Corey Hart for Miller, and throwing Rendon in as my 1B/3B slot there, and keeping Miller around as a backup. My teams got plenty of OFs, so I’m not worried about the depth there, and Lowrie has shown he’s a bit frail.

      • Kumquat Man says:
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        @Kumquat Man: Self reply #2, just realized Rendon is only 2B eligible, and I confused him with Arenado. Oh jeez.

  29. Oaktownsteve says:
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    Dee Gordon has filled out a bit. Saw him turn on a ball and hit it with some authority. Turned a routine double into a routine triple. Guerrero also looks like he’ll hit. Jon Schoop outside chance at the O’s job. Kid looks like he’ll be a beast. Spring battles.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Dee Gordon was 127 pounds, so I’m gonna guess you mean relatively… Emoticon…

      • MattTruss223 says:
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        Think I heard Vin Scully say he added 15 lbs!! That’s 15% of his body weight!!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Maybe he’s preggers

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Grey: i’ve seen “listed” as 150 but those lie all the time. If so he’s around how much i’d weigh if i was 3 inches taller.

  30. don julio says:
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    doing a online keeper draft; guys I have so far.. just missed Gray, but Fister and Masterson are still there.

    But Jennings looks like best avail, but yelich and leonys martin are still on the board, who has better upside?

    any closers you really like, that will go late in a draft… i like jim henderson, anyone else?

    Posey
    Pujols
    Kipnis
    Alvarez
    Hanley
    Jones
    Gordon
    Beltran

    Schrezer
    Latos
    Tehran
    Cobb
    Salazar

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nate Jones… You have 5 starters already, I don’t know the league setup, but I don’t think you need another starter yet… Take Jennings…

      • don julio says:
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        @Grey: Forgot I have Shelby Miller as well.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Even more so

          • frankgrimes says:
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            @Grey: I love 8 team leagues

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Grimey! How’s the vaping going? You stop smoking cigarillos completely?

              • frankgrimes says:
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                @Grey: it’s going great I’ve completely stopped cigs. once i got a MVP then a provari mini I enjoyed the ease of use and vape so much more. I now use a spheroid which is amaze balls and my cartotanks. funny how your a part of why I stopped smoking Thanks brother!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Great! Glad to hear that… No idea what a speriod is, you’ve passed me in e-cig knowledge… Ha… I just use the iTaste, have been for a while… It works for me, easy to fit in pockets and lasts for a while…

                  • frankgrimes says:
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                    @Grey: I don’t know how to post a pic so check it out: http://is.gd/VQLcT3
                    the spheroid u have to build it but its hella easy and makes your juices taste so much better

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I can’t build things though… Maybe I can go to my vape spot and have them build it for me…

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I hear your concern but its really hard to take a site serious with these types of ads on the side:

                    • FrankGrimes says:
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                      @frankgrimes: @Chicken Dinner: thanks but there is a lot of misinformation in that article good looking out tho!

                      @Sky: squatty potty! haha I Heard bout that on Stern.

                    • costaricanchata says:
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                      @frankgrimes:

                      how do you clean that thing ?
                      looks like it can get pretty , uh , grimey .

  31. Wilsonian says:
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    Sweet mother 2B is shallow as shizz this year. I’m excited for Miller. That excitement makes me sad. But I’m probably going to be taking the sound advice of Ted and drafting him.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha… Yup!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      It’s going to be a year where 2B gets stronger over the course of the season with call ups and surprises but definitely not a position to heavily invest in on draft day.

      • Wilsonian says:
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        @Sky: oh yeah, I can see that. But after the top 3, and maybe 4 if Sparky plays like he isn’t old, it’s a crapshoot. There are a bunch of guys I wouldn’t touch, and then a few guys that are old that COULD be ok, and then a bunch of young guys that might be incredible, but are also unproven. Doesn’t sound like something you want to be tossing Benjamins for on draft day.

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          You’re preaching to the choir. I have Gyorko and Altuve as reasonable pickups. Maybe Hill if he falls late enough is worth it to me. Outside of that, meh. Rather just take crap and wait for Baez to take over at 2B or a surprise guy to show up.

          • Wilsonian says:
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            @Sky: I love me some Baez. But I’m a Cubs fan, so it’s good to see them finally not trade off some minor league talent that might actually be an impact player.

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              You should have a fun summer with all that youth coming up.

  32. Alky Sobrera says:
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    Loving these target posts. The ADP breakdown + value gained is the way I try to draft as well. So far have miller on every team, and just praying he lands and gets most of his ABs at the top of the order.

    Now a question for grey and/or anyone who cares to weigh in. Yahoo 12 teamer, standard 5×5 roto, drafted out of the 3rd spot. 162 games played limit for batting per slot.

    C: Castro
    1b: Goldy
    2b: Gyorko
    SS: Miller
    3b: Frazier (missed out by waiting too long + worthless talk from brian price about having the reds run more, even though I know spring talk is useless)
    OF: Puig (a fat puig is a tastier puig!)
    OF: Cargo-lite
    OF: Werth
    Util: Pooholes
    Util: Aoki
    Bench: Avisail
    Bench: Rut (because i’m a glutton for punishment)

    SP: Anibal
    SP: Liriano
    SP: K-zar (another razzball special, on every team atm)
    SP: Cashner
    SP: Kluber (i’m all in on him!)
    RP: Chapman
    RP: Holland
    RP: Robertson
    RP: Cishek
    RP: Benoit
    I know the pitching looks very unlike a razzball team with all the high end relievers, but I plan on exploiting the high k/9 with prudent streaming.

    Question is, the offense looks to be power heavy and speed light (not the worst problem to have), with avg possibly a concern. Should I consider doing a goldy for cutch straight trade? Or do I sit tight and grab speed guys at the end of the yr to boost stats? Obviously trading a closer is a more than viable strat for me as well, and I’m more than willing to do it, but that is a more complex deal to swing imo.

    Sorry about the long post, thanks to anyone who takes the time to read it/answer.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d keep Goldy, grab speed guys as they become available in-season and when it’s obvious you need them… I do agree with the assessment of the team though… You will have more than enough saves to trade once the season starts…

      • Alky Sobrera says:
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        @Grey:
        Appreciate it as always my mustachioed messiah.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  33. Lville Jim says:
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    Doink, aka The Brooklyn Brawler. As the Brawler didn’t he set some record for ineptitude for most consecutive losses and had a gimmick of patting himself on the back whenever he executed a good move? Lest we forget his mini me Dink.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha… That’s Alexander Guerrero!

      • L'ville Jim says:
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        @Grey: My bad the back patting loser was Barry Horowitz. He teamed with the Brawler in some tag team matches when the Brawler was Steve Lombardi.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah… Yeah, that makes sense… Barry Horowitz, nice blast from the past… The accountant/wrestler…

  34. Mauer, ... or not to Mauer says:
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    In a keeper league, 10-team H2H, our league employs 5 pitching slots and 2 RP slots. I typ. only rock 1 RP but this year I have 2 decent guys: Kimbrel & Chapman. What I’m asking is we keep 12 guys in total (league is heavy on pitching) can you,
    pick 3 of the next 5:
    Mauer, Cobb, Altuve, Chapman, M. Holliday, Rizzo
    (of these guys, if I don’t take them, I can’t draft them – but I like Cobb, Mauer and Holliday)

    Keepers already choosen (9 of 12) – Votto, Goldy, Desmond, Bruce, McCutch, Braun, Sale, Bailey, Kimbrel

    • Mauer, ... or not to Mauer says:
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      Also,
      meant to say “Hey grey”
      and I appreciate all your hard work / advise over the years.
      Jish

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        No problem

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Aroldis, Holliday, Cobb… Could see Altuve over Holliday…

      • Mauer, ... or not to Mauer says:
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        thanks grey

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  35. Mike says:
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    Great read as always Grey!
    Did you skip 1B because its a deeper position?? Is the __ to target series more for the shallower ones??

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I’m not gonna do 1B… You shouldn’t mess with flyers at 1st…

      • Mike says:
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        @Grey: Great! Just checking

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  36. MattTruss223 says:
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    How late are we comfortable taking Iwakuma? My NFBC staff is a train wreck right now, so I’m looking for a possible gamble. I’m at pick 172 debating him or my third OF, Mr. Torii two i’s. My starting staff consists of Liriano and Salazar at the moment, not the prettiest sight. What do you think Grey?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I think that’s about the right spot for him… You should definitely have 3 SPs soon…

      • MattTruss223 says:
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        @Grey: Thats what I thought, guys kept getting scooped on me, had Ryu queued up for my last pick and he got sniped 1 pick before me. So I took a RP, I at least have two of them out of the way already. Round 12, hopefully that finger gets better soon, thanks Grey.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Are you in my league? I’m in round 12 too…

          • MattTruss223 says:
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            @Grey: No, I missed the pleasure of you and Rudy, sad emoticon

      • MattTruss223 says:
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        @Grey: FWIW his NFBC ADP is 103. No doubt bouyed by his pre injury drafting, but he’s from pick 63-195. With 17 picks between mine, I’d be crossing my fingers someone like Kuroda or Griffin made it back to me. NFBC vs. Razzballers is tough!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          He was just taken in my league… So, guess that answers my question on whether you’re in my league…

          • MattTruss223 says:
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            @Grey: Huh, that’s weird shizz, cuz I’m definitely not. Haha, maybe that guy read my post and thought it sounded like a good idea.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Haha… Prolly!

  37. Ziggy says:
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    Dynasty league (holds matter as much as saves):
    Yordano Ventura or Bruce Rondon?

    Please rank:
    Masterson, Cobb, Iwakuma, Minor, Cashner
    &
    Brothers, Frieri, Axford, C.Allen, Soria

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ventura… I’ve ranked players in the rankings

  38. Bill S. Preston, Esq. says:
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    I know this is the 2nd base post, but have you noticed that Chris Carter has an ADP around 60 at MDC? They must be a lot more confident in his batting average upside over there.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Bill S. Preston, Esq.: way higher there than anywhere, i saw it a few weeks ago.

  39. Rocky Colavito says:
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    Keeper indecision: 13 team roto obp league

    Can only keep three of these options in the rounds indicated:

    Prince Fielder 1st round; Jose Bautista 2nd round; Jacoby Ellsbury 3rd round; Alex Gordon 6th round; Starling Marte 14th round; Andrelton Simmons 23rd round; Shelby Miller 16th round.

    Opinions?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Fielder, Ellsbury, Marte

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t read anything about an injury there… Just behind, right?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          They’re just babying him… He’ll prolly get slotted into the 5th spot in the rotation and miss the first ten days of the season…

      • West Brooklyn says:
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        @Grey:

        They are taking things very slow with Salazar this spring. They is no injury and there is no innings cap. They want him fresh for the whole year while they try to compete. K-zar is in for a tremendous year!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I see no reason to worry about this in the first week of March…

          • frankgrimes says:
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            @Grey: hype is too high for him. having own him last year if memory serves me he rarely went far into games he would have two great innings then be all fast balls and get rocked He is sexy but a risky pick for where he is going now

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yup, prolly

  40. Jay says:
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    i’m in a little snafu…

    planning for the draft. I’m looking to fill my IF and OF spot. If things break my way could be looking at two options
    a. OF being Stanton Cuddyer Jennins and having Hosmer at my IF
    b. OF being Stanton, Cudder, Alex gordon, and having Gyorko at my IF

    I like Hosmer this year but i like the OF a lot more by taking Gordon. Do you like the later availability of IF or OF better? Drafting Hosmer over gordon and targeting Jennings i would still go after gyorko but he would my bench bat and I could target an OF late in the draft (looking you Kalhoun, Avisail, or bourjous). Drafting Gordon would move gyorko into my IF spot and I could target either an IF or OF later in the draft.

    i hope that makes sense. I may need to step away from my draft prep…..

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Later availability of IF is better…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @Grey: this should move him off of top 400 then huh.

  41. Jay_0321 says:
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    Offered Manny Machado who has full three year eligibility for my Cespedes who only has two years left. Do this?

    Thanks,

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Machado

  42. bill@bong.com says:
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    10 Team H2H – Who would you guys keep using your final pick (Rd. 23) – PUIG or SEGURA?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Puig

  43. CJ says:
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    Grey – Do you see any chance of Beckham making a decent come back this year or beyond? Dynasty format, no $, etc and only have Carp besides him. I know that no one out there has faith but I trying to imagine a decent healthy comeback year (27yrs too). Then next year my prospects will hopefully take over. I have been trying to make moves for the Murphy, Dozier, Kinsler’s of the world but not trying to sell youth/talent for that type player and waivers are slim pickin’s but a DJ or Sogard are available… LOVE your site by the way! Any thoughts will help, I thank you…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I’d go with Beckham over Carp if your next available options are DJ/Sogard

      • CJ says:
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        Thanks sir – I have Carp penciled in to start at 2b but if he Gordon can play well the shift to 3rd is an option too. Are you on the Carp last year was a fluke? He was a waiver grab wk 1 last yr and helped me for sure… I traded Jedd on a panic move when Hanley for hurt in WBC and it hurts every time I see a rankings or profile… you rock and are hilarious as you may know… 1st time poster!

          • CJ says:
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            I will check that out Grey thanks… My league is all keepers, no $ no contracts so Carp is on my team until he wets the bed or someone wants to trade. Very deep league when DJ Meh and Eric Soga~ehh~d are the only thing out there.! Adios amigo~~

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Ah, gotcha…

  44. Whatever says:
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    Hi Grey,

    I have a bit of quandary. In my ten team mixed keeper (OBP) i can only keep nine guys as I won the league.

    My keeper list is as follows with ($$): Miggy (47), Adam Jones (29), Beltre (20), Zobrist (16), Bautista (13), Everth Cabrera (10), Darvish (7), Kenley Jansen (6), Molina (1)

    I also have Gyorko for 6 but in order to keep him I need to drop a keeper and if I drop Zobrist its an 8 dollar penalty due to a long term contract. I have been getting a lot of interest in Gyorko so not sure if I should trade him or keep him.

    What do you think?

    Thanks in advance.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t know what you can trade him for… But I’d drop Zobrist for Gyorko…

  45. Bryce Krispie Treats says:
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    Grey,

    How do you think I should approach my offense in this year’s draft? (12 team, 5×5, $260 budget). Positions – C, 1b, 2b, 3b, SS, O, O, O, U, U.

    These are my keepers – Goldy – $26, Harper – $8, Marte – $3, Freeman – $15, G. Cole – $2 Total – $54

    I prefer to only draft 1 offensive bench spot, so that leaves me with 7 guys to draft for offense. I plan on taking your boys Miller and Brantley, but these guys are cheaper. How do you think I should go about planning the rest of my offense? Any quick suggestions?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You’re a bit light on power going into your 5th hitter… Miller and Brantley might not be the right guys for your team…

      • Bryce krispie treats says:
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        @Grey: I usually try to plan my first few picks out and I plan on going miggy and fielder. Would you recommend this? Or what combo would you recommend with my first two picks?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Those first two would work…Wouldn’t touch another no-speed, corner man for 100 picks though…

          • Bryce krispie treats says:
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            @Grey: if I had my way, my final offensive roster would be gattis, goldy, gyorko, miggy, miller, harper, marte, brantley, fielder, freeman, and my bench spot open to anyone who falls far enough. Any final evaluations? Might be a bit far fetched because auctions are so unpredictable, but this would be my goal.

            • Grey

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              Looks like a solid team… Only small issue is there’s not much flexibility, but that’s a really small issue…

  46. stynyr says:
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    Hey Grey,
    10-team, H2H, 5×5

    My keepers are: Braun, CarGo, Rizzo, Longoria, Kershaw

    I pick 6th in the first round and 15th in the second. Below is a list of who hasn’t been kept in order of your Top 100. Who do you think I should target for the first two rounds?

    Bautista
    Segura
    Rios
    Scherzer
    Desmond
    Strasburg
    Choo
    Andrus
    Kinsler
    Reyes
    Lee
    Hosmer
    Marte
    Gordon
    Gomez
    Jose Fernandez
    Sale
    Donaldson
    Pence
    Bailey
    Teheran
    A-Gon
    Jose Abreu
    Greinke
    Moore

    As always, thank you.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Segura, Rios or Choo… Skip Bautista cause Rizzo and Longo won’t hit for great averages…

  47. The Fuzz says:
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    Below is the core team from a 12tm roto yahoo mock where I tried a weird strategy. Plugged it into the war room with favorable results (>100% in all categories but W and SB). Could (2) uber-elite closers be a solid strategy at yahoo because of late pitching value?

    C – A.J. Pierzynski
    1B – Anthony Rizzo
    2B – Jose Altuve
    SS – Jean Segura
    3B – Cody Asche (or Arenado)
    OF – Adam Jones
    OF – Bryce Harper
    OF – Jay Bruce
    UT – Michael Brantley
    UT – Jose Abreu

    SP – Alex Cobb
    SP – Justin Masterson
    SP – Sonny Gray
    SP – Danny Salazar
    SP – Chris Tillman
    SP – Corey Kluber
    RP – Aroldis Chapman
    RP – Kenley Jansen
    RP – Nate Jones

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sure, it could work if you can get that hitting and starting pitching… Take Aroldis and Kenley in some leagues and you’re gonna be screwed somewhere else…

      • The Fuzz says:
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        @Grey: True, I know for a fact it would never work for an ESPN roster, but I’ve done it a couple times at yahoo and gotten very similar lineups. There is just so much late value for hitting/pitching I feel like I waste a pick in the 5th-6th round by reaching for someone high in your rankings that would still be there in a couple rounds at yahoo. When I take kimbrel/jansen/chapman there I don’t seem to lose anything, and I can take 2 back to back and be even be fine.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, could see that… Yahoo has some good bargains later on…

    • Alky Sobrera says:
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      @The Fuzz:

      I’ve done a handful of pro drafts at yahoo, and that roster is a bit loaded. However, you can absolutely land 4 of those SPs, and either 1 of chap/jansen to go with a holland/rosenthal, and still come out fine with starters late and solid hitting. Probably would lose altuve, abreu, or rizzo though. Abreu goes a lot earlier in real drafts, more so than most players’ mock v. real difference.

      Hope that helps.

  48. the talented mr dope man says:
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    12 tm al only

    gardner @ $22

    OR

    Rajai Davis @ $16

    ???

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rajai

  49. anarchy burger says:
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    even though razzball is my go to site i subscribe to rotowire (i know i am a whore). they just put out their top 350 list. they have an “expert” who ranks adam jones as the 35th pick. is it normal that i want to fight said “expert”??

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’s normal… You paid for that?

  50. Westly says:
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    I have Josh Hamilton in a 16 team dynasty. Other OF are Cutch, Bautista, Avisial Garcia. is it time to drop Hamilton for whoever i can or you think he has one more golden year left in him. I already am kind of old and need some speed, any suggestions on fair trades? Rest of roster looks like this –

    McCann
    Votto
    Pedroia
    Pedro Alvarez
    Zobrist
    Bautista
    Cutch
    Josh Hamilton
    Avisail Garcia
    Cocoa Crisp

    Kershaw
    Waino
    Cobb
    Cashner
    Nathan
    Cody Allen
    Melancon
    Crow

    5×5 w/holds

    thanks Grey!

    Bux signed to Minors

    • Westly says:
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      @Westly: I shouldn’t say drop, more like dump

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I wouldn’t drop Hamilton in a 16 team league…. Maybe Hamilton for a cheap closer? You could use one…

  51. Chris says:
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    In my 12 team dynasty points league, I was offered Longoria/Butler for Salvador Perez/Freeman. I have Posey at catcher, Chris Davis and Rizzo at 1B already, but 3B was a black hole in 2013. Tell me why I shouldn’t take this deal.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Longo

  52. Prez!! says:
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    In our little bonfire of an rcl, are you cool with randomizing a draft order so we know our picks now? Our draft is saturday.

    • Cram It says:
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      @Prez!!: Oooh we can do that? That seems like cheating. In the sense that other RCL’s probably didn’t get that luxury. I’ll take it though!

      • Prez!! says:
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        @Cram It: i dont see that much of an advantage… More like a disadvantage cuz youll have 4 days to second guess yourself. Haha we did it in football last year, just wondering.. if not, no big deal.. gareth brought up draft order in another rcl and it made me remember that way of doing it.

        • Cram It says:
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          @Prez!!: Sounds like it would be an advantage, if for no other reason than you eliminate the 90 second pressure cooker to make your pick, at least for the first few rounds, where you could probably formulate a strategy easier.

          Personally, I’d love to know my spot ahead of time!

          • Prez!! says:
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            @Cram It: yeah i guess you are right.. 4 days is enuff time for OTS to cook up a recipe for domination.. not really too hard to make picks in the first couple of rounds tho.. and by the time you hit 3rd or 4th round, who knows whats gonna be there.

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            The best laid plans of mice and men oft go astray…

            When you plan your draft ahead of time, I feel you pigeon hole yourself. It makes it harder for you to react to the room and what’s going on because you’ve programmed how your draft could/should go. Then again, I could be assuming you get that meticulous. Have a friend in the keeper that does that to himself every damn year and wonders why he had such a hard time at the draft table.

            • Prez says:
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              @Sky: i agree. it leaves you more time to come up with reasons not to draft trout… oh i read he had a third nipple… he doesnt slide good.. this year his meema isnt doing well.. when if you were to just draft normally you wouldnt have time to think when drafting trout and he”ll have a great year.

              like i said, i dont think its a great, over the top advantage, but i can see someone who really wanted to get a leg up going thru and setting it up to precision round by round. you could narrow the options down in every round. not all will be there, of course, but you might be able to get a good grip on the round. even then though, it can all go wasted very easily and you just spent hours researching your draft pick for nothing.

              anyway, you want to know what puts us at a DISadvantage from all the other rcls? drafting march f**king 8th..

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                Hahaha, I have a draft tomorrow with the other writers. I look at it as an advantage because the guys you think will win the job outright will still go as low as they should. The closer to the season we get, the less you have to research who starts where.

            • Prez says:
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              @Sky: check my twitter… you will be happy..

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                I’m proud of you. Now I no longer want to serve you over easy.

                • Prez says:
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                  @Sky: im always scrambled anyway..

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    with cheese…

                    • Prez says:
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                      @Sky: mmmm cheeseeeeeeee

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah, wait until an hour before the draft…

      • Prez!! says:
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        @Grey: gotcha…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sorry, Prez!!, if it was up to me…Wait, it is… Just feels like an unnecessary advantage over other leagues…

          • Prez says:
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            @Grey: haha, yeah, i understand! although i dont think of it as a huge advantage, i agree that it wouldnt be unfair to the other rcls who couldnt do it.

            • Prez says:
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              would* be unfair

              • gareth says:
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                In response to my question about how the draft order works and who gets which spot, KID A kindly informed me that I was assigned the thirteenth spot in the draft this year. Such a helpful fella.

                By the way prezzii, how many rcl’s are you in this year?

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Ha

                • Prez!! says:
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                  @gareth: one rcl and the fcl. I was planning on doing another but now im up to 5 competitive/money leagues and want to win at least one… Haha so another league of any sort would be hectic.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yup

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: Prezii always looking for the advantage that’s why he only bangs drunk chicks

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  The way he was going after Brooke last year, not sure ‘only bangs drunk chicks’ applies…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: but she hadn’t seen him yet, once they see that mug they’re going to need to be drunk.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      She? Hmm…

                    • Prez!! says:
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                      @J-FOH: You mean, once she (he?) Sees this mug she’ll realize im too good for her!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: I was feeling like being nice to brooke today and acknowledging her female side

                    And no Prezii, if you live in a trailer down by the river, or in your case a wash, you’re not pretty. It’s impossible

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Haha… You’re sweet!

  53. flanwagon says:
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    Grey, please help with keepers… I can keep 5.

    Total Points, head to head, 12 teams, standard ESPN scoring & positions.

    Potential keepers…

    Votto
    Tulo
    Goldschmidt
    Crawford
    Puig
    Brawn
    Buxton

    Kershaw
    Bumgarner
    Samardzija
    Wheeler
    Cole
    Cigrani
    MMoore

    I’m thinking Goldy, Brawn, Puig, Tulo, Kershaw…

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Votto, Tulo, Goldy, Puig, Braun…Nice keepers…

      • flanwagon says:
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        @Grey:
        Not Kershaw??

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I guess if you want instead of Puig, but in a 12 team league I don’t see any reason to have Kershaw…

  54. The Situation says:
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    @Grey: Dynasty league question. H2H, 10 keepers, 6×6 (w/BB and holds), w/CI, MI, 4OF, 2Util.

    My keepers are:
    1B: Encarnacion
    2B: Altuve
    SS: Everth
    CI: Pujols
    OF: Cespedes, Yelich, Springer
    SP: Wainwright, Latos, Zimmermann

    Trade options:
    A) I give Encarnacion + Wainwright + Everth for Chris Davis + Gio Gonzalez + Segura
    B) I give Encarnacion + Wainwright for Goldschmidt + Gio Gonzalez

    I am rebuilding, so my primary objective is to get younger. If BBs were not a category, I would definitely take the Segura deal, but the inclusion of BBs closes the value gap between Segura and Everth, which has me thinking that I should just ante up for the most highly coveted asset, which is definitely Goldschmidt. A, B or stand pat? Really appreciate the advice.

    • The Situation says:
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      @The Situation: My bad, my 10th keeper is Rizzo at Util1 instead of Altuve. Probably won’t factor into your response anyway. Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Take Segura deal

      • The Situation says:
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        @Grey: Thanks Grey. EE and Wainwright are my two biggest assets, so I need to hit on this deal if I’m going to turn this team around.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I hear ya

          • The Situation says:
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            @Grey: In your opinion, is this a slam dunk deal for the Segura trade, or is that side just marginally better than going with the Goldy deal?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              It’s solidly in your favor

              • The Situation says:
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                @Grey: Sorry man, I wasn’t clear – I was asking whether you think the Davis/Segura trade option far or only slightly outweighs the Goldy trade option. Despite 15 years of roto experience, I have never played H2H before, so I’m a little out of my comfort zone here.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  It’s better than the Goldy deal.. The Goldy isn’t bad for you…

  55. Scott says:
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    In the comments on your PEDS post regarding snake drafts, you mentioned that you were planning a post about Auction draft strategy. Just wondering if that’s still to come or if I somehow missed it.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It’ll come, just have a lot to get through… Maybe Thursday…

  56. Cigs McCoughsalot says:
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    Anyway that we can get a whole post dedicated to vaping?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha… Nice username, I thought it was McCougsalot at first…

  57. anthony says:
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    @grey: would you trade the #4 pick in a h2h draft for 9-10 ? at 4 i really want to grab mccutchen but i feel like he will go 3rd and goldscmidt will fall to me – at the same time the thought of grabbing harper at 9-10 and them adam jones seems more appealing. What do you honestly think ? please dont point be tlo the top 100 looking for advice here …

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I honestly would follow my rankings… Just take Goldy 4th if you can get him…

  58. Mike says:
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    I have to announce my keepers in a few days and Taijuan’s injury is making me nervous. I’m in a dynasty league and my last keeper spot is down to Walker(rnd 30), Ryu(rnd 29) and Cashner(19). Who should I keep? My other SP keeper definites are Stras,Jose,Cobb,Miller..

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Take Walker

  59. Fister Furbush says:
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    Welcome back from the off season. I’m still pretty high coming off a super bowl win from the Seahawks, but i’ve never been more ready for baseball.

    When and who are you taking as your SP1 (If Kershaw isn’t there). H2H Points 10 team

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Congrats on the win! Check out my rankings…

  60. The Dude says:
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    Shallow league (10 team) – 5×5 OBP/QS – Keep 5:

    Billy Hamilton – $7
    Wil Myers – $6
    Oscar Taveras – $6
    Hunter Pence – $8
    Jurickson Profar – $10
    Xander Bogaerts – $10
    Doug Fister -$8
    Shelby Miller – $6
    David Robertson – $6
    Zack Wheeler – $10

    Yeah, I’m a little heavy on the rookie nookie due to being out of it and trading my talent for youth last season.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hamilton, Myers, Pence, Profar, Miller… Not great…

      • The Dude says:
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        @Grey: Yeah, my grand schemes last year didn’t pan out, but these options are better than Stanton for $42…

        I was looking at the same set of players except Robertson instead of Miller. This is somewhat based on your top 400 where Robertson is 14 spots higher and $11 vs $10.

        Is it Shelby’s upside that makes him more attractive? Or SAGNOF?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I almost said Robertson instead of Miller so if you wanna go that way I wouldn’t object

          • The Dude says:
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            @Grey: Thanks, as always

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              No problem

  61. Prez says:
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    just realized the season starts on the 22nd… for some reason i thought it started on the 28th.. i already have been telling my league were gonna draft on the 27th… haha whoops.. prez gotta get his head in the game and out of his ass….

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Prez: WAKE UP KID EH!

      • Prez!! says:
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        @J-FOH: idk why i thought it started on the 28th… I think i know everything…

      • Kid A says:
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        @J-FOH: If that’s a veiled criticism about me… I won’t hear it. And I won’t respond to it.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Kid A: it was a play on words you narcissistic ass

          • Kid A says:
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            @J-FOH: Your development is arrested.

        • Prez!! says:
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          @Kid A: he doesnt know what hes saying… Just typing random shit that he thinks makes sense…

          Dogglepiper! Snowglass! Watershingle!

        • Prez!! says:
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          @Kid A: technically tho, you did both hear and respond.. technically…

          Bobsledwaterhose!

          • Kid A says:
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            @Prez!!: Shouldn’t you be consulting a Mayan calendar to try and figure out what century you are going to set the draft for in our league?

            • Prez!! says:
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              @Kid A: haha i think 2 draft changes is a pretty high step up from the 27 in jacks league.. think we skimmed over every day in march only to draft our original date…

              • Kid A says:
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                @Prez!!: I lowered the expectation bar considerably after he revealed that he vapes through his nose.

                • Prez!! says:
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                  @Kid A: HAHA!!! Seriously… Well im glad ur expectations were high for me… Key word being “were”.

                  • Kid A says:
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                    @Prez!!: Now the key word is just “high”.

                    • Prez!! says:
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                      @Kid A: haha! Nice… And yes, indeed it is…

  62. Pine Tar Incident says:
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    When’s the podcast coming back? I miss Nick.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Next week is the word

  63. 2 Giant rings says:
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    I have Rodney as the closer and Farquhar as second in line in Seattle. Smokey has Farquhar as closer and Wilhemson second in line. Am I wrong, he wrong, or somewhere in between?

  64. Prez!! says:
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    We are counting the aussie games right?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      They’re counted, but you can draft after them…

      • Prez!! says:
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        @Grey: oh really? Okay, then im not an idiot… Well i am… But, you know.. today im not!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ha

      • gareth says:
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        @Grey: if we drafted after the Dodgers diamondbacks international double header, wouldn’t the stats for those players who played in the 2 Australia games be different in our league compared to the actual stats recorded? I know 2 games are a drop in the ocean, but that information would not match up.

        For example:

        You’ll look at the tv half way into the season and see martin prado has a steal. Hes on your team and you KNOW he aint stolen anything. Then you go “ah, I remember now – he stole a base in Australia but that didn’t count in our league.

        That kind of thing.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Stats for those two games count…

          • gareth says:
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            @Grey: oh ok. So if goldy homers in Australia and you do the draft after that series then that homer still counts for you. Correct? Thanks for the clarification.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              You still get the homer, yeah…

              • gareth says:
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                @Grey: that’ll be an interesting scenario then if for example a guy like Patrick Corbin gives us 8 earned runs in the game in his start in Australia. Or Addison reed blows a save and gives up 3 runs.

                You’d be knowingly taking on those stats from those outings. yeesh.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, guys get discounted or bumped up because of it

        • Kid A says:
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          @gareth:

          I ask myself:

          Does garret really, actually, for reals, believe the things he says?

          OR

          Is this some sort of Sun Tzu – Art of War – feigning weakness shit?

          I’m fascinated to be in an RCL with him to see which is true.

          • gareth says:
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            @Kid A: art of war. Definitely.

    • Kid A says:
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      @Prez!!: Be careful, your synapses are on fire.

      • Prez!! says:
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        @Kid A: is it bad i had to google wat synapes are? Still not too sure… If you are referring to a nervous breakdown, then yes. Im about to have one… Very shortly…

        • Kid A says:
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          @Prez!!: well good thing you didn’t google “sin ape” some really kinky catholic chimpanzee porn comes up…

          • Prez!! says:
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            @Kid A: im sure sky has already linked it to me before….

  65. Andrew A says:
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    some experts say to aim to get $330 of value on your team at the draft. Does this mean your team needs to be worth $330 by the end of the year, or that you actually have to turn $260 into $330 at the draft (using current valuations). I prefer to use very conservative projections for my players when targeting stats, so it’s pretty hard to get to 330

    • Kid A says:
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      @Andrew A: brother?

      • Prez!! says:
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        @Kid A: ha!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      $330 is too high… I think in my AL-Only draft I got around $280… It means this, say you have Goldy for $43 and you get him for $41… You’re +$2… If you start at $260 and you get +$20, you end with $280…

      • Andrew A says:
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        @Grey:
        so you’re trying to get $280 or whatever number based on your draft values.

        Is the $330 (or a similar number) I’m thinking of maybe the end of season value benchmark?

        • Grey

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          $330 could be end of the year… I’d aim for $280, sure… You want a balanced team though, first and foremost…

  66. gareth says:
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    Whats everyone’s opinion on drafting before/after the doubleheader Dodgers diamondbacks series in Australia?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Draft after, before regular season… Spring training will still be going on while they are in Australia…

    • Kid A says:
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      @gareth: Have you considered setting your draft for September 28, 2014? Your life would be alot easier, I think.

  67. Mink says:
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    Grey:

    Is the real base stealing Billy (Burns) worth a late round flyer, or not enough AB’s to go around in Oaktown?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ezequiel lead the majors in steals last spring…

  68. SteveV says:
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    Keeper question. Pick 2 – Andrus-$20, Tuwlo-$33, Choo-17, Holliday-$20, Cole-$5

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Cole…Then toss up… Take Choo…

  69. The Flayed Man says:
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    How bad is this?

    12 team H2H yahoo 5×5 league. No bench players.

    I feel I really messed this draft up . I mistakenly drafted J Fernandez when I thought I had J Upton highlighted. Then got greedy with some players and let them go a round too long, then lost connection and went into auto draft for a few rounds.

    Just nervous about my last two OF and Util.

    C Salvador Pérez
    1B Prince Fielder
    2B Ian Kinsler
    3B Jedd Gyorko
    SS Jean Segura
    IF Anthony Rizzo
    IF Brad Miller
    OF Adam Jones
    OF Wil Myers
    OF Avisail García
    OF Christian Yelich
    Util Todd Frazier
    Util Khris Davis

    SP José Fernández
    SP Alex Cobb
    SP Doug Fister
    SP Sonny Gray
    SP Rick Porcello
    RP David Robertson
    RP Steve Cishek
    RP Chad Qualls

    P Chris Tillman
    P Drew Smyly
    P Martín Pérez

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      What you describe would make me think the team should be worse, but it’s not, so that’s good… Your pitching is stronger than you need it to be… You’ll probably be able to trade Jose Fernandez, but I’d hold off for now… Your hitting isn’t terrible, Garcia until the end could pan out, but there’s some question marks there…

  70. Snake Hips says:
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    Who do you like more long term in a keeper George Springer or Javier Baez?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Baez

  71. ChuckWagon says:
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    Heyo commentators. And Grey+

    I am in a 10×10 yahoo head to head keeper league. I drafted Matt Harvey last year in the 11th round, and I can keep him this year in the 11th round, hoping that he will be healthy next year, when I can keep him as a 10th rounder, and the following year as a 9th rounder. I can keep three total players this year as well. Is it worth sacrificing a 11th rounder this year, and basically holding Matt Harvey all year on the DL?

    Other players I am considering keeping, with their round values. Carlos Gonzalez (1), Kershaw (2), Carlos Gomez (12), Kenley Jansen (15), Strasburg (16), and Shelby Miller (22). Elite pitching is hoarded in this league, but we can keep players for a max of 4 total seasons before they are released back into the player pool. Keeper values stay the same for the 2nd year, and then escalate one round annually. This is the last year I can keep Kershaw and Strasburg.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Forget Harvey… I’d keep all of those other guys…Especially Strasburg, Gomez, Jansen, Kershaw, in that order

  72. darkness says:
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    Thanks for that link about True Detective the other day, interesting stuff. Can’t wait for the last episode.

    I can’t believe the pitching depth this year, so many steals late when it comes to guys like Kluber, Gosh Johnson and Kazmir outside the top 300 on ESPN (their rankings seem even more terrible than usual this year, ). What do you think of targeting a combo like Brandon Moss and Ryan Howard to platoon in a UTL position? I figure that both mash righties, and at least one of the two should face one on the majority of days. Would it be worth it to go for a strategy like this or do you think its better to go for a late value play in UTL. Some league specs include 24 man rosters, 6×6 (OPS), Head to Head, and you only start 9 bats (one being UTL).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem… Could work at UTIL, outside of deep leagues, you’re gonna cycle through UTIL guys anyway… I’d prefer a upside guy at UTIL…

  73. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    guy is willing to do my kinsler for his puig, if he can’t find better offers elsewhere, he’ll get back to me. If that happens my roster (start 2 a day OPS league) is
    C Lucroy/Gomes
    1B V-Mart/Santana/Swisher
    2B Kipnis/Gennett/Aviles
    3B Miggy/Aramis/Aviles/Francisco
    SS Segura/Asscab/Aviles/Iglesias
    LF Braun/K.davis/Brantley
    RF Hunter/Puig/Swisher
    CF Cargo 2/A-jax/Bourn
    basically i use 2 bench spots on Aviles/Swisher and they cover up any off days from pretty much any position not named LF. Bourn could be called up any week i’m super weak at steals.
    1.With this roster which guy is more expendable to try to trade for Miller from an owner currently not needing either SS or 2B but very much in need at LF (currently starting Leonys/Ackley), Brantley or K.Davis? I’m thinking Brantley is.

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: i know what the rankings say, but wondering if my team’s set up changes either to being more valuable, other chris davis or brantley?

  74. MB says:
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    If you are competing now, Would you trade Koji for either Perkins or D Robertson?

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope

  75. Eddy says:
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    Grey,

    n a 12-team H2H OBP, I have the following three keepers on offense

    Harper, Myers and Bautista.

    I’m drafting at the turn and it looks like Pujols, J-Up and Choo are the most appealing. I’m taking Pujols if he’s there, but which OF do you suggest? I know you have J-Up ranked higher, but damn, that blurb put me down on him. Choo is more steals and runs and I feel like his floor is a lot steadier than J-Up.

    What say you? Stick with J-Up?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I could see taking Choo since Bautista is a negative on average and a plus-plus on power…

  76. swinging3.0 says:
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    There should be a chat room in the lobby, like on draftstreet…

    boom goes the dynamite

    P.S. there should be ice cream, and water slides, and unicorns(not the gay kind (not that there’s anything wrong with the gay kind of unicorns)).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha

  77. 2 Cups 1 Braun says:
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    Was able to just snag Jedd Gyorko for my minor league squad and FA keeper value. I gave him Shields at a round 13 value but couldn’t keep him because I already have 8. Good deal or no and if I have to call up Jedd before the draft, who would you lose from the guys below?

    *Adrián Béltre 1
    *Yu Darvish 2
    *Max Scherzer  8
    *Brandon Phillips 18
    *José Bautista  22
    *Ian Desmond  23
    *Anthony Rizzo  24
    *Francisco Liriano FA/24

  78. Chris says:
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    Hello Grey, Thanks for the article.
    Which you be your 3 keepers from this group:
    Edwin Encarnacion, Stanton, J Upton, Pedroia, or Yu Darvish
    Thanks

    • Grey

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      Not the last two

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