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In past years, I’ve said the following analogy.  There’s years of looking up to your father, whether you agree all the time or not.  Then, one day, he takes a poop on your couch.  You take him to the hospital; he’s in need of some sort of psychology examination.  If the tests come back conclusive that he pooped the couch simply out of laziness, then that’s ESPN.  If tests come back that he’s gone crazy, well, over at Yahoo The Noise ranked Matt Carpenter 37th overall.  A recipe for success at Yahoo involves Kosher salt because you need to take Yahoo’s rankings with a bigger grain of salt.  Now, with that said, I think this year Yahoo’s flipped the script on ESPN.  Yahoo’s rankings are better this year, i.e., they’re closer to mine than ESPN.  At least that’s the vibe I get from looking at them, I didn’t actually stop and weigh the differences and divide that weight by pi to the seventh integer and multiply by X.  I simply looked at what they had vs. me and think Yahoo did a better job this year.  They have also changed their rankings dramatically in the last week.  See, I originally had The Noise down as ranking Carpenter 30th overall.  Just about every guy in the chart at the end of this post has moved closer to my rankings in the last week.  I’m not saying they’re copying (or they’re not copying fast enough), because, well, they’re still off and now it’s time to spit fire:

We should all be thanking Yahoo.  Since they’re hosting more fantasy drafts than any other site, they’re also steering more people in the most head-scratching ways.  I’ll happily draft Evan Longoria this year (as my top 20 shows).  Thanks to The Noise ranking him 30th overall, Longoria is all the way down at twenty-four in Yahoo’s overall rankings.  More Longo for us, so thank you.  By the by, I have the funkiest 2nd round as any fantasy baseball ‘pert.  Ride or die with L.J. Hoes and Grey Albright or just die with Albert Pujols, Jose Bautista and Evan Longoria way higher in my rankings.  I’ll address the elephant in the room.  Wait, Billy Butler already left my room.  Okay, I’ll address what seems like I have AARP-itis ranking these 2nd round old-timers so high.  Firstly, Longoria is 28 years old, so he’s not an old-timer and he wasn’t bad last year.  Secondly, Bautista and Pujols were hurt last year, but if you prorate their seasons to 155 games, they were on their usual paces.  Thirdly, no one hits 30 homers any more and these guys can.  Cliff Lee, he has nothing to do with this.  Fifthly, if they show they’re hurt in Spring Training, I’ll be the first one to drop them in the rankings, but right now they’re fine.

The biggest question I get is, “Do you use hair care products on your upper lip?”  The second biggest question I get is, “If Yahoo (ESPN, CBS, Fox, whoever) ranks this player way after you’ve ranked them, do you wait to draft them?”  The short answer is depends.  The long answer is deeeeeeeeeeeeepends.  I don’t risk losing a player I really want.  I want Anthony Rizzo more than humanly possible and have him ranked way before everyone else — around 4 rounds on average.  I could wait until a round before he’s taken, but I would veer on the safe side and take him two rounds before anyone’s thinking of him.  Could I get sniped by someone lurking over my shoulder, reading my rankings?  I suppose, but there’s other players I like so I’m fine with missing out on a guy here and there.  Do you hear how emotionally balanced I sound?  Marriage is treating me well!  (God damn, I wanna have sex with different women than my wife.  Is this normal?  I’m three months in.  Does it get easier?  Please tell me it does.)

(BTW, for those wondering if I’m going to look at CBS’s rankings, I’m not.  To throw it back to the intro analogy, CBS’s rankings are like a 3-month-old pooping on your couch.  If you use CBS’s rankings, you should’ve known better to leave non-diapered rankings where you didn’t want them to defecate.)

So, let’s cut out the jibber-jabbering, though I’m already failing on that front.  Sometimes I just can’t keep my big mouth shut. Thankfully, since I type with my tongue.  Did you know, when I type “HA!” I’m really trying to type, “Help Angola!”  Bono would know that.  Any the hoo!  I’m going to list players in a handy chart like I did the other day with ESPN.  The Thank You’s have it.  It being good value from my rankings vs. Yahoo’s.  The No Thank You’s don’t have it.  They’re bad people.  Meh, they might be okay people, but they’re likely not ending up on any of my Yahoo drafted teams.  For this, I’ll be using my 2014 fantasy baseball rankings (go figure!) and Yahoo’s 2014 fantasy baseball rankings (crazy, right?).

THANK YOU

Player Grey’s Ranking Yahoo’s Ranking Overall Difference
Overall Overall
Prince Fielder 7 17 10
Evan Longoria 11 24 13
Albert Pujols 12 45 33
Jose Bautista 14 29 15
Jay Bruce 20 41 21
Jean Segura 28 40 12
Alex Rios 29 44 15
Ian Kinsler 41 71 30
Eric Hosmer 46 68 22
Alex Cobb 54 83 29
Josh Donaldson 55 92 37
Homer Bailey 57 72 15
Julio Teheran 58 97 39
Anthony Rizzo 59 108 49
Jose Abreu 62 139 77
Jedd Gyorko 87 142 55
Aaron Hill 89 118 29
Sonny Gray 100 172 72
Nolan Arenado 119 146 27
Brad Miller 142 213 71
Jurickson Profar 143 175 32

NO THANK YOU

Player Grey’s Ranking Yahoo’s Ranking Overall Difference
Overall Overall
Clayton Kershaw 21 5 16
Jacoby Ellsbury 30 19 11
Carlos Gomez 50 21 29
Cole Hamels 126 76 50
Buster Posey 91 48 43
Matt Carpenter 102 61 41
Joe Mauer 221 52 169
Manny Machado 136 81 55
Pablo Sandoval 137 88 49
Martin Prado 206 129 73

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  1. goodfold2 says:
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    yahoo 12 team mock. you weren’t kidding when you said pitching is deep. i actually felt bad as i went much better than pitcher pairings told me to. H2H league so i got 8 SP.
    8. Jones OF
    17. Harper OF
    32. Freeman 1B
    41. Pujols 1B(2 utils in this league, only 3 OF, he was around too late to pass up twice)
    56. Annabelle SP (really could’ve waited it appears)
    65. Andrus SS (feels like i needed steals here)
    80 Donaldson 3B (don’t like him, but you do, compared to ADP’s, and big drop to next 3B)
    89. Beltran OF (seemed best HR guy around here, with Moss)
    104. Cobb SP
    113. Robertson RP (fell to a run and wasn’t waiting till 128, maybe should’ve)
    128 Gyorko 2B (missed Hill by one pick)
    137. Liriano SP (could’ve waited for weaker pitcher)
    152. Lucroy C (could’ve waited for Castro)
    161. Masterson SP
    176. Axford RP
    185. De Aza OF (knew I could get him this low too, based on yahoo ADP)
    200. Corbin SP
    209. Qualls RP
    224. Porcello SP
    233. Griffin SP
    248. Crain RP (can DL and this way i’ve locked up HOU closer spot, could’ve also got Lindstrom here)
    257. Avisail OF
    272. Kluber SP
    Other than only 1 bench hitter (i can get 2nd when i DL Crain) any issues?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @goodfold2: pitcher pairing post (PPP!) actually works well for bigger leagues much more (even up to 16, i used it last year in my bigger money 16 teamer)
      also only having drafted till this mock 16 and above teams ever except a 10 once (all of those 12-15?s from last year were orphan teams) i am starting to get just what you mean when you say you don’t need bench bats as decent (not good, but not terrible) guys at most every position abide in free agency at offense. Only grabbed Avisail since it seems he’s more likely to get jumped on, and Miller was drafted.

    • bossmanjunior says:
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      @goodfold2:

      I LOVE how late you can get Kluber. Im seriously going to own him on every team this year.

      • Tony Starks says:
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        @ashtray:

        Apologies m8@bossmanjunior:

        Do you like Kluber over Colon? Love Bartolo for his low ERA/WHIP especially pitching in the NL now but Kluber seems to have the higher ceiling while Colon has the higher floor

      • Sherm says:
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        @bossmanjunior: I’ve been mocking very similar to you– getting a lot of high Grey picks (last 1-5 = Trout, Puig, Wright, Bruce, Pujols). But note if you draft in the Grey style, leaving pitchers to later rounds and drafting Grey’s rankings, you will moat often end up 11th or 12th on the ESPN “Standings” tab of the mock draft. Even if War Room tells you you hit all your projections, ESPN will rank you low.

        • Kyman says:
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          @Sherm: I’m new to War Room do you assign every player to the team that drafted them, or only players on your team to get a ideal of your projections?

      • Buge Hoobs says:
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        @bossmanjunior: Take Kluber in a 10 team league as a last pick or Porcello?

        • bossmanjunior says:
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          @Buge Hoobs: potato/tomato…I prefer Kluber. Porcello might just be another Nolasco, meaning his peripherals are always better. Kluber made some great strides last year and looks to be sustainable.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @goodfold2: Yeah, pitching goes and goes…

  2. Giant Gigantes says:
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    Can’t wait to see where Mauer ends up seasons end.

    • Hawk says:
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      @Giant Gigantes:

      Me too. This is gonna be fantasy bragging or fantasy egg-on-face for a lot of ‘perts

  3. ken says:
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    thanks for all your great insight … I have 1st pick im going trout of course. on the way back my 2/3 picks ive been wondering if I should take Longo if hes there since you’ve been saying wait on 3rd. Im thinking Pujols, Votto E5 , Longo and maybe a Harper or Puig should be there. would you rather start trout albert longo or trout albert puig? Thanks keep up the good work

    • Jeff in Southern Indiana says:
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      @ken:
      I’d lean Longo.

      3B seems shallow to me. But you can always pray for Arenado to come through late.

    • frankgrimes says:
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      @ken: 8 team leagues are not fun

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        This picture disagrees with you (but I don’t):

        8 team league

        • frankgrimes says:
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          @Sky: your going pic crazy

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            going? I’ve been at this game a while.

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @Sky: sky, you’d have to actually watch the show to figure out they’re in anything more than a 6 team league.

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            I have. Show is funny and enjoyable if you ignore the fact it’s supposed to be about Fantasy Sports. That part of it is pure shite. The rest is a buncha grown-ass men acting like they’re still in high school.

      • ken says:
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        its a 10 team that’s been in existence for 20 plus years for pretty nice coin. I would respectfully disagree. @frankgrimes:

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @ken: Trout, Longo, Pujols

      • ken says:
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        much appreciated Grey@Grey:

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  4. 2 Giant rings says:
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    I had 4 involuntary laugh out loud moments that woke my girlfriend. It’s cool, she says.. Really? I say, Grey. She gets that. I think you are wrong on Sandoval, Grey. He is motivated enough to lose 42lbs in a contract year. He actually has stomach muscle definition. The guy is very capable of hitting north of .300. I understand your logic on the Panda. I just believe you take a bath on that one. You are the best.

    • bossmanjunior says:
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      @2 Giant rings:

      Must have gave all of his fat to Jesus Montero.

    • Count de Monetball says:
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      @2 Giant rings: My favorite line Grey said about Panda “Draft him, just don’t overreach based on how he looks in a bathing suit”

    • Cram It says:
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      @2 Giant rings: I don’t know, every year we hear about guys that either put on weight or lost weight or became a vegan or stopped chewing gum and the subsequent arguments as to why those changes will help or hurt them. And in the end, it really has no bearing on their year. They do what they were going to do anyway.

    • Jeff P says:
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      @2 Giant rings:
      See Josh Hamilton, 2013

    • frankgrimes says:
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      @2 Giant rings: if that fat sack ever stays healthy for a complete year maybe we will finally see

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @2 Giant rings: Thanks! I just drafted Panda the other day… This is where Yahoo has him, doesn’t mean I won’t draft him if he’s there…

  5. RickeysHotSauce says:
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    Liriano is a prominent ‘thank you.’ Difference is 70 (Grey) v 147 (current Yahoo O-Rank)

  6. bossmanjunior says:
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    Any concern yet with Pujols? I assume we can table these concerns until game action actually starts in the next couple of weeks. Reportedly he is still having foot issues and will be limited to DH duty to start the season. If this continues to linger and I miss out on a top 1B, I might opt to wait for Agon in the 7th rather than take the risk with Pujols.

    • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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      @bossmanjunior: I’m definitely concerned, myself.

      • hoog says:
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        @RandomItalicizedVoice: where are you seeing this? All I’m seeing is that he is completely healthy and ready to go. The Angels are Judy l just going to ease him in to playing 1b. I have him in a keeper so now you got me worrying…

    • Matt says:
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      @bossmanjunior: yeah I was wondering the same thing about pujols he’s one of my keepers and I have heard only that he is healthy and ready to go.

      • jal179 says:
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        Agon ranked in the 50s now– he’ll be gone by the 5th round now. Also, Ortiz moved up to the 50s with Yahoo’s latest rankngs update.

    • centerfield_ballhawk says:
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      @bossmanjunior: Pujols scares me… avoiding him like the plague.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @bossmanjunior: I agree with Hoog… Have heard nothing but positive reports thus far… Even if he could only DH, it is early…

      • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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        @Grey: Any caution at all, IMO, is reason to be concerned. Especially when it comes to plantar fascia injuries. Those injuries are infamous for being very slow to heal and recurring. Anyway, it has mostly to do with my own policy of tending to avoid players that begin the season injured, or are a question mark with regards to injury. Been burned too many times on pre-existing condition discounts. I would not be surprised to see him hit your numbers Grey, but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see a repeat of last season. That’s too much risk for where you have him ranked, IMO. He’s not going that high in any draft I’ve seen…he’s probably a good gamble about where Yahoo has him ranked, or perhaps a bit earlier. So…unlikely I own him this year, I guess.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I hear ya… Or you could get him in the 5th round in some drafts…

          • RandomItalicizedVoice says:
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            @Grey: Yep. The one draft I’ve done so far he went with the 3rd pick in the 5th. I like him there. I passed over him for Choo with the 6th pick in the 4th and would probably do so again. I would have taken him with my next pick for sure (got Hosmer instead).

            • Grey

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              Yeah, I’d be all over him there…

      • bossmanjunior says:
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        @Grey:

        Believe I saw it on the MASH report for Rotographs last week. Just report saying he wouldn’t play 1B to start the season. The author (Zimmerman) seemed concerned about his health because of this and that he might be a bigger risk than previously assumed.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Ah…Yeah, I don’t know, it’s still early, so we’ll see…

    • Buge Hoobs says:
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      @bossmanjunior: Let’s say you have the 3rd pick in a 10 teamer, and you go with AuSchizz, Longo and an OF, say Joey Bats, for your first 3 picks. In Round 4, who would you take (league has two U spots) Pujols, Segura or the Mad Bum?

      • bossmanjunior says:
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        @Buge Hoobs:

        Segura

  7. Vacation says:
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    Help me Grey and others:

    5×5 roto keeper league in which each team keeps 6 players from previous roster. My best 6 are:

    Miggy
    AuSchizz
    J.Upton
    Yu Darvish
    Heyward
    Kimbrel

    I’ve been offered Harper and Segura for Miggy, meaning I’d have to throw either Heyward or Kimbrel back. Do it or no?

    • WisBrave says:
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      Do it, in a keeper league youth will help in long run and the deal won’t kill you this year. In a redraft league I wouldn’t do it. After this year Miggy looses 3rd eligibility and he’s on the wrong side of 30. Still probably top 1st baseman but for how much longer?

    • Cram It says:
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      @Vacation: Keeper league I’d do that.

    • seph meier says:
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      @Vacation:

      Would the team that offered be keeping harper and segura if you don’t make the trade? Can you exploit any draft pick out of it and use the yahoo/ESPN rankings to back your argument that segura is “not” that great?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Vacation: Sure, throw back Heyward

  8. John says:
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    Grey,

    Of course it gets easier.

    (signed)
    My Wife

    p.s. SHE’S LYING!

      • Beastman says:
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        @Grey: It NEVER gets easier. Never, never, never. Especially since monogamous sexual relationships aren’t really compatible with our inherent biology. Or so some learned people with acronyms following their names have been claiming lately.

        Like this dude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54uG_6dtMoU

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thanks for the inspiring words, ha… I don’t want to watch a video of that guy talking about sex…

  9. Dom says:
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    10 team, AL only, 4×4, auction style($260), can keep up to 15, mine are:
    Loney ($5), Lowrie ($6), Beltre ($39), Escobar ($11), Hamilton ($30), Rasmus ($8), Arcia ($3), Ortiz ($9), Archer ($10), Gray ($4), Griffin ($7), Holland ($9), Perkins ($14); Uehara ($7), Tillman ($3)

    With Cain ($10) and Hector Santiago ($7) on the outside looking in.

    Continuation from last week. You recommended I offer Perkins ($14), Gray ($4) and Arcia ($3) for Adams Jones ($29). I ended up only offering him Perkins and Arcia, he has countered asking for Holland ($9) and Arcia. If I do this trade, I keep Cain ($10). Do I pull the trigger or continue to negotiate? I really want Jones.

    Same league, different owner – offered me Teixeira ($5) for Gray ($4). Yes or no?

    Same league, another owner – offered me Fielder ($41) for Uehara ($7). I’m leaning no because I hate the size of Fielder…’s contract.

    Do I do all three trades? One, two? A closer is valued at around $25 in this league. And people love young/inexpensive players.

    • Dom says:
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      @Dom: Also note that Teixeria only qualifies at DH/Utl, which means both my DH spots are take with him and Ortiz.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Dom: Pull the trigger for Jones… No on Gray… No on Fielder…

  10. The Thumb says:
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    Hey Grey, 10 team roto standard (with saves + holds). I had the 10th pick. Only thing that possibly worries me on the starter side is WHIP. Being sv+hld, I always wait on relievers until it becomes a necessity because there’s always players on waivers.
    C – Lucroy
    1 – Pujols
    2 – Gyorko
    SS – Andrus
    3 – Beltre
    MI – Everth
    CI – Abreu
    OF – Jones
    OF – Bruce
    OF – Pence
    Util – Beltran
    Util – Hart

    Bn – Calhoun
    Bn – Middlebrooks
    Bn – Jeter (obligation to myself)

    SP – Anibal
    SP – Salazar
    SP – Gray
    SP – Liriano
    SP – Masterson
    SP – Taijuan
    SP – Gausman
    RP – Frieri
    RP – Feliz
    RP – Melancon
    RP – Clippard
    RP – Benoit
    Any in put would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

    • RFB108 says:
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      @The Thumb: I’m in a 6×6 Roto w. Holds/Saves. I’ve always been stubborn by drafting 5-6 SP and waiting on relievers. I always come up short on ERA/WHIP and Holds. Winners seem to go light on SP and lean on quality relievers to pick up the slack on Ws. Trying that approach this year and hope I don’t end up chasing wins.

      • The Thumb says:
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        @RFB108: this is my second year doing sv+hld. I was really lucky with my punt all closers strategy last year with Joel Peralta and David Robertson (as well as working the SAGNOF waiver wire). Those guys were practically as valuable as top tier closers because they finished in the high 30s for holds. I feel like there are enough top tier set up guys that you can afford drafting a Frieri/Cishek as your first closer and still have a competitive team. They might wind up being your RP3

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Thumb: What did the War Room say? http://razzball.com/draft/ Team looks pretty solid, some would say the pitching is a bit too risky, but doesn’t look terrible to me… Gausman’s not a good pick anymore, bumped for Ubaldo, unless you’re drafting him for Holds, which I’m not sure he’ll get…

      • The Thumb says:
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        @Grey: We have an NA spot so Gausman could fill in there. I thought he still had a shot at 5th starter. Doesn’t really matter though as he was my last round pick.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Maybe with an injury to someone he sneaks in…

  11. Donald trump says:
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    It doesn’t get easier… You will always want to have sex with other women. Try working the back door… That will occupy you for the next twelve months or so.

    • de nachos says:
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      @Donald trump: I don’t know if I’d go there only three months in, it’s easy to run out of places to park the car. Or as a whole sale deterrant, just check out Woody in True Detective, episode six and he’s already on his second round of crazy puddy.

      But no, it doesn’t get easier. Unless you completely let yourself go and become repulsive to all forms of life, that works for some buddies of mine.

      I did a CBS mock last night and it looked they adjusted Jean Segura up (boo!) and Bryce Harper down (yay!). But I was gobsmacked to see George Springer flying up the OF rankings.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @de nachos: making oneself repulsive doesn’t make the repulsive person want the others he can’t get any less; however it would make it easier to actually remain faithful.

    • Tony Starks says:
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      @Donald trump:

      I used to enjoy the back door visits w/ this one lovely gal. And then one time I pulled my pepper out and it was candy-striped (except the candy was a mocha color). Ewww. Never again. My quota has now been filled lol

    • ashtray says:
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      @Donald trump: I will never be able to erase this thread from my mind.

    • Prez!! says:
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      We really went there huh?

  12. The Strolg says:
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    Your desire to own a Chicago Cubs first baseman will subside much easier than wanting to bang the smoking hot chick at the end of the bar.

  13. Pete says:
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    I’ve seen Ryan Braun go mid to late first round in a bunch of mock drafts this season. If he looks good in the spring, how high would you bump him up your draft rankings? I have the 8th overall and his top 3 upside has me intrigued at 8. Cargo’s injuries scare me, and since we count OBP in my league, guys like Jones and Davis are downgraded a little. Harper hasn’t done it yet. Need your help Grey. Do I consider Braun at 8?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Pete: I wouldn’t take Braun 8th as of right now, but if you’re feeling it, go for it…

  14. pasha says:
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    Keeper League, holding onto 4. Miggy (1st rnd), Goldy (5th rnd), Puig (25th rnd), Segura (17th rnd), Madbum (7th rnd), Wacha (25th rnd)….. the humanity. Per the article, yeah, espn and yahoo have some wackos over there.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @pasha: Ha…Not Wacha and Bum

  15. Andrew W says:
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    Great Review!

  16. Johan Barleycorn says:
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    My good man,

    I’m in a 10 team 6×6 (OPS and QS) h2h. Keep a minimum of three/maximum of five:

    Matt Holliday-costs a 6th rounder
    Segura-9th
    Willin Rosario-12th
    Rizzo-14th
    Fister-16th
    Cingrani-18th
    Sonny Gray-20th
    Xander-21st
    Profar-24th
    Cashner-26th

    Thank you, kind sir. Great work this preseason.

  17. TheBurghler says:
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    About to take my first closer in a NFBC draft champions slow draft, who do you like better….Reed, Papellbon, Grilli, or Cishek?

  18. attgig says:
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    any significant changes to Nelson Cruz’ ranking now that’ he’s with the O’s?

    • Cheese says:
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      @attgig: read the Cruz blurb in the rankings to find out

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @attgig: Nah, no changes

  19. joe gaynes says:
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    Keeper league (4 keepers)

    I trade Tulo and my 15th rd pick
    I get Pujols and his 7th rd pick

    Was going to ask for a higher draft pick in either the 6th or 5th rd. Thoughts?

  20. Niceguybilly says:
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    Grey,
    It doesn’t get easier,
    but the good news is that I’ve become a really good fantasy baseballer since I’ve been married!
    ~single tear runs down cheek~

  21. Blue says:
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    My theory is, once you get out of the first 8-10 rounds, get the guys you want even if it is an “overpay.” I once did an analysis of the imputed auction value of picks by draft order and the “cost difference” between, say, 12th Round and 16th or 17th Round is really small–a couple or three bucks as I recall. So don’t skimp–if you’ve drafted well at the top draft to win at the bottom.

    • Blue says:
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      @Blue: Shorter from my experience: no Neal Freaking Walkers in the 16th Round!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Blue: Agreed

  22. Anthony says:
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    Darvish for $22 or a pick-two-combo of Cobb $7, Wacha $1, or Cain $12?

  23. Fish says:
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    To be fair to The Noise (am I really writing that?), everyone is high on Matt Carpenter for some unknown reason… his ranking is that far off from the rest of the Yahoo! crew other than Dalton Del Don. And in Evans’ favor, he hates Mauer more than the average ‘pert.

    • Fish says:
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      @Fish:
      isn’t*

      Damn Typos!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Fish: True

  24. Clint says:
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    I’m still confused why people aren’t picking Fielder to have a bigger year. He’s in the best hitter’s park since he was a Brewer (I believe) and in the one of the better overall lineups he’s been in in years while still comparatively on the young side.

    Your draft style is so ME, Grey, love it. One thing I’ve wondered though: where in your blogs should I look for particular guys that aren’t projected studs but could go from mid tier to, say, top 10 or so at their positions? I’m thinking 2013 Goldy and Ellsbury quality guys, for example. Would they be in your Sleepers posts or where do you keep these nuggets?

    • DonSlaughtOnslaught says:
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      @Clint: it is in their ranking already if that makes sense. Grey had Goldschmidt ranked top 20 last year when no one else did, meaning he had top tier potentional.

      • GrimmReaper says:
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        According to Fangraphs Park Factors by Handedness Splits Texas is at 110 and Detroit at 100 for left handed hitters for the 2013 season. The factors were identical the previous two years. How might that be explained given the “jet stream” supposedly being gone? And, even if it is gone, might Fielder still benefit moving from a park that’s apparently still worse than a “jet stream-less” Arlington?@Rudy Gamble:

        • OaktownSteve says:
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          @GrimmReaper:

          Fangraph uses a multi year weighting for their park factors I believe. Since the change just went in last year, their park factors haven’t caught up.

        • that’s a rolling multi-year average. According to Bill James Handboook (which sources park factors from same source as FG), the Rangers stadium had an index of 100 for LHB HR and 106 for AVG in 2013. The 2011-2013 average is 120 for HR and 109 for AVG. So backing out 2011-2012, that was a 130 HR index and 115 for AVG.

          this takes into account both Texas hitters’ performance on home/road and opposing hitters. So there is no player bias on this. There is inherent volatility in this data but the combination of physical proof (they changed something in the stadium) + statistical proof makes me think that Ranger Stadium is now neutral for LH power.

          • GrimmReaper says:
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            @Rudy Gamble: Great info! Thanks for the quick follow up!

    • Blue says:
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      @Clint: Ryan Howard. Mo Vaughn.

  25. Benny says:
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    Which of these minor leaguers would you rather have forever in a dynasty league – Byron Buxton or Javier Baez?

    • John says:
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      @Benny: Buxton

    • centerfield_ballhawk says:
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      @Benny: Baez as he plays a more premium position.

      • Count de Monetball says:
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        @centerfield_ballhawk: FYI, Baez will probably be moved to third, although 2nd is a possibility.

      • claw dog says:
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        @centerfield_ballhawk: hes most likely moving to third with castro at short

  26. Big Al says:
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    Been doing a lot of mock drafts on different sites and your right the better corners are going off the board fast,especially 3B. Outfielders are also going off the board quickly. I’m thinking of drafting my 2nd and 3rd outfielder a round or two earlier. I have not been in a draft yet that Kershaw hasn’t gone in the first round. Bless those people. I hope there all in my drafts this year.

  27. Shawn of the livid says:
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    Hi Grey, would like your opinion (or fellow razzballers) on my first mock draft. I had 3rd pick. Rudy says take a SP instead of Kemp, which I could definitely see doing. Overall I like what I got.

    1. Miguel Cabrera (Det – 3B)
    2. Prince Fielder (Tex – 1B)
    3. Carlos Gómez (Mil – OF)
    4. Shin-Soo Choo (Tex – OF)
    5. Álex Ríos (Tex – OF)
    6. Hunter Pence (SF – OF)
    7. Matt Kemp (LAD – OF)
    8. Carlos Santana (Cle – C,1B)
    9. Alex Cobb (TB – SP)
    10. Joe Nathan (Det – RP)
    11. Hyun-jin Ryu (LAD – SP)
    12. David Robertson (NYY – RP)
    13. Masahiro Tanaka (NYY – SP)
    14. Jedd Gyorko (SD – 2B,3B)
    15. Huston Street (SD – RP)
    16. Brad Miller (Sea – 2B,SS)
    17. Sonny Gray (Oak – SP)
    18. Patrick Corbin (Ari – SP)
    19. Zack Wheeler (NYM – SP)
    20. Corey Kluber (Cle – SP)
    21. Alex Wood (Atl – SP,RP)
    22. Iván Nova (NYY – SP)
    23. George Springer (Hou – OF)

    Any red flags you see or things I should change up? Didn’t realize you don’t like Gomez, but I thought it was a good pick. Thanks in advance!

    • Cram It says:
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      @Shawn of the livid: I wouldn’t take Kemp or Santana there, but it looks fine. But 2, it’s also a mock, and getting Fielder on the way back after Miggy doesn’t seem likely in real life.

      • Shawn of the livid says:
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        @Cram It: My thoughts too. I was overall happy with the draft but Kemp and Santana were mistakes. Funny how you jst kind of do weird things when the little timer is ticking down. Getting Miggy at 3 was a surprise but Trout was 1 and someone really wanted Goldy so Miggy I got.

        So far it seems like people are generally avoiding Fielder, so MAYBE getting him on the way back is possible. Thanks for the insight cram

      • Shawn of the livid says:
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        @Cram It: Would you say punt the catcher position to the bottom and take a SP instead of Santana?

        By that point in the draft I had my OF filled out and 3rd and 1st locked up, so skip taking a good catcher (not taking 2nd or SS that early) and opt for some pitching?

        • Cram It says:
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          @Shawn of the livid: I always punt catching until late in the draft, but that’s just me.

    • frankgrimes says:
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      @Shawn of the livid: Good thing it was a mock
      I hate picks 3-8 cept pence of course

      • Shawn of the livid says:
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        @frankgrimes: No love for Gomez? I like him at 3, but I have a feeling Grey is going to tell me not to do that.

        Rios and Choo in texas will be great producers across the board, or at least that was my logic behind the picks. Runs, Hrs, steals, and a very productive lineup, don’t know about “hate” on those picks but thanks for the comment.

    • Ben R says:
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      @Shawn of the livid: This lineup would have problems in the K’s category…. Sonny Gray will help, but he’s not enough… Take anibal sanchez in the 7th instead of Kemp… get your other OF later sometime 14-20… take your pick of Calhoun, DeAza, Fowler…

    • stonepie says:
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      @Shawn of the livid: be careful taking too many guys from one team. as tempting as owning half the rangers sounds, if they run into a pitcher who’s dealing, your team is going to be hurting that day.
      i fell victim to this last year with the tigers.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Sky: @stonepie: this only applies to H2H, which we don’t know if that’s what this was for or not.

  28. booya says:
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    12 team H2H 6X6 w/ OPS
    Who would you grab for a bench bat/3rd OF with this offense:
    C Castro
    1B Votto
    2B Kinsler
    3B Beltre
    SS Rollins
    OF Bruce
    OF Choo
    OF Bourjos
    Util R Zimm

    Options are: B Moss, Crisp, Victorino, Gardner, Brantley, De Aza, Calhoun, Soriano

    Thanks

    • Cram It says:
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      @booya: I vote Victorino.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @booya: Why are you drafting a bench bat there?

  29. djf says:
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    Rizzo or holiday in a keeper.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Gotta go with youth/upside there unless there are extenuating circumstances. Rizzo.

  30. Bumbo says:
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    Last round keeper question: Everth Cabrera vs Taijuan Walker

    10 team 6×6 (5×5 + OPS and K/BB). We do keepers based on where guys were drafted, and each year they get booted up 5 rounds higher if you want to keep them.

    I can keep either of these guys as my last round pick, probably between the 207th and 210th picks depending on draft order.

    Cabrera will definitely go before then in the draft, so if you look at it as a simple ADP question he seems like the answer. But since the later in the draft guys are kept means the longer and cheaper we can hold them, I wonder whether Walker is the better play for the future.

    Thanks for your help!

      • Bumbo says:
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        @Grey: Thanks, Grey! Love this column.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Thanks!

  31. Shibboleth says:
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    I call this post Grey’s delta force.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Shibboleth: Better than Delta Burke, I suppose

  32. FMFBL says:
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    Hi Grey, love these posts. Fun to see the comparisons.

    Abreu question…
    You have him ranked about 50 spots higher than Matt Adams even though you project similar results
    Adams – 25/76/.259/1
    Abreau – 26/88/.268/2

    Are you ranking Abreu so highly due to potential and looking at his projected stats as a conservative number?

    Thanks!

    • Cram It says:
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      @FMFBL: Yes, that’s the basis for the rankings. Players are more (or less) than their projected stats.

    • Cheese says:
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      @FMFBL: plus you get an extra steal!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @FMFBL: Yeah, based on potential, and chance Cards figure out a way to bench Adams

  33. argo says:
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    EE and Headley combination for $46 (EE @ 1b)

    or EE and Hosmer combination for $55 (EE @ 3b)

    Basically Hosmer worth ~9-10 more than Headley, position aside? OBP league

    • Cram It says:
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      @argo: Hosmer

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @argo: Agree with Cram

  34. Marcus says:
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    Can anyone help me decide in a 10 team keeper league with 4 keeper max who should be my fourth? I have

    Cutch
    Chris Davis
    Braun

    And I’m trying to decide between Justin Upton and Wainwright being my fourth. I’m leaning towards Waino cause I have much love for him and because Upton burned me the second half of last season. Help is appreciated.

  35. Heraldo says:
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    Just wanted to acknowledge the witty Title word-play. I tip my hat to you, Grey.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks!

  36. kangaroo hops says:
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    Grey-
    I doesn’t get any easier. But you can control it by picking your poisons carefully. Me, for example? I’ve created my own living hell by working in an Asian Catholic girls school. In their last year, just to cover all the fetishes, their uniform is a stewardess uni. Yikes. So do not go that route. Stick to Fantasy Baseballer Conventions, and you’ll do fine.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha…Good advice!

  37. John says:
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    Who do I want in a dynasty league? Even if I am competing this year: Tim Hudson or Kyle lohse?

    Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Lohse

  38. dude says:
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    Better set of keepers;

    Taillon and A. Garcia

    Ryu and Cook

    Trying to decide if I give up keeping Ryu for Taillon. Doing so would reduce salary and let me keep Garcia over Cook.

    We keep 15 total and my current OF’s are – Harper, J. Upton, Rios, Springer and my current SP’s are Scherzer, A. Sanchez, Gray, and Samardzija.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Taillon

  39. J-FOH says:
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    Stupid F**king MLB. I really hate those c**ksuckers. That new catcher rule is a bunch of Bulls**t. Oh no, Buster Posey gets hurt and we need to change the whole way the game is played because Brian Sabean has a vagina where his brain is suppose to be. That whiney piece of s**t started this campaign and now the umps can have a new way to give the game away. This is more than anything makes me even more entrenched in fantasy now, because the real game is going the way of the NFL and the NBA….pussified and soft. Whats next, do we lose the ability to break up a double play? install big puffy cushions on the outfield walls? can’t go after a pop fly in foul territory?

  40. Shmael says:
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    I feel like the value in these posts is identifying players that the common drafter will over or under rate. Therefore, your argument that you aren’t doing CBS just because its terrible is selling short the value of your over and under rated lists! I am doing several CBS drafts and I’d love to see a comparison like the one above.

    Thanks for all your hard work as usual Gray! You rock.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem, thanks! CBS isn’t happening though, sorry…

      • Shmael says:
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        @Grey: No worries, thanks!

    • Swagger Jackers says:
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      @Shmael: The great thing about posts like this is that there isn’t any magic behind them. Pull up Grey’s list next to the CBS list and start marking down differences in a spreadsheet. I posted a topic in the Razz forums a couple weeks ago before Grey made the official ESPN comparison post and it was surprisingly easy. It probably took 10 minutes find the majority of the big differences.

  41. TualatinTwoStep says:
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    Grey,

    Having some issues with my last keeper spot. 12 teams, 14 keepers, and most of the guys I play with have an almost creepy love for young players, and I pick 10th in the 1st round, so I cannot drop Oscar Tavares and hope to get him back. I am set on the rest of my keepers, so it looks like I have to drop one of the following: Aaron Hill, Josh Donaldson, Matt Carpenter. Based on your rankings I should punt Carpenter, yeah?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You could drop Taveras and not get him back… I’d lose Hill in a keeper…

  42. OaktownSteve says:
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    Heard on the radio the other day from a guy who covers the Angels that Pujols can’t run yet. He’s doing no base running. I’m not entirely sure where the Angels expected him to be at this point in the spring. The sense I got from the beat writer was that they were a little concerned and that he was a little behind, but there wasn’t anything definitive. My read is not really time to panic if you own him but definitely worth monitoring if you haven’t drafted yet.

    I think it’s somewhat uncool to talk about PEDs and link them to players with no positive tests, but as a fantasy player in the back of your mind, you always tally risks versus rewards. So I’ll try to say this as generically as possible. In many places in sports, particularly where testing is vigorous (cycling, track and field, baseball) in the last two decades, whenever an athlete goes to levels that are historically good, best of all time stuff or records that shatter long standing records or on record shattering pace, whenever you see that, guys inevitably get linked to PEDs.

    Point two, there are plenty of examples of guys who have been linked to PEDs who start to experience physical problems as they age that impact their ability to continue to perform. So without cast dispersions on any one player, I will say that one thing that’s in my risk assessment hopper is guys who profile as possible PED users based on observed past pattern that has some consistency.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Guys could get injury prone as they get older without having anything to do with PEDs… Though Pujols did lose his hair at age 14…

      • OaktownSteve says:
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        @Grey:

        I’m not saying PEDs are exclusively responsible for injury proneness with age, but there is a certain pattern that, for me, is undeniably out there. Look no further than Alex Rodriguez. Maybe it’s because I go back to the Ken Caminiti Padre years.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I agree, players that took PEDs are injury prone as they get older… But all players (people) are more injury prone as they get older, so it’s hard to draw the line…

          • OaktownSteve says:
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            @Grey:

            That’s why historically good performance is another indicator. And body type.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I hear ya

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @Grey: pujols is also currently in court suing jack clark for claiming on radio that he “knew” pujols used steriods while at STL. Does that mean Pujols didn’t use? No of course not, but it likely means he knows he didn’t leave any evidence of any type like A-Rod or any of those other guys.

                • Grey

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                  Yeah, usual nonsense

    • Sky

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      That’s a reasonable stance. Though to be fair, I always wondered about Pujols’ actual age as a link to his physical decline. He was in pretty rarified air – and freaking huge – at age 21. If we tack on about 2-3 years, the decline would make sense that way too.

    • J-FOH says:
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      @OaktownSteve: One thing to keep in persepective is that PED’s is a name that covers all kinds of different substances. Just as no two bodies and regiments are the same, also the substances themselves can have very different side effects. To look at Caminiti vs. Bonds, one was out an out of control abuser of alcohol, coke and heroin, and the other had a calculated monitored regiment and a really really huge noggin. I know this is an extreme example, but it just goes to show that many factors play int decline and health.

    • Big Magoo

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      @OaktownSteve: Past PED usage could be causing Pujols’ body to break down, but I agree with Sky’s thinking here. I think there’s a good chance that he’s 2-3 years older than his bio indicates, and he’s been physically declining for several years now. Chronic injuries might be a problem for him until he hangs ‘em up.

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Big Magoo: I have the same foot problem he has in my left foot, some days it hurts like hell, but then you get use to it, I think he was just being a pussy and looking for an excuse to take the year off. Probably addicted to x-box or something like that

        • Big Magoo

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          @J-FOH: Planter fasciitis seems like it would be a real problem for ballplayers though. Really affects the first-step explosiveness, either running out of the batter’s box, going from station-to-station on the basepaths, or breaking for a batted ball in the field. It doesn’t seem to affect him much while standing in the batter’s box. Planting and pushing off of the foot seems to be a big problem though.

      • Oaktownsteve says:
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        @Big Magoo:

        I am not saying anybody definitively used or if they did what the long term effects are. I am just calling attention to an information pattern I find interesting. Risk analysis in this case is not an exact science but something more actuarial

        • Big Magoo

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          @Oaktownsteve: I agree. I think that every situation needs to be viewed independent of each other. It’s especially challenging to make an accurate evaluation when suspected/proven PED users are entering an iffy spot on the age-curve.

        • SteveNZ says:
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          @Oaktownsteve: Stands to reason IMHO. The main benefit of PEDs is that they allow you to push your body harder in training, recover more quickly and then go hard again the next day. That is, putting your body under more pressure than it’s ever been under before.

          That has to catch up with you as you age (or go off them) I’d have thought.

        • Kid A says:
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          @Oaktownsteve: Can we just get to the heart of the matter here and acknowledge that OTS is trying to get a draft bargain on Pujols by down-talking him here.

          Science has shown that one of the best indicators of duplicitous behavior is to ask someone whether they mill their own flour at home. Direct correlation.

          Do YOU, OTS?

          • SteveNZ says:
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            @Kid A: Best comment I’ve read here for a while.

  43. pwire says:
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    Grey, could you do a CBS one as well? Many of us are in CBS leagues.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not gonna do CBS, sorry

    • ashtray says:
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      @pwire: He’s mentioned several times over the last couple weeks that they won’t be doing an article for CBS rankings. Read up above.

  44. Stevie Y says:
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    11 team Roto Dynasty League

    Hanley for Segura and Xander

  45. Stevie Y says:
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    11 team Roto Dynasty League

    Hanley for Segura and Xander

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Segura

  46. ashtray says:
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    What do you think is behind the crappy CBS rankings? I listen to their podcast regularly and they sound pretty reasonable.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Not entirely sure…

  47. OaktownSteve says:
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    Report out of camp that Rosenthal left the mound with a trainer today. No news news item

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Upper quad

      • matt says:
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        He’ll be fine….I hope so as a cardinal fan

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, sounds like he will be

  48. birrrdy! says:
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    Grey, do you think I should offer Stanton for Harper in a 10-team NL only 5×5 keeper auction league? (8 keepers, can keep forever, but use 90% of a magazine price each year) Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sure

  49. CarolinaBBQ says:
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    Grey,
    New to your blog but LOVE it! I am in a 15 team league with 5 keepers. My 1st 4 are Puig $2, Chris Davis $2, Desmond $9, and Marte $14. Who would you keep as #5 between Kershaw $33, Morales $4, or Daniel Murphy $5?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! Kershaw

  50. kevinmac says:
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    Hey Grey. I pretty much drafted the all razzball team in my yahoo 12 team 5×5 h2h league. Just want your input on a preseason trade and pickup. Here is my team.

    C-Lucroy
    1B-Pujols
    2B-Kinsler
    3B-Longoria
    SS-Andrus
    OF-McCutchen
    OF-Bautista
    OF-Bruce
    Util-Gordon
    Util-Butler
    BN-Lowrie
    BN-BJ Upton

    SP-Homer
    SP-Fister
    RP-Balfour
    RP-Hunter
    P-Samardzija
    P-Gray
    P-Masterson
    P-Tillman
    BN-Griffin
    BN-Haren
    BN-Porcello

    Let me know your thoughts on it. I already know I am a little short on steals.

    I’ve been offered Aaron Hill straight up for Sonny Gray. I don’t want to do it but I might need a good 2B especially with Kinsler’s injury history and my 2 util spots. Also some one just dropped Kole Calhoun who I missed out on in the draft. Who do I drop for him if anybody?

    • Grey

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      Team doesn’t look that bad, Lowrie and Upton don’t seem necessary… You also have a ton of SPs… What are you going to do with Hill? You have nowhere to play him… You have no where for Kole either…

      • kevinmac says:
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        @Grey: So pick up relief pitching? I got lowrie for the eligibility at 2B and SS when those guys arent playing/when kinlser gets hurt(he is supposed to run more this year). Was hoping that Upton might surprise this year as a late flyer. I am real high on Kole being the leadoff for the angels. Yahoo pro leagues have a lot of spots to fill. I know smyly, crain, soria are on the waiver…any of them spark your interest and if so for who?

        • Grey

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          It’s February… I wouldn’t do anything right now, unless a closer becomes available…

  51. Coors Canaveral says:
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    Need a little help please, Grey.

    12-team, 5X5 rotisserie, must chose between one of these two keeper scenarios for salary cap reasons.

    A. Trout, Tulo, Hosmer, J Upton, Bogaerts

    B. Trout, Tulo, Hosmer, Reyes, Machado

    • Grey

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      B

  52. oaktownsteve says:
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    Here’s another guy that checks the PED risk boxes and add another: radical physique change over time. Miguel Cabrera. This weird hip thing he’s got nagging him. Just saying.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I wouldn’t say Miggy got buffer and buffer, more buffet and buffet. Poor diet/weight issues cause hip and knee issues too.

    • Grey

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      Radical physique change? Really? I think he just got roly poly… Just seems like a natural talent…

      • Oaktownsteve says:
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        @Grey:

        Go back and look at pictures of him at 3rd with the Marlins. No denying his natural talent. Barry Bonds was the most talented player maybe in history

        • Grey

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          Kinda preaching to the choir, cause as I said in top 10, I’m worried about Miggy… But I don’t think he fits the mold of a PEDs user… He never looked jacked, he just looked pudgy… Could be though, really have no way of knowing…

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Grey: I think trying to compare body development is bulls**t. As our body’s change from teenagers to young adult to full fledged adult it really comes down to genetics and how we take care of ourselves. To judge with the eye test is really unfair because there are too many variables in the body change. Now if we are talking the size of someone’s head getting larger or a spike in the addition of muscle mass over a short period of time, especially in the mid 30’s when testosterone starts to drop then you have a bit of a leg to stand on. I’ve known too many people to count who have done different types of roids and I was actually a little shocked by the differing results and after effects. I may not be a doctor in the real world but I play one here in Razzballl….now turn your head and cough.

            • Grey

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              Ha, nice… Sounded like a disgruntled health teacher in high school… To me, Miggy doesn’t look like he took steroids, doesn’t mean he didn’t…

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: I doubt it, Pujols I believe, but I can’t really say for fear of being sued by him for me exercising my free speech.

                • Grey

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                  I wouldn’t put it past V-Mart, but I wouldn’t say it for fear of the same….

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: see braun I believe…those crafty Jews!

                    • Grey

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                      Shifty, indeed

                • goodfold2 says:
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                  @J-FOH: clark’s not getting sued for saying “he thinks” or “it’s possible” or even “it’s probable” that Pujols used, he said he knew a guy that “knows” who told him Pujols used. that’s a whole different can of legal shit to claim.

      • Oaktownsteve says:
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        @Grey: @Grey:

        Go back and look at pictures of him at 3rd with the Marlins. No denying his natural talent. Barry Bonds was the most talented player maybe in history

    • c0wfunk says:
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      @oaktownsteve: At this point I assume that pretty much everyone in the league was on PEDs at a certain point. So pretty much all of the older guys now are higher risks and are falling apart as expected, especially the sluggers. The biggest takeaway from the mitchell report for me was that it was a league problem, not a player problem.

      • Oaktownsteve says:
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        @c0wfunk:

        Somewhat agree. Not everyone was on. Many were and some still are

        • c0wfunk says:
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          @Oaktownsteve: Not all, probably. But enough to make it the safe assumption.

        • J-FOH says:
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          @Oaktownsteve: @Oaktownsteve: I’m cutting and pasting what I wrote above when you started this discussion, Bonds did have a million dollar swing too bad he had a 2 cent head

          One thing to keep in persepective is that PED’s is a name that covers all kinds of different substances. Just as no two bodies and regiments are the same, also the substances themselves can have very different side effects. To look at Caminiti vs. Bonds, one was out an out of control abuser of alcohol, coke and heroin, and the other had a calculated monitored regiment and a really really huge noggin. I know this is an extreme example, but it just goes to show that many factors play int decline and health.

          • Oaktownsteve says:
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            @J-FOH:

            I agree with the Caminiti comment but also agree that putting any shit in your body that doesn’t belong there comes with some cost

            • J-FOH says:
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              @Oaktownsteve: absolutely, the most interesting thing will be watching these guys age, and from what I understand about roids and HGH it’s all about duration, type, proper cycles and time off between them. We’re talking about baseball players, not rocket scientists.

  53. Peter says:
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    Hey Grey,

    Peter here again. Thought I was set on my keepers until I got a trade offer yesterday that I wanted to run past you. This is a 12-team, 5-man H2H keeper league.

    I have no picks in the 1-3 rounds (my current keepers are: Goldy, Stanton, Puig, Wainwright and Scherzer). He’s offering:

    Adam Jones, his Round 7 (Overall 84) Draft Pick and his Round 9 (Overall 108) Draft Pick for Giancarlo Stanton, my Round 5 (Overall 49) Draft Pick and my Round 8 (Overall 93)
    Draft Pick.

    Thoughts? Is the upgrade from Stanton to Jones enough to give up these two picks as well as long-term because I will be keeping Jones instead of Stanton in the future? Just hate to see Stanton get traded soon and go off for like 55 HRs on a regular basis, plus he’s only 24.

    Thanks in advance for (ongoing) help!
    Peter

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d hold, but it’s fair

      • Peter says:
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        @Grey: Thanks, Grey!!!

        !Hey Grey,

        Peter here again. Thought I was set on my keepers until I got a trade offer yesterday that I wanted to run past you. This is a 12-team, 5-man H2H keeper league.

        I have no picks in the 1-3 rounds (my current keepers are: Goldy, Stanton, Puig, Wainwright and Scherzer). He’s offering:

        Adam Jones, his Round 7 (Overall 84) Draft Pick and his Round 9 (Overall 108) Draft Pick for Giancarlo Stanton, my Round 5 (Overall 49) Draft Pick and my Round 8 (Overall 93)
        Draft Pick.

        Thoughts? Is the upgrade from Stanton to Jones enough to give up these two picks as well as long-term because I will be keeping Jones instead of Stanton in the future? Just hate to see Stanton get traded soon and go off for like 55 HRs on a regular basis, plus he’s only 24.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Answered already

  54. Los Locos says:
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    What do you think or rotowire rankings? i usually pay for this site.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Never seen them

  55. PS says:
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    Hey Grey,
    I’m in a H2H points league this year with weekly lineups. ONLY your top 7 starts of the week count. My plan is to focus on hitters early in draft (first 5 rounds at least unless there is a stupid bargain) but fill out my bench with all SP. Throw as many 2 starts as I can from my guys in a week (and add in a streamer or two) to maximize the number of starts, since only my top 7 count. Does this sound like a good strategy? Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Makes sense

  56. JDW says:
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    I didn’t look up to my father UNTIL he took a crap on the couch.

    Then I was all like “pop, that was super bad ass!” He rolled from the couch onto the floor, mumbling something like “Oh, please God help me…” That really cracked me up. Dude was on a roll. He’s been my hero ever since. He does it a few times a week now. Kills me every time!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA!

  57. JDW says:
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    Grey, I have never bothered you with a selfish keeper question – or any selfish, self-involved question. But after ten years at this I am anguishing over my five keeper selections and really need YOUR guidance. If you find it in your heart please Grey-bi Wan, you’re my only hope. Having a real hard time deciding to keep the more expensive players and enter the draft with less cash. Or keep five cheap-cheap guys and go with a near full wallet and five players – fully understanding the guys I let go will be highly sought after and more expensive to buy back in a 13 team mixed with 25 positions.

    Keep five:

    Darvish – $20
    Jose Fernandez – $18
    Strasburg – $22
    Cobb – $2

    Harper – $23
    Puig – $24
    Billy Hamilton – $1
    Dom. Brown – $1

    Encarnacion – $24
    Hosmer – $12
    Profar – $1
    Machado – $6

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Harper – $23
      Puig – $24
      Billy Hamilton – $1
      Cobb
      Darvish…

      Could go a bunch of different ways, good problem to have…

      • JDW says:
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        @Grey: Thanks for taking the time. You lot really do rule! I’m using your rankings for this year and am grateful for all the time and hard work. Seriously – thank you!! (For the record, my team got crushed last year)

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  58. Fiery Blowholes says:
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    In a H2H points 16 team keeper league which 3 would you keep? They can all be kept in the 15th round.

    Scoring: 1B = 1, 2B = 2, 3B = 3, HR = 4, RBI = 2, K = -1, SB = 2, R = 1, BB = 0.5

    Avisail, Yelich, Bogaerts, Asche, Springer, Sano, Miller, Arcia

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Springer, Avisail, Yelich

      • Fiery Blowholes says:
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        @Grey: Thanks Grey! Appreciate the advice as always.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

    • Prez!! says:
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      @gareth: looks like jacks twitter to me..

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Prez: Ha!

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Prez!!: hey she followed me first, it’s not my fault she does porn for a living

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Hehe

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      ‘I’ve heard his stuff is filthy…and that’s just his twitter faves. Wait till he pitches!’ – Unknown punny person

      • J-FOH says:
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        @Sky: now that’s what i call a sticky situation

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Wonder if his off-season twitter regimen will improve his split-finger

          • J-FOH says:
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            @Sky: his curve might have a little better break to the left

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              They might need a bigger catcher’s mitt for him by the time the season starts at this point.

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Sky: he could help them oil that glove

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  fill in every fold and crease for sure.

                  • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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                    @Sky: might as well just give us the link to the wall to see who’s on it now, s’all i’m saying. Starting to like Carmart more though.

  59. Mike says:
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    Mr Grey!

    I know Im probably not the first to make this request, but would you (or any razzballer for that matter) consider writing a post with your thoughts/strategy for a general points league (I realize each one is different, but maybe something basic).

    I agree that points leagues suck, but this one is my friend’s and I have no choice but to compete and dominate.

    Anyway, thanks for all the great posts! Razzball number one super fun website!

    • Fiery Blowholes says:
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      @Mike: I think I remember reading that he said he would have a post about points leagues later.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem… We have someone doing Points League posts starting this week…

      • Mike says:
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        @Grey: Cheers! Thanks!

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  60. gareth says:
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    How sad was the news about Harold Ramis yesterday :-(
    A true comedy legend.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

      • Oaktownsteve says:
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        @Grey:

        Groundhog Day probably as good a high concept comedy script as you’re gonna find

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, I’ve studied that script more than I care to admit… He didn’t write it, but he fixed it… The original script was dark, and not funny at all…

          • Oaktownsteve says:
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            @Grey:

            Powers right through the second act lag that wrecks a lot of high concept stuff, pacing is absolutely perfect, jokes are funny

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yup… He should’ve got co-writer credit… 2nd act was a bore in the original…

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, read it yesterday… Murray seems like a pickle in general…

                    • Oaktownsteve says:
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                      @Big Magoo:

                      My brother is a driver and he’s had a few run ins with the guy. Let’s say he has some odd sexual proclivities and is an odd guy in general.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Yeah, did see that…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: Ramis early works were all childhood staples.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Meatballs was like the first movie I remember seeing that I shouldn’t have under the guise it was a kids film…

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: Yes it was, I saw Meatballs, Animal House, Caddyshack, and Stripes by the time I was 7. My parents had a pretty open mind, or they forgot how old I was and were only thinking about if it was Ok for my brother to watch, who was 5 years older. Damn as I write this out and think about other things, that it really is the latter. They forgot about me……discovery day at Razztherapy

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Shoot, I’m out of tissues, just use your sleeve, okay?

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: the tears are all gone…..now it’s just puffs of air

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Don’t aspirate, friend!

                  • J-FOH says:
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                    @Grey: BTW, I just found a bunch of your Mt.Baker Vapors at my house, I forgot that a shop owner i know gave me a bunch of free bottles, most of it’s 18 though

                    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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                      @J-FOH: now Grey’s got me wanting to read the earlier, dark, “philosophical” version. this movie sort of could be the microcosm of eternal return (recurrence) of Nietzsche.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      18 is so strong though…

          • gareth says:
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            @Grey: groundhog day is in my top 10 favorite movies list, possibly my favorite.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              ESPN has it ranked 217th for you!

              • J-FOH says:
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                @Grey: HAHAHAHA!!!!

  61. Steve d says:
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    Help Angola! Church

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha

  62. Steve d says:
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    Who gets booted to Siberia? I can only keep 8. On base replaces avg. Freeman $12 Kipnis $12 hosmer $15 pence $7 choo $14 trout $12 (I should win this league) Teheran $9 Kimberl $16 price $19.. The price is wrong bob?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Kimbrel

  63. jon says:
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    Love this website. I play in an auction live draft with total points on CBS. There will be 14 teams this year. The league is very different because of the way it is setup. Money works as follows: First 300 dollars of fantasy money costs 100 real money. Every dollar spent after that is 200 dollars and is dollar for dollar real money up to 500 fantasy money and 300 dollars actual money total. Hope this makes sense. Anyway I guess my question is if you had 500 dollars to spend for a 17 player league consisting of a player at each pos then 3 utility, 5 sp and one rp. Here is how the scoring breaks down:

    BB Walks (Batters) 1 point
    CS Caught Stealing 0 points
    H Hits 1 point
    HP Hit by Pitch 1 point
    HR Home Runs 1 point
    R Runs 1 point
    RBI Runs Batted In 1 point
    SB Stolen Bases 2 points
    TB Total Bases 1 point

    Scoring for Pitching Categories Name Settings
    BS Blown Saves -3 points
    CG Complete Games 5 points
    ER Earned Runs -.5 points
    INN Innings 1 point
    K Strikeouts (Pitcher) 1 point
    L Losses -5 points
    NH No-Hitters 10 points
    QS Quality Starts 10 points
    S Saves 12 points
    SO Shutouts 5 points
    W Wins 5 points

    I guess my questions are as follows:
    How would you break down a team in terms of money spent on each player?
    Where would you spend your money on positional studs and who would they be?
    I usually place every year I play except last year I took nearly last place. My best value last year was Goldy for $32. I stupidly drafted j upton for 95 which was a mistake. I guess I just want a little more strategy to help me out drafting this year. Any info you would like to provide to me on this insane post would be GrEatLY Appreciated!!!!
    BEETEEEDUBBS GREY your mustache makes me tingly inside……lol

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Thanks! I wouldn’t spend more than $40 on any player, and wouldn’t draft more than one of those… I’d aim for a lot of $20 to $30 players… I’d draft saves and steals heavy… Have at least three guys that steal 25+ bases… Also would go for at least 3 closers… Even taking a top one… I’d also draft a few high end starters…

  64. ReleasetheMcCracken says:
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    Is it safe to make an ass out of you and me and say that, when looking at the top 100, you would trade any lower ranked player for any higher ranked player? ie you would trade Stanton (23) for Fielder (7) cost being equal?

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I would trade Stanton for Fielder in a non-keeper…

  65. Jason says:
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    12 team point league. I get to keep 3 of Cliff Lee, Darvish, Adam Jones, Pedroia or David Wright.
    I’m leaning towards the first 3 names mentioned but am shopping Cliff Lee for a pick. What 3 would you keep and if I can unload Lee who would be next in line?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Jones, Darvish, Wright

  66. Alex says:
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    Dynasty league

    Okay to trade Goldy for Bruce and Abreu?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nope

    • frankgrimes says:
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      @Alex: you should be banned from Razzball

  67. the tone ranger says:
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    grey, miggy (1st round) or goldy (4th round) this year. but its a keeper league, so they will both be first rounders next year.

    is it close? which one?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Goldy

  68. JMac says:
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    12 team dynasty- been offered his HanRam for my Andrelton and Taveras.
    Am I crazy to be thinking no? My team (especially OF) is more long term:

    c – Rosario
    c – Gattis
    1b – EE
    2b – Gyorko
    3b – Machado
    ss -Segura
    ci – Hart
    mi – Simmons
    of – Puig
    of – Jennings
    of – De Aza
    of – Reddick
    of – EYJ
    Util – BJ Upton

    Bench – Taveras
    Bench – Moustakas
    Bench – Springer
    Bench – Singleton

    P – F Her
    P – Miller
    P – Cashner
    P – Liriano
    P – Colon
    P – Niese
    P – Paxton
    RP – Feliz
    RP – Frieri
    RP – Hunter
    RP – Melancon
    RP – Marshal

    Thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I’d take Hanley

  69. Maxi says:
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    Hey man….I’m in a 12-team keeper, 6×6 (no BA, SLG, OBP, QS added) league. I ended up winning the consolation playoff last year and was rewarded the 1st round pick of a 25 round snake draft (no auction value yet).

    I’m trying to decide which 5 keepers I should keep. Next to each player is their 2014 keeper ranking. With multiple players at 25th round value, I will have to decide which order they will be placed in for my final picks. Which 5 should I keep out of:

    Tulowitski (1), Cespedes (10), Buchholz (11), Revere (15), Cole (20), Avisail Garcia (25) , Chris Archer (25) , Wilson Ramos (25), Sonny Gray (25), Michael Wacha (25)

    I also have the number 1 pick in the draft and I’m pretty sure there will be an upgrade over Tulo (potentially Cano, McCutchen, Fielder could all be there)…in either case I don’t think I should keep him in order to keep my options open for the 1st pick.

    Appreciate it.

    Re: Marriage – There’s always Venezuela with your boy Avisail!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Haha…True! Cole, Gray, Wacha, Cespedes, Garcia

  70. Ryan says:
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    Hey Grey and others,
    I enjoy the expert and peer dialogues. I am in a H/H Yahoo 10 team keeper league with 10 offensive and 10 pitching categories. I have the following: Trout, Goldy, Harper, Stanton, Beltre, and Jo Fernandez. Who should I pick first in the draft: Reyes, Segura, Bruce, Desmond, Greinke, or Hamels? I will value everyone’s input.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Segura

  71. MB says:
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    If you had MI, 2B, SS to fill in dynasty with lowrie, prado, beltre, starlin & howie, okay to trade dj lemahieu for w peralta? Peralta would be SP No. 9

    thanks!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Sure

  72. Whats your gut feeling on who’s going to put up better Head to Head fantasy points this year Matt Adams , Rizzo or Jose Abreu?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Rizzo

  73. Kid A says:
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    Better landing pad for the uni-browed Franklinstein: Flushing or St. Petersburg. Not for him. For us: the fantasy baseballers.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Metco

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nice, will read later… I downloaded all their albums the other day (I only needed the last two)… Gotta say, liking their last one a lot more than I expected… Baby Phat and Held Down are both solid…

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        Great article, thanks for sharing! Poor De La…

  74. Nightpandas says:
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    Hello,
    Grey,

    Tried to follow your mustachio mantra for this 12 team yahoo mock. Not bad other than RP.
    (Picked first). Solid bats…..

    1. Mike Trout (LAA – OF)
    2. Evan Longoria (TB – 3B)
    3. José Bautista (Tor – OF)
    4. Albert Pujols (LAA – 1B)
    5. Ian Kinsler (Det – 2B)
    6. Alex Cobb (TB – SP)
    7. Elvis Andrus (Tex – SS)
    8. Julio Teherán (Atl – SP)
    9. Matt Moore (TB – SP)
    10. Wilin Rosario (Col – C)
    11. José Abreu (CWS – 1B)
    12. Grant Balfour (TB – RP)
    13. Francisco Liriano (Pit – SP)
    14. Brandon Moss (Oak – 1B,OF)
    15. John Axford (Cle – RP)
    16. Corey Hart (Sea – 1B)
    17. Patrick Corbin (Ari – SP)
    18. Chris Tillman (Bal – SP)
    19. Jesse Crain (Hou – RP)
    20. Rick Porcello (Det – SP)
    21. A.J. Griffin (Oak – SP)
    22. Drew Smyly (Det – RP)
    23. Randall Delgado (Ari – SP)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You should have closers in a 12 team league… The hitting looks excellent along with the starting pitching though… Delgado’s gone too, btw…

  75. The Flayed Man says:
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    Greetings all,

    Yahoo 5×5 12 team Roto

    Would you trade my Bruce/Belt for his Goldschmidt/De Aza?

    I do have Fielder at 1B and Jones/Myers/Garcia in OF.

    Thank you

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

      • The Flayed Man says:
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        Thank you

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          No problem

  76. jjj says:
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    Im in a 13 team 4X4 auction league no (no K’s, no runs) Do I have enough pitching with the following staff
    Cobb, zimmerman, Fister, Cingrani, gray, and hellickson(unfortunately he was a keeper from 2 yrs ago and I’m stuck with him until waiver wire open up)

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, looks fine to start, obviously better once Hellickson’s off your team

  77. Buge Hoobs says:
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    Mr. Gray,

    Sorry, but another Poo-holes question for you:

    Let’s say you have the 3rd pick in a 10 teamer, and you go with AuSchizz, Longo and an OF, say Joey Bats, for your first 3 picks. In Round 4, who would you take (league has two U spots) Pujols, Segura or the Mad Bum?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Segura

  78. Andy says:
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    In a 14 Team H2H Keeper League (Keep Forever with no restrictions)

    Which combo would you rather have Wright/BumG or Longoria/Cobb?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Longo, Cobb…Really tomato-tomahto…

  79. MB says:
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    Who is the Koji handcuff?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Mujica and Tazawa

  80. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    Grey, any thoughts on Brad Peacock?

    Worth a $2 keeper in an AL only dynasty (15 keepers)?

    I know he came up in WAshington and was somewhat of a touted prospect. I also know that he is on the worst team in baseball. But he can strike out 160 right? Maybe 4 era, 1.28 whip?

    Wouldn’t even guestimate the win total, could be like 6…

    thanks.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      He’s around $1 player so $2 is in the ballpark…

  81. Mike

    Mike says:
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    Damn. Pujols 33 difference at Yahoo, 39 at ESPN. The mom down the street who rocks the jogging stroller every morning was able to bounce back from her plantar fasci-whatever…I gotta side with you on Albert.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA, nice

  82. Jon says:
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    Posey+Bumgarner or Hosmer+Teheran in a keep forever?

    • J-FOH says:
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      @Jon: Hosmer side

  83. RoyG says:
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    Hey Grey and others,
    In a 9 team 5×5 26 auction ten keepers. This will be my second year and I am stumped (new to auction values) Here is my team any keeper suggestions:

    Molina, Yadier 3
    Pujols, Albert 33
    Kipnis, Jason 12
    Prado, Martin 10
    Castro, Starlin 33
    Ramirez, Alexei 2
    Crawford, Carl 11
    Jennings, Desmond 5
    Markakis, Nick 7
    Pence, Hunter 11
    Victorino, Shane 18
    Aybar, Erick 9
    Montero, Jesus 7
    Fister, Doug 1
    Gallardo, Yovani 28
    Hudson, Tim 1
    Kennedy, Ian 2
    Lynn, Lance 14
    Minor, Mike 1
    Cahill, Trevor 1

    Suggest away and I appreciate your input

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Molina, Yadier 3
      Pujols, Albert 33
      Kipnis, Jason 12
      Ramirez, Alexei 2
      Crawford, Carl 11
      Jennings, Desmond 5
      Markakis, Nick 7
      Pence, Hunter 11
      Fister, Doug 1
      Minor, Mike 1

      • RoyG says:
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        @Grey:

        Thanks Grey,
        I was unsure with Pujols at $33 with the glut of 1st basemen ( Votto, Fielder, Hosmer, Butler) that will be out there. I appreciate it

  84. james a says:
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    Hey Grey and fellow commenters,

    10 team 5v5 h2h keeper league wondering who to keep for this year, have to choose two players

    already keeping trout in the 11th round, no brainer

    was wondering if I should keep freeman in the 8th or anabel in the 15th?

    Thanks for the input,
    James

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Freeman

  85. goodfold2 says:
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    in that H2H league i just joined where we can only have 5 SP at any time and 7 RP start each day (comish thinks it’s like a real life team) and we have to have 9 players from whatever team we name ourselves (or more) at any time we are likely going to simply name the 9 or more guys pre-draft and get them at their yahoo ADP’s (if round conflict they get moved down). it’ll be anywhere from 12 -16 teams (don’t know yet). we also have 5 DL and 5 NA slots so one could use up part of those 9 slots for prospects of our teams if we want. In this sort of system you told me earlier that I should make sure to get a few top notch RP’s (also a holds league) due to so many spots, and that owning 1-3 great starters is enough since i can stream 1-3 slots with only 60-80 starters total owned at any time. All that being the case i changed my name from STL to TEX. So i’ll for sure be holding
    beltre (13th) round 2
    darvish (14) round 2
    fielder (16th) round 2
    choo (44th) round 4
    rios (49th) round 5
    andrus (83rd) round 7
    these guys will take up slots 2-6 (and i’ll have 1 elite starter)
    others on fence about.
    martin (159th) round 14
    profar (174th) round 15
    feliz (191st) round 16
    should i choose all of these last 3 at those values or fill up NA slots (with 24-25th draft slots) with Gallo/Choice, or could even grab Scheppers or Soria at 24th-25th to handcuff Feliz, esp since we have 7 RP starting each day. Basically is Feliz/Profar/Martin good enough value at their positions in those rounds? Or am i better off at 3rd OF and 2B with others in other rounds?

  86. Chris says:
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    Maybe everybody knows this already and I’m the schmuck who’s behind the curve because I didn’t find the following out until last year. Yahoo O-Ranks change over time. For example, I was playing around with the war room and Yahoo’s rankings and Jay Bruce’s O-Rank was 40. As of 11pm Central on 2/25, Jay Bruce’s O-Rank is 42. I believe the rankings change based on ADP, but I have no empirical evidence to support such a claim.

    Where this really sucks is when autodrafters in a snake draft wind up snagging players they wouldn’t normally get if the rankings didn’t change. For example, last year in an early March draft, Yu Darvish fell to me in the 6th or 7th round of a 10 team, 27 roster spot league. In a late March draft in a similar format, I waited to steal Darvish in the 6th or 7th round again and he wound up getting autopicked in the 4th or 5th round.

    Perhaps this was just me being the schmuck who wasn’t paying attention (most likely), but hopefully this helps somebody.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yeah, I think their o-ranks are constantly changing like you said… Never really sure what their rankings are or their o-ranks or why they’re different…

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Grey: right when you are in the middle of a Yahoo mock (or real) draft it shows their yahoo ADP’s. this is very useful, also you can constantly scroll between yahoo’s ranks/your own to see who’s likely coming up sooner than or later than yours.

  87. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    i know you’ve dealt with this before, but i’m going over the differences between yr rankings for 5X5 and Rudy’s steamer OPS projections. Also the difference between yr’s and pitcher’s steamer things for holds or holds/QS as well could have the same problem. I was in situations of significant differences just cut the difference in half, but doing this would result in things like rosario moving up vast spots (23rd in OPS vs 91st in yours), or harper moving down a lot (10-49). It seems adjusting by half of the difference seems extreme, is any number a good rule (move a third from your’s towards OPS maybe)?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      There’s no set rule, you gotta go with what you feel comfortable with…

      • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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        @Grey: what do you do for your own OPS leagues (assuming you’re in any)

  88. Tracey says:
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    Great stuff as always Grey.
    In a league that does OBP instead of Ave would you rank Choo ahead of Rios?

  89. Claytonio says:
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    Dear Mr Grey, I’m returning to fantasy baseball after a multi-year hiatus, was burnt out but I’m comin’ back like MJ only with skills. I must say reading your posts brings me great joy. No homo.
    12 team league (9×9 stats) with 4 keepers – gimmes are Segura (14th), Jose Fernandez (15) & Puig (19).
    Need to keep one of Rosario (12) or Ortiz (18) – Papi is grandfathered into 1B eligibility in our league (pun intended).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ha, thanks! Ortiz

  90. troy says:
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    so you dont like ellsbury or Carpenter. I’m ok with that but I’m in a keeper league with 15 teams, 5×5 260 budget. would you rather keep carpenter at $4 or ellsbury at $18?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Ellsbury

  91. Yaomiiiing says:
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    What potential round(s) would you take Springer in a 12 team keeper league?

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