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For these pairings, I’m going to be using our 2013 fantasy baseball rankings.  Notably, the top 20 starters for 2013 fantasy baseball, top 40 starters for 2013, top 60 starters for 2013 and the top 80 starters for 2013.  You can just go to our Fantasy Baseball War Room too (due to popular demand, we’ll make a downloadable Excel spreadsheet available later today).  Or the fantasy baseball tiers (compliments to commenter, Drew!).  Okay, now that we have our links and shizz done.  What is a pitcher pairing?  It’s how you plan on putting together a fantasy staff.  It’s a plan of action.  If you have A pitcher, which B, C and D pitcher goes with him?  You should have six starters.  The sixth starter is Matt Harvey or take whoever you want.  I suggest an upside pick.  Matt Harvey comes to mind.  Or Marco Estrada.  Marco Estrada also comes to mind.  I’m going to assume you’re in a 12 team, 5×5 and some variation of 9 Pitchers league.  BTW, if you haven’t done so yet, sign up for a Razzball Commenter League (we need commissioners!).  (NOTE:  What you are about to read is massively confusing.  If it were found scribbled in a notebook, the FBI would be watching me.  If Charles Manson stood up and read this at the next prison Meet N’ Greet, no one would blink an eye.)  Anyway, here’s some pairings for pitching staffs for 2013 fantasy baseball drafts:

TIERS

If your first pitcher is from the tier:  “These guys are the best.  I will enjoy missing out on them.” — This tier is from Verlander to F-Her.  If you draft someone from this tier, you’ll probably lose your league or get lucky with your hitters.  If I do draft one, I wouldn’t take another pitcher until Darvish’s tier, “I’ll grab one of these guys when possible; just not going apeshizz cray cray.”  Then grab a guy in Samardzija’s tier, “These guys are my BFF (Best Fantasy Friends).”  Then two guys from either Parker’s tier, “A bunch of zeroes, and zeroes aren’t a bad thing,” or Kuroda’s tier, “I like them, but if drafting one causes an erection for longer than four hours, see a doctor.”  Then a guy in Estrada’s tier, “I love you, I love you not… I love you!”  Though, if you draft someone in Verlander’s tier, I could also see bypassing the Darvish tier and skipping right to Samardzija’s “These guys are my BFF (Best Fantasy Friends).”  Then you’d take two guys from Samardzija’s tier, then grab two guys from Parker or Kuroda’s tiers and finally Estrada’s tier.  So, you either have something like F-Her, Darvish, Jon Niese, Garza, Kuroda and Estrada or F-Her, Samardzija, Hughes, Minor, Fister and Harvey.  Either of those staffs will probably have 13′s in every pitching category in a 12 team league.

If your first pitcher is from the tier, “Like these guys; might draft one; don’t reach for multiple ones.”: – This tier goes from Greinke to Gio.  I’d pair any of the top 20 starters that come between Greinke and Gio with anyone in Cliff Lee’s tier, “You’re mine and we belong together,” but it’s not mandatory.  In other words, if I have Greinke, I wouldn’t ignore Lee’s tier if they fell to me, but I wouldn’t reach either.  You’ll be fine taking Gio and moving right into the Darvish tier.  But let’s say you start your staff with Greinke and Moore because he falls to you, you should skip right to the Samardzija tier.  Again, if someone from Lee’s tier drops, then you can grab him, but you’re loading up too much on pitching at this point.  So if you have Greinke, Moore, Samardzija, you jump to Parker or Kuroda’s tier and grab two pitchers.  (Yes, this is like a Choose Your Own Adventure.)  So that leaves you with Greinke, Moore, Samardzija, Parker, Beckett, and Fiers.  That’s one great looking staff, or so she said, whoever she is.

Now if you grab Greinke, but you skip Lee’s tier and go straight to Darvish’s tier, then you grab one or two guys in that tier and one or two guys from Samardzija’s tier.  If you grab one from Darvish’s tier, then grab two from Samardzija’s tier and vice versa.  At this point, you should have four starters.  Then grab one from Parker or Kuroda’s tiers then Estrada.  That leaves you with a staff of Greinke, Gallardo, Peavy, Niese, Fister and Harvey.  That’s probably the best staff I’ve ever seen in the entire universe.

If your first pitcher is from the tier, “You’re mine and we belong together.”: – This tier goes from Lee to Chapman.  This is my ideal pairing (which will be as convoluted as everything that came before it.  Anyone that actually reads AND understands this post deserves a gold star.)  Grab your first pitcher from the Lee tier, your next pitcher from the Darvish tier then two pitchers from Samardzija’s tier, one from Kuroda or Parker’s tiers then Estrada.  So you could have Matt Moore, Medlen, Samardzija, Morrow, Beckett and Estrada.  You just won your league and games haven’t even started.  You’re welcome.

Close to ideal (let’s say ideal-ish) is if you draft one pitcher from Lee’s tier, two pitchers from Samardzija’s tier, two from Parker or Kuroda’s tiers and Estrada.  So, that could give you Chapman, Morrow, Ryu, Garza, Milone and Harvey.  Honestly, that staff looks pretty good to me; go buy yourself an ice cream cone and celebrate.

Not ideal but it will do, Pooh (let’s call it ideally Pooh) is if you draft two pitchers from Lee’s tier.  Then skip to Samardzija’s tier and take one, then two from Parker or Kuroda’s tier then Estrada.  So, you could have Lee, Moore, Ryu, Parker, Kennedy and Chris Tillman (or Harvey or Estrada; I like those guys; have you heard?  Have you flocked?  Have you congregated?  Could this post become more confusing?  Short answer: no.  Long answer: nooooooooooo).

TROUBLE AREAS

WHIP Issues – For every pitcher who is projected over a 1.23 WHIP, take one below.  The quicker you do this, the better off you’ll be.  For instance, if you take Darvish, who I have projected for a 1.24, you need to pair him with someone I have projected below a 1.23.  Don’t pair Darvish with Gallardo.  Don’t pair Darvish with Samardzija.  Pair Gallardo with Niese.  Pair him with Kennedy.  Pair him with Minor.  Remember, the further you get into the rankings, the harder it becomes to find lower WHIPs.  In the top 60 starters, there’s only five starters below a 1.23 WHIP.  There’s only 3 pitchers in the top 80.  There’s no one in the top 100.  Sidenote:  WHIP can be helped by closers and MRs… Or hurt by them.

What about “Schoolboy Q and Kendrick Lamar?!” – There’s a whole slew of pitchers I haven’t mentioned after the Estrada tier.  I even like some of them, namely the Bud Norris tier, the “Schoolboy Q and Kendrick Lamar” tier and the Luebke “Hey, you may as well fill your free DL spot until Jed Lowrie hurts himself” tier.  These guys are 7th starters or DL-bound starters that you’re stashing.  I wouldn’t count on any of them for anything.  I like me some Kyle Kendrick as much as the next guy, but are you really starting him every time out in April and risking a huge blow up, which would lead to a crushing April that leaves you in your fantasy baseball basement and a chance to start trading for keepers in May?  You take a flyer on someone like Dylan Bundy, hope he gets the call and if he doesn’t, you decide whether to drop him in redraft leagues.  He’s not your 6th starter.

K ISSUES – For drafters who follow my lead, this shouldn’t be much of an issue.  You’re shooting for around 150/starter.

Overall Pitching Issues – Just about everyone, including yours truly, drops at least one of their starters by May 1st.  Obviously, you want the best team coming out the draft, but it’s a marathon not a sprint.  Starters always come out of nowhere on waivers to become productive.  Always.  Even in deep leagues.

232 Responses

  1. Steve says:
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    Might be giving a little too much credit to the FBI there.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Steve: I meant Redhead Kingpin’s backing group (no, I didn’t)…

      • Steve says:
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        @Grey: Sweet reference! Harks back to a simpler hip-hop time. Apropos of that, a timely reminder that one must listen to Summertime by DJ Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince at least once every summer…

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Been meaning to ask you this, is it weird having summertime in December?

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey: Nah – it’s the only thing I’ve ever known.

            I mean, all the stories you read as a kid have Christmas at wintertime, but even then summer in December is just what I’m used to.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, guess it’s just what you’re used to… So weird thinking about it coming from this hemisphere…

              • Steve says:
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                @Grey: It would be nice to have a winter Christmas sometime – the kids would certainly love it.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Winter’s overrated… I’d take sun all year…Wait, I’m in LA… Yeah, boi….

  2. Random Collmenter says:
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    This is fucking bananas. I love it.

    Do you hide this type of writing from your fiancée until after the wedding? If my girlfriend even caught me reading these indecipherable scrawlings a of a madman we’d have to take a break.

    This post reads like it was originally written in feces on a prison cell wall (or as they say in Britain, a “dirty protest.”).

    What do you think about skipping the first two tiers altogether and drafting like 5 guys from the 3rd tier? Is that crazy talk? Last year the first pitcher I drafted was Gallardo and I ended up okay.

    • costaricanchata says:
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      @Random Collmenter:

      yeah , it’s a little bit crazy .

      here’s why :
      there are only 7 pitchers in the 3rd tier (lee , scherzer , wainwright , zimmerman , latos ,
      moore , & , chapman) .
      in Grey’s top 400 post they occupy positions from #56 (lee) to #69 (chapman) .

      assuming a standard 12 team league , they will have to be selected , if my math is correct ,
      within the 1st 6 or 7 rounds … call it 8 rounds , if you like , to account for drafters who use
      cheat sheets from other ‘perts .

      if your goal is to take 5 SP’s from this tier , you’re not only going to make sacrifices (big time)
      from your team’s offense , but , you’re going to have to majorly over-reach to get them .

      you may as well grab someone from an upper tier , if that’s the case .

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Random Collmenter: And bananas is good! Ha, it’s a dirty protest to normalcy… In a real shallow league it could work…

      • Random Collmenter says:
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        @Grey,

        I just discovered Trevor Bauer’s hip-hop project:

        https://soundcloud.com/consummate4sight
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0XUs1kob68

        Jesus Christ this is maybe the worst music I’ve ever heard. I have instantly gone from liking Bauer as a guy who marches to the beat of his own drum to hating Bauer as a guy who marches to the beat of a terrible drum machine.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          HAHAHA… Oh, man… Is this really him?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Forget my question, it does seem that way…

          • Random Collmenter says:
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            @Grey,

            It’s him! Totally thugged out. Yikes. I wanted to keep listening for some sort of baseball reference but I just couldn’t bear to.

            “My bizarre warm-up routine keeps managers guessin’/
            I’ll long toss a ho if she don’t start undressin’”

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Wow, this is a whole summers’ worth of roundup material for Bauer… My pitchin’ prospect hood is huge, a mountain… When I crave sweets, I get down on that Williams Sonoma chocolate fountain…

              • prezii says:
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                @Grey: grey i showed you this last year!

                @RC, SWEET RYHME!!

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Shizz to all hell, totally forgot… Prezii, you doing the Harlem Shake yet?

                  • Random Collmenter says:
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                    @Prezi,

                    Yeah i figured someone had discovered this before. all i can say is wow. a truly dismayed “wow.”

                    • prezii says:
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                      @Random Collmenter: i know man i was so saddened to see that cuz i really liked the guy… Until that! Haha

  3. letsgobravos says:
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    Great post Grey. After reading this post, I’m considering my draft preparation started. Already can’t wait for the season to start and I don’t have a draft for another month.

  4. Hondo says:
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    Written by Grey after 6 cups of expresso and forgetting to take his airborne contaminate mask to his part time job as a cocaine bagger for the Mexican Cartel

  5. costaricanchata says:
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    ” Either of those staffs will probably have 13?s in every pitching category in a 12 team league.”
    classic line .

  6. bossmanjunior says:
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    For Yahoo, Hyun-Jin Ryu is currently sitting at a 221 adp, next to a Baskin Robbins I assume. If this trend continues, he could potentially be a late draft steal. In addition to a Harvey or Estrada (someone told me you liked those guys), would you try to snag Ryu at the end of every draft as well?

    • centerfieldballhawk says:
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      @bossmanjunior: Ryu tends to be an unknown. Hell, he doesn’t even have his own fangraphs page yet.

      • Jay29 says:
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        @centerfieldballhawk: That’s the case for all the incoming international players. I don’t know why FanGraphs doesn’t create pages for them. I guess, because they don’t have any MLB/MiLB stats to analyze? At the very least, though, I’d like to see FANS projections.

        • I can see why operationally. FanGraphs gets IDs for MLB players from one data source and minor leaguers from their minor league data source. They don’t subscribe (I don’t know anyone in the US that does) to Japanese league data so they aren’t in their reference table. They could just create temporary player pages and then swap in the ID when they get it from their data source but it’d be a pain and it’s not like they have any data to share.

          • Jay29 says:
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            @Rudy Gamble: True. Gotta remind myself that FanGraphs is by and large a player evaluation site, and with no data for a player, he’s not very interesting to them… yet.

  7. BoogieNoogieBunch says:
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    12-team 5×5 (QS instead of W) roto league, 4-player keeper (lose the round they were drafted in)

    Which 2 would you keep to go along with Desmond Jennings (Round 23) and Brett Lawrie (Rounds 26)?
    Josh Hamilton (late Round 3- I will probably have pick 33-36)
    Brandon Phillips (early Round 4)
    Jason Heyward (early Round 6)
    Gio (late Round 9)
    Middlebrooks (Round 27)
    Kris Medlen (Round 27)

  8. Brett says:
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    First off thanks for all the info.
    In a 14 team keeper league and I can either keep Gio Gonzalez or keep my 5th round pick? Didn’t know if the PED thing is something to worry about. With the worry of PED conversation should you reach for your #2 pitcher if keeping Gio. Thanks

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Brett: I’d throw him back…

  9. TheNewGuy says:
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    This is the FBI we’re watching you!

    • JoeC says:
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      @TheNewGuy: “I’m the ODB, as you can see, FBI don’t you be watchin’ me!”

      • TheNewGuy says:
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        @Grey:

        Hehe

  10. TheNewGuy says:
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    Great stuff though, cant wait for that Pitcher Pairing Program (try saying that 100x fast!) to be released.

  11. Powerslave says:
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    Oh Yeah!!!, Rudy’s gonna be on the Roto Experts on Serius/XM with Adam Ronis and Dr. Roto…, School them Rudy!!!!!! Would love to see Grey slug it out in a Pert Leaguewith Ronis, Nando Di Fino and Ray Flowers among others, LOL!!!!!!

  12. MrMojoRisin says:
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    What a week!
    RCL’s open on Monday
    The new and improved War Room yesterday
    Strategy post today!

    If I see the worrisome pitchers post by Rudy tomorrow my head is gonna explode!

    Just in case my head explodes I wanna thank you now for a really great week of posts.
    Thank You Very Much!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @MrMojoRisin: No problem, try to have it explode away from my new shoes…

  13. Ben says:
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    Just wanted to say that the annual pitcher pairings post is probably my favorite of the year. That’s all! Keep up the great work!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Ben: No problem…

  14. Tony says:
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    Grey/Rudy- just checking out the LABR Mixed draft you guys did last night. Nice team. What’s your take on the draft? Or will you be doing a post on that soon?

    A few thoughts I had after browsing over the first few rounds.

    Fangraphs first 3 picks, SOLID, IDK about lawrie, vmart, rizzo to follow it up tho…

    Adam Jones went late, I mean frikking Craig Allen went ahead of him?

    Bryce Harper 14th overall? Is this a long term keeper? I dont get that pick.

    You guys must be really high on Altuve after picking him in the 5th. Or you’re really worried about what was left/your alternative….

    • hey tony -
      we’ll have a post up in the next day or so on the draft. overall, happier about this draft than last year’s. We go back a way with Mike @ FanGraphs (good guy, good player) but I think he’ll be struggling for HR/RBI (one OF projected at 20+) and W/K (6 SPs and several who might be lucky to get 150 IP – Bauer, Cashner, Shelby).

      Agreed on Adam Jones. If he fell a couple more spots, I think we take him over Greinke at #3.

      We picked upsiders J-Up/Goldschmidt at #1/#2 – who are we to talk about picking Harper #14. It’s ballsy. Sky’s the limit for him.

      I’m higher on Altuve than Grey. Not a lot of speed at 2B this year. A pick like this (SBs w/o selling out on R/HR/RBI/AVG) let us avoid a complete SAGNOF play in the OF.

      More in the post…

      • Tony says:
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        @Rudy Gamble: yep the J-up/Goldy picks are all about upside, i like it, gotta gamble some in a large league like that… I’d defly take A-Jones over greinke… too bad he didn’t fall, you’d have 2 monster OF’ers, I guess I dont believe Harper is gonna hit for high avg. Love the kids hustle and game, but i guess time will tell, no one thought trout was going all beast mode last yr either…..then again they weren’t taking trout with their 1st pick. I just want more of a known quantity.

        • Big Magoo says:
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          @Tony: People seem to be chasing the crazy upside with Harper. He was considered the top prospect in the game by many going into last year (and passed only by Trout, according to most). I don’t really think that he’s much of an avg. concern though – despite his high K-rate, he doesn’t make a lot of weak contact, and his xBA last year was .294.

  15. sanfran1966 says:
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    Roto league 5X5 small roster.

    With an inning cap of 1,350, how does that impact drafting the pitcher position? Does this logic/ strategy apply?

      • sanfran1966 says:
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        @Grey:

        As in Tier 1 ???

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yeah, and no later than tier #2 for your first pitcher… You also can’t have much more than 5 SPs going all year… And MRs probably won’t be necessary…

          • sanfran says:
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            @Grey:

            Nice. Will go pitcher on second pick…

  16. Posts like this are what make a normal weekday into a great one. I love the logic behind these choices, and I actually feel like I do understand it (good for me I guess?).

  17. Mr Gray: I like to think of FFB on 12 Team League Yahoo as bay (tidal influenced )sailboat racing… ((ESPN 12 Team L will be a bit more straight forward as more 2 or 3 more RDs are used – thereby shrinking the fun puddle or the bay))..

    Bay sailing is rife with inshore hidden eddies and mixed winds… Often to win, you must be the one to take advantage of these the best…. In sailing with the fleet, you are often hurt from a bad position at the starting buoy when the gun goes off…. I hate it when that happens!!!

    In the fleet, you’ll find the wind is dirtied by other boats and you are all fighting the same tide…. The trick is to take a different tack to find clean or better wind or/and find a useful tide line or go to shore to the known eddying reverse tides where/when possible…

    Best of all…

    You, while everyone is beating hard to the start-line on starboard tack, are taking the easy larboard/port tack with “Heart of Oak” screaming over the speakers… The gun sounds and you go off on your own relaxed way…. Then soon, it’s time for splicing the mainbrace with shrimp sandwiches, assorted gourmet canapes and liberal rations of Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster cocktails all round for all hands…

    Raising your cup, saying to the crew, “What a beautiful day on the bay… Ay, me maties…AAARRRRRrrrrrr” – as the crew finds its good voice with their own lusty version of the ancient bay sailor’s song of “We Are Men of The Bay”…

    Then when the other boats are far enough off to windward, its time to shout, “Make way for power, lads”… “Turn on the motor, lads”… “And for Christ’s Sake, don’t forget to switch over to the underwater exhaust line first this time!!!!”…

    In FBB, Starting Pitching is the larboard tack… 3 top SP in the first 6 rounds is the target… If the clear cut O monsters are there in the first RD, take’m… If not, take the best pitcher… Usually, in the lower first round, I always take pitching…

    You are right about not taking about late pitching pickups… There are plenty of hitting pickups out there to in the same vain…

    That is why, you should not be afraid to trade one of your better pitchers for need in the Miyagi method… The point of the pitching early is to get you out front early and stay in front in pitching – but only by enough to win…

    3 stud starting pitchers can dominate 40% of the board… Add 3 closers… And you are dominating 50% of the board….

    Your Lucky hitting comment could be applied to Lucky pitching pickups as well…

    Thanks for the spread sheets… I hope, they work on Open Office

    So you understand, it is always slow loading your site… Are others having this prob???

    • L-Boogie says:
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      @t moore: Like the guy in my 12-team league who took Kershaw, Verlander, Geinke, and Lester with 4 of his first 6 picks last year and wound up finishing 8th? He didn’t even finish top 5 in pitching.

      • @L-Boogie:

        L boogie: He wasn’t using his motor and snorkel exhaust system is why…

        Nor was he under the influence of Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster cocktails either… A must for Larboard FBB sailboat racing…

        • OaktownSteve says:
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          @t moore:

          Speaking of which, I inserted my Babel fish and this all made a lot more sense, Zaphod.

          3 pitchers in the first 6 rounds is a reef.

          • @OaktownSteve:

            Oakland Steve: A fellow hitchhiker… I guess, you use an A’s towel.. Me too..

            Go A’s

            and be nice, Marvin

            Vain, vein vane got me… HAHAHAHA Didn’t notice it – another spell check arrow to the heart…

            • @t moore:

              O Steve: I kinda like your “reef” approach idea…

              It is a way of focusing your energies in a fast moving selection process for me…

              Not being a techie type… I’m come from the sheet of paper old days of FBB drafting/auction.. An old sea monster… Sometimes, I’ wind up like that rocket that turns into a whale – sometimes, not…

              Besides, Reefing at the right time, is good seamanship and gets you there faster than not having done so…

            • Grey

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              How do we have so many A’s fans? This is the great mystery, Sphinx.

    • Grey

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      @t moore: Nice analogy… Yeah, you can get in front of pitching without taking it early… I think they should work in Open Office….

  18. King Feelsick says:
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    Grey, great stuff as always.
    Question-
    Does this article matter to me if I’m in an H2H/Roto (10-cat) league?

    Also, on the hitting side…
    You’ve mentioned not to pairguys like BJ Upton with say, Granderson. Again, in (10-cat) H2H leagues can I ignore that advice?

  19. Obmij76 says:
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    Hey @Grey: , you’re hard work is truly appreciated. How do you think these pitches pair? I have keepers of Wainwright, Latos and Scherzer. Who should I be looking at in draft for pitching? ERA, WHIP, K, QS, IP, K, SV, L

    • Grey

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      @Obmij76: Really solid staff so far…

  20. Charles says:
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    Matt Harvey flying off the board in 12-14th rounds on ESPN. Looks like Estrada (17-20th) and Fiers (undrafted) are better positioned for an SP6 spot.

    • Grey

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      @Charles: It could be anyone in that tier… Did ESPN rank him high?

  21. PopsToo says:
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    What if a guy from a higher tier is still there when the next tier starts.
    Example–cbs staff mock draft results show Moore drafted in rd. 11 just ahead of Samardzija.

    Is Moore now considered part of Samardzija’s tier?
    Also I seen Ryu, Bailey, Hughes all going just ahead of Estrada,below the Santana tier?

    Would you take the highest ranked guy?

    • Grey

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      @PopsToo: Not in my mind he’s not… This is great value for them… I’d take the highest ranked guy that I have…

  22. Bill_Buckner says:
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    Thanks Gey & Rudy for all of your hard work. I love this site and you guys keep churning out quality entry after quality entry.

    Been doing all of my mocks on Yahoo, and Harvey is routinely going at around pick 125. There’s no way we will be able to draft him as our #6 SP. Grey, do you still like him around that spot in the draft?

    Also, Ryu and Niese are going way later than you have them ranked. Yahoo drafters could practicially just swap either of them with Harvey in your tiers and still wind up with both on their team….

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      @Bill_Buckner:

      Should have read Grey, not Gey, obviously. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that)

    • Dingbat says:
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      @Bill_Buckner: Yup, and the same goes for Estrada, who’s ranked as the #46 pitcher by the Yahoo crew (vs. #60 for Grey). Yahoo’s autodraft rankings have Harvey and Estrada at #149 and #167, respectively, so they’re gone long before you’d look for them if you were strictly going by Grey’s rankings. I like both better than all of the guys in the Johan Santana tier and some of the guys in the Kuroda tier (and even some higher tier guys like Tommy Milone), so I’d be willing to reach for them.

    • Grey

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      @Bill_Buckner: Thanks! Seems pretty early for Harvey… Harvey went around 180 yesterday… That seems about right… But if you know you can get Ryu and Niese much later then flip them…

  23. Justin Cook says:
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    10 teams, 5 keepers (had to keep a pitcher), so i kept your boy (and my boy!) … are we co-fathering the same boy?? whatever, it doesn’t matter … the point is, is pick 68 or 73 reaching for moore or latos?

    • Justin Cook says:
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      @Justin Cook: sorry, got so excited OUR boy, that i forgot to mention it was bumgarner! these things do make me giddy

  24. PublicEnemy#1 says:
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    Rudy on XM 87! So proud. Razzball is all growed up! Nice segment Mr. Gamble.

    • ha. nice. glad it didn’t come off (too) dull :)

  25. Snake Hips says:
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    How about for H2H points leagues? Would you try to get a top arm (Greinke) and then fill in with like someone from the Gio tier and then one from the zimmerman tier? Or try to get as many top pitchers as possible? It’s a 5 keeper so I already have Pujols, Kemp, Harper, Lawrie, Craig for my positionals… Should I start grabbing pitchers out of the gate? I start drafting in 3rd round…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Snake Hips: I’d take Greinke then wait until after the top 20…

  26. Jay29 says:
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    Seems like all the snakers love this post, and with good reason. But what can I take away from this as an auction drafter? My strategy is usually just to spend very little on SPs, only buy the bargains late in the draft, then work the waiver wire. Maybe this year I’ll splurge for one Top 20 guy, I dunno…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jay29: Yeah, the less the better if you can put together a solid team…

  27. Buge Hoobs says:
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    As a long time reader and fan, I am one of those that gets your pitcher pairings and look forward to it every year! Thank you!

    I get it. You use your ideal pairing as the baseline, and if you happen to reach a little early in the front, you can be a little looser in the end (hehe). Always take advantage of value.

    So as not to write their long tier or pitcher names, I give your tiers numbers, so i see your ideal pairing would be 3, 5, 2×7, 8 or 10, and 12. Make sense?

    In a yahoo 10 man std 5×5 redraft league, starting any 7 P, could you tell me your ideal pairing to use as a baseline please? I have a mustache, too!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Buge Hoobs: Thanks! Nice stache! 10 man leagues are even more shallow than what I’m thinking of for this post that means pitching is more abundant…

      • Buge Hoobs says:
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        @Grey: Yes, I understand that 10 man leagues are more shallow? Wait a minute … wouldn’t there be more to go around, thus making it deeper? This is where my Paul Senior starts to curl up at the ends in confusion!!

        So how would you address P’s in a shallow league such as mine? Just tighten up the ends a little? Something like one from Grienke, one or one from Lee, two from Darvish, two from Samardzija.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Nah, there’s more pitching, so I’d wait a little longer… Take my first pitcher later… Maybe the first one in the Lee tier (which is more like Moore or Chapman or one of those guys since Lee will be gone)… Then just load up in the middle pitcher tiers that I like…

          • Buge Hoobs says:
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            @Grey: Thanks! One more for you though. start 7 P with three BN. I figure I’ll draft at least 6 SP and 2 Donkeycorns to start any 7. Being so shallow, what do you think is the best approach to my last two BN slots? Pitchers or bats? 1 and 1?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I’d take arms… Your league is shallow enough that you don’t need bench bats…

  28. mindicohn says:
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    keeper declaration time for 10 team 5×5 roto
    5 of these guys
    cain $21
    Price $18
    Sale $4
    Cano $27
    Trout $22
    s.castro $13
    kimbrel $$11

    i’m leaning toward price,cain,cano,trout and sale…but

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @mindicohn: Cain, Cano, Price, Trout, Castro…

  29. Paddyman says:
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    Hey Grey. The war room yesterday was phenomenal. That thing is just fun. These pairings and tiers are what wins fantasy. I agree with the posters saying that Harvey is going around rd 11 (in Yahoo) but Estrada is closely following in rds 13-15 from what I’ve seen. Niese is hanging around. but so much can change in over a month so I think it’s early to jump to conclusions w ADP. A couple of questions:
    1) 5 keeper league. Leaning towards Keeping Scherzer, Bumgarner & Sale, What rd should I wait on for my next pitcher? I’m thinking waiting on the Samardjzia? tier? Would you wait longer?
    2) What round do you start grabbing relief pitchers? Think I need 3 good ones or 2 good w 2 strong set up guys like pestano, Robertson, benoit.
    Cheers man. This site just keeps on progressing.,

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Paddyman: Thanks! 1) How many teams? 2) I wait until the middle of the donkeycorns. You need 3 in most leagues…

      • Paddyman says:
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        @Grey: Ya. sorry, 12 teams H2H. The pitching categories are: Pitching Appearances (hence the tendency to consider 4 relievers), innings pitched, W, L, K’s, HR’s allowed, Saves, ERA, WHIP. While we at it which of these categories makes least sense to you? I think we might be adjusting them. Thanks for your input!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Paddyman: 1) You’re fine to wait until Samardzija… Homers allowed…

      • Paddyman says:
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        @Grey: Thanks. I was leaning towards getting rid of pitching appearances myself (we also have plate appearances on the hitting side, which is a really hard thing to count on) Scrap homers allowed on the basis that it is double counting against ours guys (as it effects their ratios anyway). right? Right now a guy like Phil Hughes is gonna have to be skipped due to the fact that he serves up so many longballs. Makes drafting even harder with fewer to pick from. Thanks for your insights.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Right… No problem…

  30. Milby says:
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    So with Strasburg ($10), Darvish($0…don’t ask), Chapman ($2) Shields ($18), and Brett Anderson ($0…I said don’t ask!) as keepers, I’d be fine sitting on upside late picks (Estrada, Peralta, Harvey) and DL stashers, right? Basically ignore pitching for a while…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Yup

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Oh, and nice staff of keepers…

      • Milby says:
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        Thanks – and good luck with the engagement…I did it last November and OH MY GOD. GIVE ME MY LIFE BACK. Fiance’s make Andy Dufresne look disorganized.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          HA! Yeah, I think I have my next 500 Saturday afternoons already spoken for…

          • Steve says:
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            @Grey: Going for the long engagement? Get on with it!

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I think I’ll be married by then, but I can get out of the house by myself still… Right? I can, right?

              • Steve says:
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                @Grey: As long as you ask first.

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  That sounds awesome!

  31. marti says:
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    just looked at the LABR draft and I have to say that I think you reached in round 5 with altuve especially with guys like espinosa and kendrick not being taken until rounds 11 and 12 and esepecially with BUM and matt moore still on the board. At first glance, I really like steve gardners draft from USA today. I think I also would have taken matt holiday over greinke and taken a pitcher later.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I agree, I don’t like Altuve that early…

  32. slew says:
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    I posed this keeper question to you back in October, and have been wondering if you still feel the same way? 14 teams, keep 10 no restrictions:
    Votto, Braun, Cargo, Butler, Gallardo, Latos, Jackson A., Choo, Machado, Middlebrooks, Bundy, Miller S., Rizzo.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Votto, Braun, Cargo, Butler, Gallardo, Latos, Jackson A., Choo, Rizzo, Machado… The last two are which wild cards you wanna keep…

  33. Don Drapper says:
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    Good stuff, Grey. Just finished filling my 15 T auction pitching staff (spent $93 of $300 on pitching). 1,700 IP max. I also have Straily “on the farm”. Thoughts? (need Ks, Ws and Saves?):

    P Madison Bumgarner SF
    P Doug Fister DET
    P Jeff Samardzija CHC
    P Tommy Milone OAK
    P Scott Baker CHC
    P John Danks CHW
    P Sean Marshall CIN
    P Vinnie Pestano CLE
    P Casey Janssen TOR
    P Steve Cishek MIA

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I like it until about halfway… Baker, Danks and then a bunch of MRs… It’s okay… I think you could be fine with saves, you might struggle to have enough IP and Ks…

      • Don Drapper says:
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        @Grey:
        Have ~70% of budget for hitters which I am still filling out, but stocked up on Fielder, Stanton, Cepedes, Craig, Ortiz, Andrus, Rollins, Prado (qualifies at MI on CBS and looking for mild power spike in ARI), Freese, …

        Hoping staff does no damage early (Baker to DL), pick up some more pitching in reserve rounds and then trade for another top 20-type SP. Always easier to trade for pitching than hitting. Same reason I choose power over SBs. Easier to find sb on ww than HRs.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      HA! I just asked you about this a few comments ago… Nice! Love the old man one…

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        I would just like to point out that I led you to this sickness either on Monday or yesterday. I’m the original time-waster around here!

        • prezii says:
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          @Sky: sorry sky i wouldnt know, i dont read your articles!! Oh burn? Just kidding i love you still! I tried to read your articles but i just wasnt feelin the whole “royals preview” thing.. haha understandable right?

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            Ha, I didn’t post it in an article (yet!). Completely with you. I barely read my own…I mean, have you seen the typos in those things?

            • prezii says:
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              @Sky: i know then you got guys in the comments callin you an idiot.. dont worry when the season starts i know the kind of knowledge you bring to the round table!

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                My favorite part is when they say ‘your an idiot’. And thanks! Just call me Sir Galahad.

                • prezii says:
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                  @Sky: no prob! I commend for being so swavvy with it tho.. i couldnt do it.. id have to be like “hey fuck you go find another pert to listen to you illiterate bastard!”.. see? This is why i dont have a facebook anymore… I cant help myself from telling someone how it is.. but ur like “ohh im sorry buddy next time ill try harder”. That takes ball depth… Professh!

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    Any and all success on that end can be contributed directly to Grey. Like he always says ‘you lose readers for saying something mean to them, I will F@#$ing cut you…you hear me?’

                    • VinWins

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                      @Sky: Ha!

                    • prezii says:
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                      @Sky: and thats you quoting Grey! but Yeah i know ur always suppose to be nice and professional.. but when its THEIR choice to read and they still have nothing good to say, its hard not to say something back! But like i said, you handle it well. Now go fuck yourself! ;)

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      With pleasure, sir!

      • prezii says:
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        @Grey: i seen one with the horse head hahahaha which then made it official… It must be brought to razzball! How the hell did this start? Seriously like a million different versions..

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sky brought up a good idea… A Razzball writers Harlem Shake…

          • prezii says:
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            @Grey: that is great idea! Kudos sky! Wouldnt it be cool for like a razzball bbq or get together?? But kinda impossible cuz were all over the U S.. and canada! Cant forget them eh?

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              I want a Razzball convention in Vegas once a year in December… Maybe this year…

              • prezii says:
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                @Grey: that would be sick! I dont mind a little drive for that! But that would be the perfect time… Screw flash mob, were shakin! But by that time this will be played out like crazy..

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  I imagine a room full of Razzballers, all with mustaches, with name tags of their commenter names…

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    I’ll show up in a t-shirt that says ‘The Artist Formerly Known As Oregon Nut Cups’ and wearing assless pants a la Prince.

                    • prezii says:
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                      @Sky: my attire consists of a Matt Adams jersey, a horse head, snake skin boots and a Prezii nametag! Soundin pretty awesome, not gonna lie..

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Sounds like you’ve hung with Hunter S. a few times.

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Sky: hey did you get that from me the other day?

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Sky: no those were a gift, besides they look better on you gggrrrrrrrrr!

                      no “the artist formerly known as Oregon Nut Cup” line. i know I wrote that in the comments the other day.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Ah…now that you mentioned it that could be where it came from. You’re starting to slip into my subconscious…

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Sky: thats scary according to me and my therapist

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Tobias Funke?

                    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                      @Sky: oh no, i like to keep my butt between me and my proctologist.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Well as I say, therapist or proctologist…what’s the difference? They’re both poking around in places I don’t expose in public.

                  • prezii says:
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                    @Grey: i didnt even think of the stache! How could i.. i’d be prepared man.. Finger stache, real stache, llama stache.. stache made from my stash… We’d be good to go man!

                    • prezii says:
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                      these replies are confoosing…

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      We can all go to an Art of Shaving store and get groomed… It’ll be magical!

                • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                  @prezii: whats up RCL footballer leaguemate, i havent seen you in the comments yet this year

                  • prezii says:
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                    @Jack Full of Hate: hows it been man! Im just getting back into the whole baseball thing as of this week! Ive been droppin by every now and then to spit a quick verse but nothing hardcore. I feel now is the time to get into full baseball gear with the fellas tho so youll be seeing my obnoxious ass more and more as opening day approaches! Get ur popcorn!

  34. RyuKidding says:
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    Just finished my 5×5 Roto draft – with two keepers from your HP tablet tier, I ended up with:

    Wainwright
    Sale (kept)
    Shields (kept)
    Brett Anderson
    Ryu
    Lynn
    Dempster

    With reserves of:

    Gee
    Kendrick
    Turner

    Any thoughts on areas to look for with first FAs?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Pitching looks decent for the guys you drafted… Don’t love Shields and Sale, but you had those at decent prices I’m guessing…

  35. Steve says:
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    OK, time for some actual FBB. I posted this comment the other day about going relievers-only in the ol’ H2H:

    My thinking is to draft a strong hitting team and then hoover up Closers and setup men, with a view to winning most hitting cats each week, along with Saves, Holds, ERA and WHIP. It helps that we have a 9 IP minimum, which gives me the potential opportunity to bench my pitchers if I’m looking good after hitting the minimum.

    If a reliever blows out, (or in any other appropriate situation), I’ll hit the stream button, though we have a 10 add maximum each week.

    Theoretically it’s pretty sound I think (and appeals as a fun way to play), but it did occur to me that the shallowness of the league might mean that my hitting might not be decisively better than someone who only lightly drafts SPs through the first 10 rounds or so.

    Well, it looks like the league may be going to 14 teams. Does this make my strategy more or less of a good idea? My thinking is that while the pool of relievers will become a little shallower, my chances of having a superior hitting team have perhaps increased a bit as people may feel they need to draft SPs a bit harder in a deeper league.

    Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      You’re not going to get most MRs that matter for this year in the draft because they change every year… Then you’re going to get some weeks where you can’t buy a save or Hold and have a guy give up 4 ER in 1/3 IP and the whole week will be screwed… With that said, it’s worth a shot to go heavy on hitting and take only starters when you get into the Samardzija tier… So maybe a few SPs from after 100 overall… It shouldn’t hurt you overall on hitting because at that point in the draft hitting gets less exciting anyway…

  36. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    if i go to the rankings drop down and select top 100 OF’s or top 100 SP’s i only get to see 81-100. Is this going to get fixed or is this a jokes on you razzballers?

    • Steve says:
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      @Jack Full of Hate: The idea is that you click back through the rankings. There’s a link to the top 80 in the top 100 post, there’s a link to the top 60 in the top 80 post – and so on.

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Steve: that sounds like work….nice new kicks!….I had a pair like that in 1982!

        hey, how do you add a photo to your name?

        • Steve says:
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          @Jack Full of Hate: Go to gravatar.com. All pretty self-explanatory.

  37. skinny malinky says:
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    Grey, I have a general, more philosophical question for you, since you are obviously a philopher-king. After all, any man with a mustache as splendiferous as yours has obviously stared existential dread in the eye and made it his bitch. Anywho…

    I’m in an auction league with 2 keepers. Would you prefer to keep really good players for about the same amount as it would cost to draft them, or keep more marginal players at a better price. For example, I can keep Pujols for his market price, or keep Will Middlebrooks for a buck.

    Thanks for the help, and I can’t flippin’ wait for this season to start.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I tend to go for stars at their market price but each case is it’s own animal…

  38. sul says:
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    For some reason, I am targeting Lester and/or Lincecum in my upcoming draft, which one do I go with?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Neither… Lester…

  39. PopsToo says:
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    I live in Sin City.
    I’ll be waiting for you guys.

    They had a Fantasy Baseball convention a couple of weeks ago but I found out to late to attend.

    Thanks again for all the help Grey and Rudy.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      No problem…

      We’re all staying at PopsToo’s house!

  40. river-z says:
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    I’m in a 30 player league (5 OF)with 7 pitcher slots (none designated for SP or RP – it’s whatever you like). I’m thinking of skipping pitching till about round 11 in order stack up my lineup. Then I’ll pick up loads of decent but not great pitchers from round 11-20 or so. The idea is to put in 3 closers and rotate the other 4 slots according to who is pitching 2x that week. There’s no innings limit.

    Does that work as a winning strategy?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      It could work if you get 4 SPs I like…

      • Cwalker says:
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        @Grey: @Grey: @Grey: Grey – 12 team keeper league. I was offered Samarz…for Shelby Miller, both at $1. Advice?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          I’d hold…

  41. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    I was reading the Prezzi – Sky- You feed and I like the idea of the vegas convention, mainly for a reason to go to Vegas, but that would be great. We can go visit the pawn shop from pawn stars, do things that will make us wish we never met, have Mustache contests and have a live feed for Steve because a New Zealand to Vegas plane ticket will be pricey. and if you need a security detail, I got that covered.

    • prezii says:
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      @Jack Full of Hate: i dunno man that might make steve a little jealous seeing us with our mustaches and razzball pimp cups full of Takka vodka! Vegas and baseball sounds like a pretty good mix to me tho..

      • Steve says:
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        @prezii: I’m jealous of anyone that can grow a decent mustache, doesn’t matter where they are.

        • prezii says:
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          @Steve: Ha! Well played…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @prezii: my stauche makes me look like a cop or a really creepy fantasy baseballer!

  42. papasmurf says:
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    Hey Grey! Happy 2013 to you.

    I just got Samardzija as my number 1 SP in my 16 team keeper league. As Mario might say: “I’ma sa-crooed.”

    It was between him and Morrow and I took him cuz of the easier division.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      To you as well! I like Samardzija… Nice pick…

  43. SwaggerJackers says:
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    @Grey: This is always one of my favorite posts of the year. Not because of the pitcher pairings, but because of the dry compliments you give yourself after each listing of pitchers.

    • Grey

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      Thanks!

  44. Jack Full of Hate says:
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    I under stand your grouping tiers together, kinda like my own format, just alot less technical. all about balancing the era or whip, I try and do the same with BA, if I own a donkey-esque bat then I try and balance him with a guy that hits .300 plus.

    what is the fewest starters we should walk away with on draft day in a 12 team standard?

    • Grey

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      I’d aim for 6…

      • Jack Full of Hate says:
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        @Grey: what about 5 and two solid MR’s. i don’t want to feel committed and miss the boat on a hot arm.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Sure, but you’ll be dropping an MR by the 1st week of the season for a hot SP…Or be dropping an SP for one…

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Grey: I know, genius is what genius does.I have a hard time hoping to get the next Cliff Lee or RA Dickey type. I have never been one to draft a starter before the 7th round, 6th is the earliest I ever have. I follow my rule that it is a lot easier to trade for an arm than it is a bat. If i have enough bats to cover my ass then I can get the arm.

            • Grey

              Grey says:
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              Yeah, there’s plenty of pitching in most leagues that it’s much safer to go bats early and often…

              • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                @Grey: you been watching barter kings? They have all been hour long this season

                • Grey

                  Grey says:
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                  Yeah, I watched a few a couple weeks ago when they had on a marathon… Bah-bam!

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: I go on to craigslist once a week and look at the barter stuff. I want to play barter kings.

                    Have you looked up the real husbands of hollywood yet?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Crap, no I haven’t… When I was looking for a way to propose to Cougar, let’s just say it led me to Craigslist… From there I spent two hours looking at barter stuff… I want to too!

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: two hours! damn….I’m amused by all the people willing to trade tattoos for stuff… I’ve been thinking of trading my impala for the rush.

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Or for tickets to see Rush…

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: My car is worth more than that but I would like to see Neil Pert up close.

                    how do you end up on craigslist trying to figure out how to propose?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      I was looking for a barbershop quartet to come in and wake her up in song… I ended up with a bad singing guitar lesson guy…

                  • Jack Full of Hate says:
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                    @Grey: did you consider the jumbo tron at a ballgame?

                    • Grey

                      Grey says:
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                      Not once…

  45. SwaggerJackers says:
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    @Grey: The more I think about it, the more I dislike the idea of keeping a $4 Allen Craig in my OBP auction league. I’m already keeping an injury prone Tulo and there is a very real possibly both of those bums could be injured for extended periods of time. Would you be mad at a brotha for keeping a $4 Medlen instead?

    The other option is a $4 Rizzo but honestly I’d rather throw Rizzo back out to the masses and pay for Ike Davis in the draft.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Nah, I wouldn’t hold it against you… I’d go Rizzo before Medlen though…

  46. DCR says:
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    @Grey Your keeper thoughts (pick 5)
    Medlen – $10, Kimbrell – $8, Ian Kennedy – $3, Freese – $5, Dunnkey – $6, Now watch me Yuuuuuu – $17, Bumgarner – $21, Molina – $10, Craig – $10

    Not the best options, but decent. Thanks for everything you guys do.
    100

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Medlen – $10, Kimbrell – $8, Ian Kennedy – $3, Bumgarner – $21 and Craig – $10

      • DCR says:
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        @Grey: Thanks. I was thinking Dunn over Bumgarner. Can’t find 40 HRs that easily, that cheap. Sure he will hit .210, but as you know, you don’t have to hit .300 to win.

  47. Matt says:
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    Keeper question:
    12 team keeper league

    I have two solid SPs and 5 solid bats. The last three keeper slots are up in the air for me. I have Headley, Machado, Profar, Bundy, and Wil Myers. The league starts six OFs so I planned on keeping Myers. I’m torn on the others! Any thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Myers, Machado, Headley…

  48. TheShape says:
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    $260 draft fund 5×5 keeper league and I have Moore, Chapman and Sale under lock and key for a total salary of $21. Even with an offense of Santana, Howard, Phillips, Longoria, Altuve, Lawrie, Bautista, Trout, Harper being kept I have ~$100 in draft fund. Under these circumstances is it worth going for a top SP to anchor the staff? King F is likely to be the top option available and will likely go for $69. Or should I target a Wainwright to lead the staff (~$35-40 probably) and one more bat?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      I don’t know how big your league is, but the staff looks fine as it is… There’s no reason to spend a lot on another big SP…

      • TheShape says:
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        @Grey: 13 teams

        • TheShape says:
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          @TheShape: And thanks, for the response and some of the best (and the most entertaining) articles in fantasy.

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Your pitching is strong enough… You don’t need someone like Wainwright…

  49. Steve says:
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    Please tell me it wasn’t the old novelty proposal.

    • Jack Full of Hate says:
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      @Steve: and what would that be?

      • Steve says:
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        @Jack Full of Hate: Going scuba diving and hiding it in a clam, that kind of malarkey.

        Mind you, I am pretty square, so there’s that.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      What’s the old novelty proposal?

      • Grey's Mother says:
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        @Grey: Eh, see above. Ignore me. I’m being an asshole.

        • Jack Full of Hate says:
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          @Grey’s Mother: then you are the nicest asshole i know. The old novelty would be in a glass of champagne or the classic on the jumbo tron at a ball game.

            • Jack Full of Hate says:
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              @Steve: see above schizo

        • Steve says:
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          @Grey’s Mother: What are you still doing here?

          • Jack Full of Hate says:
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            @Steve: are you having a split personality day?

          • Grey

            Grey says:
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            My mom’s all up in Razzball this year…

            • Steve says:
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              @Grey: Like a lot of mothers, she seems to appear at inconvenient times.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                I’m tellin’ ya!

            • Steve says:
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              @Grey: And Craigslist seems a funny place to look for reservations for The French Laundry.

              • Grey

                Grey says:
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                I don’t do laundry… Sideways emoticon…

                • Steve says:
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                  @Grey: Hah. We riffed on this once before if memory serves…

  50. Eddy says:
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    Hey Grey,

    In my keeper league, I’m in a bit of a dilemma. It’s H2H 12-team OBP.

    I’m keeping three top tier SP, Rizzo and CarGo.

    I’m picking 5th overall and Cano, Kemp, Pujols, Votto, McCutch, Fielder and Troy are (in order) among the first guys available. Upton and Wright also available a tad bit later.

    I have a strong feeling that McCutch won’t fall to me. I’m already keeping a 1B, so should I draft Fielder/Votto? Or dip down a bit further and grab another OF like Upton at #5 overall?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      Team has a corner man? Then take Fielder or Votto…

      • Eddy says:
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        @Grey:
        Yeah, my idea last season was to retain Rizzo as my primary 1B going into 2013. But you’re saying I should just move him to the Util spot and take Fielder/Votto, right?

        • Grey

          Grey says:
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          Yup

  51. Collin says:
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    Not sure if you’ll see this as I come from a week in the future, but how does playing in a 16-team league affect the tiers and pairings?

    • Grey

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      You need to make sure you get a top 10 starter… You also should also grab another guy in Lee’s tier and one in Yu and/or Samardzija’s… Then fill out your staff with guys I like…

      • Collin says:
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        @Grey: So you think taking two pitchers in the first five or six rounds is an all right move?

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