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Here’s a post that’s gonna make you wanna slap ya mama and call her Frances Fisher.  The other day I told you how to draft your pitchers for 2012 fantasy baseball.  I laid it out to you nice and simple (if you have a degree in “What The Hell Is Grey Talking About?”  Not a PhD, mind you.  Just a BS.)  Today, we forget all that jabberwocky on the who-ha and get down to business old school-style (which means if you don’t comprehend, I will hit you over the head with a baseball bat signed by Joe Clark.)  What I’m hoping to lay out to you is who do you draft 2nd if you’ve drafted so and so first.  I think it might be helpful to go through pairings for your 5 outfielders, all your middle and corner infielders too.  I’m not sure I’ll have the time or patience to do them though.   We’ll see!  Or not.  Your choice.  For easy reference, the royal we will be using the top 10 2012 fantasy baseball rankings and the top 20 2012 fantasy baseball rankings.  I’m going to assume you’re in a 12 team, 5×5, MI, CI, 5 OF, 1 Utility, 1 Catcher league.  Anyway, here’s some pairings for the first two rounds of 2012 fantasy baseball drafts:

Miguel Cabrera – I’d put him with just about anyone, but another 1st baseman.  The reality of the situation is you want to get someone that is going to give you a few steals, say, 10.  A third baseman would work, but it might be unrealistic to think you’re going to get Longoria.  That leaves you with Wright.  That doesn’t sound too shabby.  Think about how for the last five years prior to 2011 and you would’ve loved to have Wright and Miggy on the same team.  I say, live in the past and do it.  But I’d say “Do it” like Ben Stiller in the Starsky & Hutch remake.  Now it’s totally not ideal to grab Wright if you think Miggy will get 3rd base eligibility.  Right now, I put it at about 85% that he will have 3rd base eligibility within a few weeks of Opening Day, so if you wanna grab an outfielder instead, I’m not hating the game or the playa (that’s not Spanish for beach).  I say grab Andrew McCutchen or Jay Bruce.  Wanna go for a 2nd baseman?  Kinsler might be there.  Swiggy with one of those three looks real nice to me.  Your team would be balanced heading off to the third pick.  Someone like Reyes or Hanley would also work, though they might not be there.  Now, the risk with not grabbing a 3rd baseman is if Miggy starts treating grounders at third like they’re empty beer cans and starts booting them.  Then you may have punted 3rd and Miggy is sent back to first before his 3rd base eligibility kicks in.  Kicks being the operative word.  Really, as long as you avoid a 1st baseman, catcher and a starter while getting some combo of power and speed, you should be fine.  For those of you who are thinking you can grab a 1st baseman and then move Miggy to 3rd two weeks in, you’re screwed if Miggy doesn’t get 3rd base eligibility, even if that possibility is only slim.  And, yes, that’s the only time Miggy and slim will ever be used in a sentence.  In summation, don’t put unnecessary risk on the table in the first two rounds.

Albert Pujols – More or less the same deal as Miggy, obviously without the possible 3rd base eligibility caveat.  I wouldn’t worry about anything other than trying to get a 2nd pick with at least 10 steals, and no 1st baseman, catcher or starter.

Joey Votto – You could pair Votto with Yuniesky Betancourt and you’d be fine.  Votto’s that good.  Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a number one pick next year.  Let’s run away together, Joey!  Wait, what am I saying?  Oh, pairings, right.  Yeah, you don’t want Votto with a 1st baseman, obviously.  He’s similar to Miggy and Pujols.  You want a third baseman, but he can work with just about anything.

Jose Bautista – Hey, something other than a 1st baseman.  Yay, Joey Bats!  Anyone but a 3rd baseman would work.  You really want a 1st baseman.  (This is a common theme.  Leave the first two rounds with a 3rd baseman and a 1st baseman and you’re in better shape than the schmohawk who took Hanley and Cano.)  Also, I worry that Bautista’s average might bottom out a little (to the .265 range), so I’d avoid a guy like Kinsler or Stanton.  You don’t want to leave the 2nd round with a potential combined average of .260.  If you take Baustista and a 3rd baseman because you think Bautista can play your outfield, you’re overthinking.  Think of Bautista as a 3rd baseman.  If during the season you need to put him in the outfield because you picked up a 3rd baseman off waivers, then more power to you.  Right now you don’t put him in the outfield because then you’re only going to draft 4 outfielders and scrounge for a 3rd baseman.  Your 3rd baseman is gonna be crap and you’re gonna end up with Bautista there anyway and you’re gonna be short at outfield.  One thing you can do later on is draft a 3rd baseman at your corner infidel slot.  Then if he does well, you can move him into 3rd, Bautista into your outfield and have the flexibility to grab a 1st baseman or 3rd baseman off waivers for your corner slot.

Evan Longoria – Since Longoria’s speed is a little wonky, I’d have no problem pairing him with a guy like Kemp, McCutchen or Reyes.  Kemp might not be realistic though considering he’s been going first in some mocks.  In my fantasy fantasy world, they’d both be there though.  Same goes for Ellsbury.  I’d even pair Longoria with Pedroia since he usually gives hella at-bats and a decent average. Someone like Kinsler or Stanton aren’t terrible, but you’re putting yourself in a potential average hole that you’ll need to dig out of later.  Just keep in mind, Longoria’s average and steals may need help.

Matt Kemp – Position-wise, he doesn’t go with many.  Stats-wise, he goes with everyone, except a pitcher.  This is probably why he’s going number one overall in mocks.  The problem with that is you draft Kemp and you have one outfielder but still need four more of those and have no infielders.  That guarantees you will leave the 2nd round missing at least two of 2nd base, 1st base or 3rd base.  In the best case scenario, you draft Kemp and Longoria or Wright, so you don’t have to worry about 3rd base.  If you get Kemp and Longoria or Wright, you’ll need to pray your Hosmer, Konerko or other 1st base pick works out.  Otherwise, it might be a long season.  Remember, Hosmer looks great right now, but if he was a sure thing, he’d be going in the first round.  If you can get Kemp and Prince Fielder, then more power to you, though that seems like a pipe dream in the mocks I’ve seen.  Kemp and Kinsler is okay, but then you have no 1st baseman or 3rd baseman and you’ll be up against teams with Miggy, Pujols, Longoria, Prince etc.  I.e., you’ll be doomed.  Kemp plus another outfielder is you throwing in the towel after the first two rounds.

Troy Tulowitzki – This isn’t about pairing, but I don’t see how I’m going to draft Tulo in any league this year.  Just going too early for my taste.  Any the hoo!  If I do, I’d give a lookie-loo to a 1st baseman or 3rd baseman, Sam I am, ma’am.  Since Tulo is a power threat at a normally weaker position, I’d also take a speed/power outfielder (McCutchen, CarGo).  You are dealing with more risk though if you go the speed route with your second pick because if Tulo craps out with another injury and you have, say, McCutchen, you may only get around 35 homers combined from your first two picks while Fielder can produce that by himself.  I’d also be wary of going with CarGo.  Not because of the team thing, but more because of the injury-prone thing. I don’t love the idea of Cano and Tulo.  You’re all middle infield.  Why don’t you just go and marry Adam Everett?  Realistically, if you have to draft Tulo in the top 5 to get him, you’re gonna be looking at Wright, Beltre or Bruce at the end of the 2nd round.  I’d take any of them, but now with Bruce, you will have no corner infidels.  It’s precarious.  (Do you see why I always try to go 1st base or 3rd base in the 1st round?)

Justin Upton – Upton is similar to Kemp.  No outfielders with him.  You really should take a corner man.  Longoria’s great if he’s still there, Fielder will work wonders and clean up after himself!

Prince Fielder – I’d take Longoria with Fielder, I’d also take Fielder with Longoria.  See how that works?  Since Fielder is power first, I’d pair him with Reyes, Hanley or McCutchen too.  He’s a similar pairing to Pujols and Miggy.  Kinsler?  Fine!  Wright?  Great!  Instead of gum, chew bacon!  It all works!

Adrian Gonzalez – He could have a bit more risk than Fielder on the average side, but for our purposes he’s nearly identical to Fielder in projections and pairing.

Robinson Cano – No Kinsler or Pedroia.  Similarly to Tulo, since Cano is a power threat at a normally weaker position, I’d take a speed/power outfielder (McCutchen, CarGo), a 1st baseman or a 3rd baseman.  I’d try to avoid Reyes or Hanley.  You don’t want to have to scrounge together an outfield and two corners leaving the 2nd round.

Jacoby Ellsbury – You don’t want an outfielder.  You can take Reyes, Hanley, Pedroia or Kinsler, but then you might only have 35-40 homers after two picks and some people are getting that with one pick.  If a 1st baseman (Votto, Fielder) is there, then you just scored.  If no one is there without reaching down to David Wright, you might have yourself a Javid Wrightsbury combo player that goes 60/60.  Or you might get a player that hurts his hamstring and complains the fences are still too far, leaving you wanting Justdrian Gonzaton.  (<–And that’s how you make an already confusing post, more confusing!)

101 Responses

  1. Steve says:
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    Hmmmm.

    Hitter pairings don’t feel quite as clear cut as previous years, am I right? All those middle infielders and toolsy OFs forcing their way into the Top 12…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Steve, It’s a bit of a cluster.

  2. Hans says:
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    @grey I don’t agree with if you drafted a 1st basemen don’t grab another. Last year I had the 1st pick and went pujols, followed those picks up with prince and teix. I was in 1st place all year long and won the championship.

    • mic says:
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      @Hans, all the top tiered 1B are going in the first round so that would be impossible to do… unless you’re drafting Tex as your second 1B which would be retarded… and then hosmer/konerko… not so much…

    • Bourne says:
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      @Hans, The sad thing is you are not the first person to read this site just to disagree with the point of this site. (that is to take wisdom for Grey Albright!)

      Hans, lets say you take 3 1B in the first three rounds. I take a 1B, 3B, and OF. Now fast forward to round 10. I take my CI/Util guy and can still get 25-30 HRs from both of them (see Lind, Butler, Howard, Davis, ect). You get a 20 HR guy at 3B with about 20 less runs and RBIs, and you get either a SAGNOF or a 25 HR guy. Since I got McCutchen/Cargo, ect. I have 150/50 in HR/Steals and you have 150/10 or 120/50 in HR/Steals. This would only be counting round 1-3 and 9-10, but if we assume the league is competitive and all other rounds are equal (they won’t because you just threw away your draft), you are losing by either 30 HRs or 40 steals because you drafted all of your CI and Util in the first three rounds while I was balanced with 3B and OF.

      • Tony says:
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        @Bourne, a guy in my league went votto/fielder last yr 1/2, that worked out just fine for him.

        I think it can be done, but in 5 OF’er, middle/corner IF roto leagues i wouldn’t advise it.

        • Steven W says:
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          @Tony, Last year i had 10th pick overall in my snake draft. I snatched up Votto for 1b and then Fielder for Utility. I did not plan on that strategy going in but when Fielder was still available how could i pass up potential 40/120? I was in first all year long, going on to win my 3rd championship in a row.

    • birrrdy! says:
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      @Hans, I gotta agree with you. Especially last year. People who went for a 3B to pair with their top 1B got seriously burned. Guys that waited on 3B could win their leagues with schmoahawks like Ryan Roberts manning the corner. That’s not always going to be the case. I think Wright is majorly due for a big year, so he could be the perfect pairing for these top 1B.

      But if you’re in a league where people are grabbing MIs too quickly, I say definitely take another 1B if they’re in Grey’s top10 overall (which basically means Prince or Adrian). The trade value alone can nab you some of those other positions after the draft. In other words, when you are going to trade for a 3B and an OF or SP, wouldn’t you rather be ponying up Prince Fielder than Adrian Beltre?

      Fact of the matter, though, is that Grey is right. Yes, I guess I just reversed myself. After the top-5 1B are gone the pickings are pretty slim, unless you are counting on Teix to have a big year. There’s no way those guys make it to the second round. I think a lot of Razzballers this year will have a top-5 1B paired with HanRam in the second and Wright in the third.

      I’ve got Hanley and Wright as keepers in my league, so I’ll be right there with y’all. If only I could land a damn elite 1B. Virtually impossible in an NL-only keeper league, especially now that we’ve lost Pujols, Prince and Adrian in the last two years, so I certainly covet getting a real 1B and holding on to him.

  3. MdC says:
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    2 quick questions

    5 keeper league Roto: I have MCab, Hanley, Beltre, Lincecum

    Do I keep Berkman, Romero, Beachy or Gio Gonz as my 5th? All same cost basically.

    With my 1st pick overall do I take Votto, Upton, Tulo or Reyes?

    • chata says:
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      @MdC,

      beachy and j-up

    • BostonEagle5 says:
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      @MdC,

      Gio and Votto.

  4. sillyrabbit says:
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    @Bourne, actually, if you get a chance to take Pujols followed by Prince you can probably throw the pairing plan out the window. Of course, I’ve never played in an eight team league…

  5. Van Hammersly says:
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    Hi everybody! Hi Dr Nick!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Van Hammersly, Ha!

  6. Skeptic says:
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    @grey, what would you say to a votto/prince, Hanley, panda and kemp first 4?

    • Tony says:
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      @Skeptic, 2 team league?

      • Skeptic says:
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        @Tony, Ha no I get kemp as a keeper in the 4th. I’m pretty confident either prince or votto will slip to me at #7 overall. Do you think panda slips past the 4th?

        • Tony says:
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          @Skeptic, past the 4th no, in most mocks i do he’s gone by the end of the 3rd.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Skeptic, It’s fine if you already have them.

  7. HoosierDaddy says:
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    Grey-

    I’m picking at the turn (thanks to your insight last year) in a 12 team 5×5 with CarGo, Lawrie, and Prince as keepers. My leaguemates all usually keep at least one pitcher which leaves top tier offense available at the turn. I feel good about having keepers for these 3 tough to fill spots, and am debating at the turn about going for a speed guy and a power guy, or if I should take an ace and a speed guy, or ace and power. Or should I stop thinking about being an Ace grabber at my age?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @HoosierDaddy, Ace and speed/power…

  8. exactly says:
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    Grey: I have it on good advice that by the time I pick 9th all of the top 6 1Bs will be gone and I’m basically looking at Bautista or Longoria…knowing that I’m going to end up with Konerko/Hosmer/Morse at 1B…who would you recommend pairing in the 2nd and 3rd? Thanks.

    • exactly says:
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      @grey: p.s. 12 team points.

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @exactly, Don’t I say the Bautista or Longoria ones above?

        • exactly says:
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          @Grey, I meant Jorge Bautista and Tony Parker-Longoria-Parker.

  9. Awesomus Maximus

    Awesomus Maximus says:
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    While reading that Manny Bein’ Pregnanny signed with the A’s, I vomited up a little bit of my Honey Bunches of Oats. But I also wondered why he will be serving a 50-game suspension when (if memory serves) this is his second infraction. Isn’t Braun facing the same length suspension for his first infraction? What gives?

    • chata says:
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      @Awesomus Maximus,

      it’s called “double-clown syndrome” .
      because clowny sat out , last year , selig cut him a deal .

    • Eddy says:
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      @Awesomus Maximus,

      The union argued that because he had retired last season, it kind of served as a suspension. Because of that, the league compromised this winter and brought it down to 50.

      • Awesomus Maximus

        Awesomus Maximus says:
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        @Eddy, Maternity leave as time served… what a joke.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Awesomus Maximus, What Eddy said.

  10. jimbo says:
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    I’m at the turn in 12 team redraft league. Is there ever so much distance between two top outfielders and everyone else that you grab the stats and figure it out later? Likely names available at my pick: ells, j upton, carGo, pedroia, hanley…I’m not excited scout fielder but he’d be there. Too crazy to go of/of?

    If I target a combo from castro, andrus, sandoval, lawrie at the 3-4 turn, I’ve got half my infield. I’m okay with a kendrick at 2b and butler at 1b.

    I know there would be a big deficit at 1b, but other teams will have to catch up to my outfield as well.

    • chata says:
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      @jimbo,

      was in exactly that position in my last mock .
      took ellsbury 1st , cargo 2nd .

      thought i would take sandoval and hosmer with my next picks ,
      but hosmer was sniped by the guy in front of me ,
      so i ended up with sandoval and , eventually , cuddyer .

      fwiw , i could have gone sandoval/ryan howard , but am not a believer .
      ended up (20th/21st pick) taking mayberry … who i think will
      out-perform howard , if given the playing time in philly .

      if given the opportunity , i would have gone fielder/ellsbury or j-up
      in a heartbeat .

  11. HMMM says:
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    How do these change in H2H? Are we just looking for multicat contributors in the first 4 rounds?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @HMMM, I’m looking for the best available talent.

  12. The Wickler says:
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    Grey,

    In a ten team H2H points keeper league where we can keep players indefinitely. We only can keep 3 position and 2 pitchers though. Considering that it is a 2 C league, would you use your final keeper spot on Brett Lawrie or Carlos Santana?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @The Wickler, Lawrie

  13. Scott says:
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    So, all things considered; would you rather get:

    Miggy (1st pick) + Wright/McCutchen/Stanton/whoever falls
    or
    A later pick & try to pair Longoria & Fielder together

    Obviously Miggy is #1 for a reason, but would you be better off getting the former or the latter?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Scott, I’d take Miggy

  14. Buge Hoobs says:
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    @Grey

    Trying to put together numbers for “what it takes to win MY league”. Figured out the avg for each category, adding 7.5% (between 5 and 10) to the hitting stats. My problem is that I can’t find what it takes to win each category and therefore cannot calculate how much it takes to move up a point from average. I’d love to punch those numbers in as a baseline goal in the War Room. Any suggestions for someone on the 5 year plan toward earning their Grey degree?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Buge Hoobs, I say what it takes to win each category, don’t I?

      • Buge Hoobs says:
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        @Grey,
        sorry … 10 team

  15. Eddy says:
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    Grey,

    Andrew Friedman mentioned that Moore will not have an IP limit this year. Does this boost him up your rankings? I saw that you had him down for about 150.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Eddy, It should… I need to look at him further.

      • ChillmanCometh says:
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        @Grey & Eddy, Moore pitched over 150 innings last year between AAA and the show last year.

        IMO, IP limits and pitch counts are kind of dumb. Think of all the pitches thrown inbetween innings, warming up, etc… if you really add them up pitchers are regularly throwing 180-210 when you add in the 50 pregame warmup pitches, inbetween inning warmup 5-8 pitches. It’s more about pitches thrown in high pressure situations, moments when pitchers are more likely to overthrow.

        I see Moore’s ceiling as 190 this year, his floor as 170. I see him as a left-handed Verlander with the same kind of electric stuff and feel for pitching, and Verlander threw 186.1 his first full season in the league.

    • Wake Up says:
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      @Eddy, He threw 164 last year, 144 in 2010, so more from moore is certainly possible

      btw, rudy spoke too soon they went for mannys and pedes…

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Eddy, I updated the top 40 starters.

  16. Buge Hoobs says:
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    Grey,

    Um, err, duh! Never mind … I found it. Maybe I’m on the six year plan.

    Now thinking about the pairings for a ten team 5×5. Probably going 1b/3b in 1/2 round, followed by OF and SP in 3rd and 4th, being mindful of any avg pitfalls. What seat do you think you’d want to sit at on draft day? I’m leaning on someplace toward the end.

  17. The Talented Mr. Dope Man says:
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    Completely agree with Votto. I’m hoping I can grab him in all my leagues.

    • frank rizzo says:
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      @The Talented Mr. Dope Man, I see Votto in mocks almost becoming a bargain. He’s dropping a bit in mocks and I’m starting to see him go at around 8th and even 9th sometimes. Cano and Upton go ahead of him sometimes.

  18. CT Old School says:
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    You said Miggy has an 85% chance of getting 3B eligibility. Hanley’s probably at about 95% to be turdbase-eligible by mid-April and 99.99% by May 1st, so pairing him with an outfielder or middle infielder works out pretty well.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @CT Old School, That’s true…

  19. Janice says:
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    1. (11) Evan Longoria 3B
    2. (22) Ian Kinsler 2B
    3. (43) Elvis Andrus SS
    4. (54) Zack Greinke SP
    5. (75) Howie Kendrick 1B,2B,LF
    6. (86) Madison Bumgarner SP
    7. (107) Adam Jones CF
    8. (118) Brian Wilson RP
    9. (139) Brandon Beachy SP
    10. (150) Anibal Sánchez SP
    11. (171) Adam Lind 1B
    12. (182) Kenley Jansen RP
    13. (203) Max Scherzer SP
    14. (214) Jhoulys Chacin SP
    15. (235) David Robertson RP
    16. (246) Salvador Pérez C
    17. (267) Mitch Moreland 1B,RF
    18. (278) Alex Presley LF
    19. (299) Joaquín Benoit RP
    20. (310) Greg Holland RP
    21. (331) Brad Peacock SP
    22. (342) Aaron Hill 2B
    23. (363) José Altuve 2B
    24. (374) Danny Valencia 3B
    25. (395) Eric Thames LF,RF

    16 team Roto yahoo

    Dropped Altuve for Juan Abreu
    Should of took McCutchen or Stanton instead of Kinsler

    C 1B 2B 3B SS LF CF RF UTIL UTIL 5 SP 4 RP 1 P and 5 BENCH

    Holds I only have 5 spots for 6 relievers, I might have to make a trade

    • Grey

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      @Janice, Your team looks solid. Pitching looks great and hitting looks fine if a bit light on speed. Would’ve probably made your team a bit better with Stanton or McCutchen, but Kinsler’s not terrible.

    • JeffFromTallahassee says:
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      @Janice,

      Wow.. I was wandering about how Adam Lind fell to 171, but then I clicked on Yahoo’s rankings and they are an absolute joke.. They have Lawrie #11, Dee Gordon #25, Kipnis #26, Uggla #106 and Lind #206..

      • ChillmanCometh says:
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        @JeffFromTallahassee, Lind is way down on every ranking I’ve seen so far. Was burned by my confidence in him two years ago, stayed away last year and felt good about that… Would love to see him return to where he was, but eh…

  20. frank rizzo says:
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    I think we should know if Detroit needs to make a drastic change at 3rd and will do a 180 with their plans in Spring Training. Everything points to Miggy owning the position, including dicknose Inge lobbying now for the 2B job. I wish he would go away.

    If you get lucky enough to pair Longoria and Prince Fielder in the first 2 rounds, which I doubt from what I’m seeing in mocks, would you be thinking Michael Young or Joe Mauer later to raise the BA a bit?

    Grey – Explain to me why a 1B/3B pairing would be a lot better than maybe 3B and SS to start? If Prince is off the board and I have Longoria, I don’t know if I really want to pair him with Teixeira because I’d be behind the BA 8 ball right away. The SS depth just blows imo and I don’t really like the value I’m seeing. You’ve got to pick Tulo top 5 and I’m seeing Castro go in the 4th with Andrus right behind him. I’m really liking the small potential value of Hanley in the 2nd right now. Is Hanley/Longoria a bad start?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @frank rizzo, Gets two big positions outta of the way off the bat and SS is filled by also-rans on most teams so if you’re missing something at SS, so is everyone.

  21. Janice says:
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    My league is a fielding percentage league, which I have no idea who I should of took.

  22. GoBraves! says:
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    Grey, I have 5th pick and am thinking Bautista or Votto(if he’s there). I have been doing mocks, and was burned by Han-Ram last year, so I am considering going Stanton followed by McCutchen, and maybe grabbing Lawrie in Round 6. Good strategy or am I digging myself a speed/average hole? Maybe my mancrush for Stanton/McClutchen are too great?

    By the way Janice, thanks for posting your whole team on here.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @GoBraves!, Doesn’t matter where she posts her team.

  23. GoBraves! says:
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    Thanks for the feedback, fyi. I love the blog. Also, wondering if drafting Ryan Howard down the road to be my goto 1B is a good move if in fact I go bautista at pick 5 rather than votto (assuming he’s not there).

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @GoBraves!, If he’s around later, I’d take him.

  24. Suck My Wieters says:
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    Grey,

    Do you think Morse can replicate his 2011 season?

    Also, please rank following for 1B position:

    Sandoval
    Konerko
    Youkilis
    Morse
    Hosmer

  25. Wake Up says:
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    My roommate at Grambling was named Justdrian.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Wake Up, Ha!

  26. Jmonte says:
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    OT but anyone having trouble with the site using IE? This is BY FAR the greatest fantasy website on the net and I’m limited to how I can use it when on my iPad…

    Thanks Grey an Co. For all the great work you do!!!

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jmonte, I don’t use IE, what kind of problems are you having?

  27. ashtonkorver says:
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    Struggling with a trade scenario, 5×5 OBP, not AVG

    Pedroia $16/last year of contract for KF Panda, Bruce and Kipnis $40 total, all can be kept for additional years

    Line up without trade – Napoli, Pu, DP, Dee Gordon, JUp, Grandy, Felix, Marcum, Chacin, Morrow, Walden, Farnsworth – $80 for draft
    With trade – Napoli, Pu, Kipnis, Gordon, Panda, JUp, Grandy, Bruce, Felix, Marcum, Chacin, Morrow – $60 for draft

    Love the DP, tons of ABs, great OBP and consistent counting, the upside of Brucey has me very tempted.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @ashtonkorver, Go for it…

  28. Zeke says:
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    Thanks Grey. Your pairing posts are always very useful.

    I have a general question about draft strategy. I’m in this weird, 12 team points league, that seems to be more pitcher heavy than other leagues. Highest point total at the end of the season wins the league. High points for wins, quality starts, innings pitched, etc. The difference in points from Verlander, our league’s best pitcher, and Ellsbury, our best position player was 982 vs 635. There were 18 pitchers that finished higher in total points than Ellsbury, but there was a huge gap between the top 5 or 6 pitchers and the rest of the pack. I would say that there will be 15-20 pitchers off the board by the end of the 4th round. My question is whether I go after pitching earlier than normal, or stay the course and pick up hitting first as you would in other formats?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Zeke, Yeah, I’d grab a top starter earlier than usual.

      • Zeke says:
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        @Grey, Thanks!

  29. Howard says:
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    @Grey In a keeper league (15) I had Upton and Bautista but with the last pick of the first round I took Youuuuk for CI. Anyhoo, my lineup looks like this:
    Napoli
    Berkman
    Espinosa
    A Cabrerra
    Bats
    Youk
    Upton
    Bruce
    C Young
    Bourjos

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Howard, Not sure what your question is.

      • Howard says:
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        @Grey, Just wanted to get your opinion from a roto standpoint. Any glaring deficiencies?

  30. Vulture says:
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    What would be a fair value trade for Ian Kinsler? Has to be an outfielder.

    • Vulture says:
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      @Vulture, Was thinking Bruce / Cruz / Hamilton tier because Stanton and McCutchen are too coveted. Does that sound right??

      • Grey

        Grey says:
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        @Vulture, Sounds right.

  31. Lance Berkman says:
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    Since I qualify at 1st and OF (I had to hold down the fort while Albert was gone) id like to pair myself with myself. In fact, I’d like to field all Lance Berkmans. Big Berks pairings:

    1st: Lance Berkman 1B
    2nd: Lance Berkman OF
    3rd: Lance Berkman OF
    4th: Lance Berkman OF
    5th: Lance Berkman OF
    6th: Lance BerkmanCI
    7th: Lance Berkman OF
    8th: Lance Berkman Util
    9th: best availible

  32. Eric Riptide says:
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    @Grey, I know this is off topic, but I’m doing my normal numbers rundown before I start mocking and I came across the numbers of one Matt Downs, 2B for the Astros. In 199 AB’s last year he had 10 homers, 18 doubles, 41 RBI and slugged .518. He also batted a respectable .276. Obviously, if he were to get 500 AB’s you’ve got second base gold. He’s a righty, so am I left to assume that he only plays against lefty pitching and hits righties like he’s blindfolded? He did have 47 strikeouts as well, which is pretty high. I just wanted to know your opinion on this guy. His numbers seem so intriguing and I’ve never paid the guy much mind. Might he have more playing time on the horizon or is he doomed in a platoon?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Eric Riptide, He’s not in the projected starting lineup as of right now.

  33. Hawk says:
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    New A’s nickname following Manny signing: “Mannyball”

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hawk, Hehe

  34. Jay29 says:
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    @Grey, I’ve got Votto and Ellsbury as keepers. Which elite player here should I target (5×5 w/ OPS not BA)? Bautista and Tulo will most likely be kept by others, too. I’m thinking I need to go for power with Pujols, Miggy, or Fielder, but Longoria would really settle a 3rd position for me (no pun intended!), and be a little cheaper than the others.

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Jay29, Longoria…

  35. ChillmanCometh says:
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    @grey, 10 team, 4 player keeper. I’ve got Miggy, Tulo, R. Zimmerman, and Kershaw and we use our keepers as our picks for Rd 1-4. I pick third overall. I think I’m targeting OF with that first pick (Hamilton or Granderson), and then with the second round I’m thinking either OF again or Hosmer if he’s available. Thoughts?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @ChillmanCometh, You need an outfielder and dealer’s choice. Hosmer is fine, I’d take BAO.

  36. Hustler says:
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    I was stuck with Kinsler too…Have him on the block and received two offers. Both look good but which should I accept of Razzball Gods?

    My OF: BJ Upton, Kendrick (would move to 2B) Stubbs, Werth, Bourjos
    My RP: Madson, Jansen, Robertson, Rauch

    Trade #1
    Giving: Kinsler
    Recieving: Jennings (OF), Venters (RP)

    Trade #2
    Giving: Kinsler / Stubbs
    Recieving: Jay Bruce, Mike Bourn

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @Hustler, 2

  37. nick m. says:
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    How many rounds do you bump up players in a first year keeper (H2H points) league? Guys like Carlos Santana, Buster Posey, Brett Lawrie, Starlin Castro, Matt Moore, Hosmer, Strasburg etc. etc.? Is there a rough bump you give each of the rising starts? And where do you draft Ryan Braun in a keeper format this year?

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @nick m., Braun’s around the 3rd for keepers (assuming 12 teams). I’d bump up young guys on average two rounds… Different players would be bumped differently though.

  38. Grey

    Grey says:
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    ****THERE’S A NEW POST***

  39. TheRealWickler says:
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    Grey,

    If you have Konerko and Hosmer as keepers, what pairing would you target in Rd 1-2? (H2H Points) I’m thinking 3B/OF, but am tempted by a shallow 2B as well.

  40. josh says:
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    Hey,
    So I’m in a keeper league with a CI and MI slot. Its a 9×9 league that counts XBHs, OPS, and K’s.
    I can keep three of the following: Pujols, Tex, Jay Bruce, Brett Lawrie, Holiday, Jennings.
    I figure Pujols is a given, but Im struggling with the other two. Tex and Burce, or Lawrie and Tex, or Bruce and Lawrie… I can’t decide….
    Who would you keep?
    Thanks,
    Josh

  41. DK says:
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    I get to keep 3 players. Listed are the players name and then in parenthesis is the round of draft I would give up in order to keep them. This number was based on last years draft. Which 3 would be the best to keep? H2H 5×5 league C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

    Bautista (2),
    Hosmer (22),
    Konerko (11),
    McCutchen (8),
    Montero (18),
    Weeks (4),
    Jimenez (6)
    and Hanrahan (20)

    I am considering Bautista, Hosmer, and probably McCutchen. McCutchen would offer speed. I appreciate your blog and insights.

    DK

    • Grey

      Grey says:
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      @DK, Thanks for the kind words! Bautista, Hosmer, McCutchen work for me. Take your followups to my newest post.

  42. collards says:
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    Thanks for all of the great info. I’m trying to anticipate my pairings and was hoping for a suggestion or two.

    I’m going into my 2nd season of FBB in a H2H 10 team league. I have to keep 1 of the previous years 1st ten draft picks and 1 of the previous years last 14 draft picks. With each of the 2 keeper picks, I lose the corresponding draft pick in the upcoming draft.

    Last years draft picks under consideration are as follows:

    Rounds 1-10

    1. Ramirez
    2. Wright
    3. Pedroia
    4. J. Upton
    5. McCutchen
    6. C. Kershaw
    9. Konerko

    My thought process was to keep Upton and hope that I can pick up 2 cornermen with my 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.

    Rounds 11-24

    13. M. Montero
    17. G. Sanchez
    18. Y. Molina
    20. I. Desmond
    23. C. Beltran

    Having a tougher time making a decision here. I’d like to get catcher out of the way and I think I get good value with Montero at 13 but Beltran almost seems like a no brainer with only having to sacrifice my 23rd round pick. Desmond is also a consideration.

    Any suggestions will be appreciated.

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